Excruciating Sciatica Pain

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hubby and I definitely have greatly benefited from chiro for many, many, years, although I
did have to give it up when they told me that there was nothing more that they could do for me,
but they did keep me moving on my own for all of those years and at the point when we first started
going to them, 'husband and wife team', hubby's back would go out and he had to crawl to the bathroom
and such when his back would go out and I would have to help him back into bed...after several sessions,
he has never had that particular problem again, and that was over about 20 +yrs. ago...

yes, it is always different strokes for different folks, because we are all of us different in so many ways,
especially according to genetics and body structures...
but, never 'give-up' on trying and learning-moving, -
I have had a broken neck, and have spinal synosis, RA, mitro-valve syndrome, severe nerve damage,
problems from brain damage associated with my broken neck, such painful spurs throughout my body,
plus numbness in the lower part of my body = sometimes I am bed-ridden, and cannot move, sometimes
I can use canes or crutches, and believe it or not, sometimes the Lord lets me walk a mile without falling
to many times with my walking sticks...

point being, today, with my mock-skiing sticks, I walked about a mile, it is possible, it you don't allow
the poisons to dictate what you can do, as I did for way to many years, and just look at how old I am,
this is me, the frilly one, almost as old as Willie, and oh boy, what a powerful Will my Heavenly Father
has blessed me with, not to mention my precious MATE who never tires of taking total care of all of my
needs, but most of all, because we both put our lives and trust and total FAITH in Him...

our LOVE for our Saviour grows stronger, day-by-day...
You're frilly? There goes my mental image. I've been picturing you like Katharine Hepburn in On Golden Pond. All woman, but fierce. Frilly wasn't there. lol
 
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Miri

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My brain can be frilly at times, the older I get the more frilly it gets. Lol

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Would appreciate continued prayer, the pain is there most of the day but not so bad
during the day. I think it's because I move around a lot during the day.

At night though it's really bad and can't sleep for it. There is no comfy position to be found.
The pain is around my hip, buttock radiating down my thigh and shin.

Im typing this after waking up several times in the night and walking around my bedroom.
So please could you continue to pray.

At this rate I'm going to wear a circular tread pattern in my bedroom carpet!



My left leg still is weak due to this nerve pain and I have to be careful going up and down stairs
in case it gives way. I tried running for a bus yesterday and I couldn't my leg muscles
just would not work properly.

I had a strange dream the other night that I was on some stairs and I had something
wrapped around my leg, like thick cardboard or thick rolls of wallpaper wrapped around
preventing me from walking down them.


So maybe you could prayer with me that whatever is causing this pain and trapped
nerve will become unraveled and fall away and for release. I feel that is the way I should
pray at the moment.

Thanks
 
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*hugs*

Praying
 
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Ive never heard of shin pain caused by sciatica so I rang our local 111 health advice service.
They advised me to go to Accident and Emergency, I think they thought I had a blood clot or was
having a stroke due to the leg weakness. It seemed a bit extreme and I was sure it wasn't that!
So in the end I went to a walk in doctor's clinic. They said it was "just" sciatica and gave me more
pain killers. Although not common, sciatica can apparently cause shin nerve pain and the leg
weakness.
Miri, I hope my limited experience can help you.
Deep vein thrombosis can only be diagnosed by an ultrasound scan.

It is possible to get this by just sitting still for long periods of time, and is a major
issue in the elderly and those with weight issues.

My sister in law has had one, and my mother who I care for.
The GP saw her and said it was just a leg pain, but 3 days later, after going into
hospital it was diagnosed.

So if there is a possibility of a clot, you should go to hospital and have it looked
at. The option of not having a thrombosis looked at is fatal, and the upside of
it being eliminated, is it is removed from the list.

I personally was surprised at the fact ultrasounds are the only way to diagnose
this condition, which GP have no ability to do, so I seriously recommend you
having this checked out.

God bless

Peter
 
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Miri

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Miri, I hope my limited experience can help you.
Deep vein thrombosis can only be diagnosed by an ultrasound scan.

It is possible to get this by just sitting still for long periods of time, and is a major
issue in the elderly and those with weight issues.

My sister in law has had one, and my mother who I care for.
The GP saw her and said it was just a leg pain, but 3 days later, after going into
hospital it was diagnosed.

So if there is a possibility of a clot, you should go to hospital and have it looked
at. The option of not having a thrombosis looked at is fatal, and the upside of
it being eliminated, is it is removed from the list.

I personally was surprised at the fact ultrasounds are the only way to diagnose
this condition, which GP have no ability to do, so I seriously recommend you
having this checked out.

God bless

Peter


It doesn't meet the symptoms of DVT, the pain is in my
shin / leg but not the calf muscle. There is no swelling or heat either.
Also the pain improves when I walk around it doesn't get worse. All of this
seems to be the opposite for DVT.

If it doesn't start to improve I'm going back to the Dr to ask about physio and see
if there is any way to get a definitive diagnosis. Or at least rule out other things.

Thanks for your concern though :)
 
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My brain can be frilly at times, the older I get the more frilly it gets. Lol

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Would appreciate continued prayer, the pain is there most of the day but not so bad
during the day. I think it's because I move around a lot during the day.

At night though it's really bad and can't sleep for it. There is no comfy position to be found.
The pain is around my hip, buttock radiating down my thigh and shin.

Im typing this after waking up several times in the night and walking around my bedroom.
So please could you continue to pray.

At this rate I'm going to wear a circular tread pattern in my bedroom carpet!



My left leg still is weak due to this nerve pain and I have to be careful going up and down stairs
in case it gives way. I tried running for a bus yesterday and I couldn't my leg muscles
just would not work properly.

I had a strange dream the other night that I was on some stairs and I had something
wrapped around my leg, like thick cardboard or thick rolls of wallpaper wrapped around
preventing me from walking down them.


So maybe you could prayer with me that whatever is causing this pain and trapped
nerve will become unraveled and fall away and for release. I feel that is the way I should
pray at the moment.

Thanks
Are your steps one or two railing steps? If two, use both for support going down. If one, take the steps with a cane. It's very unnerving to assume a muscle will work properly, only to find out it decides to take a vacation on mid-step.

And the correct way to use a cane if only one leg is acting up is to use it along with that leg but on the opposite side. So, since it's your left leg misbehaving, use the cane on your right side but to match the steps of your left leg.

You also might want to use the cane out of the house for security reasons. Maybe you don't need it at every step, so don't lean on it when you don't need it. But be glad it's right where it's supposed to be when that shocking vacation-plan pops up in mid-step.

The good news is it is getting better. Sciatica comes in three forms -- short-term, mid-term, and forever. That yours didn't get better after two weeks tells me it's not the short-form. That it's getting slowly better says it's not permanent either.

I'd tell you to take a sleeping pill to sleep through nighttime pain, but you can't do that. Would you mind terribly if I pray you meet a nice, skilled massager to date? (Hey, some are legitimate and skilled. I have a brother who is one, but, trust me -- nice guy but you never want to date him. He lived with a caiman and boa constrictor roaming around the house freely for years. Oh, and let their meals -- rats -- roam freely too, so the reptiles could enjoy the hunt. lol)

If you know anyone who can give massages, ask. I've got no skills, but hubby told me my massages helped. I found a huge knot on his upper buttock. I couldn't relax it all the way, but massaging all around it made it shrink some, so it was real. (I once accidentally tickled him, and that lmp disappeared for a few hours. Unfortunately, he hates being tickled.)

I do hope I made you smile at least once, one of the key things that helps me deal with my pain is a good laugh every day.
 

JesusLives

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Don't know if anyone else has suggested it but have you ever thought of getting a massage? I know when I have aches and pains that I get my girl to work on the area and a massage keeps me pretty pain free.

Up until there was no job I was going about once a month and felt like I was at least in my 40's and not 60's that is my reality number.... I had to give it up and my aches and pains are back but when social security payments kick in I plan to go and keep up my monthly massage as it is a preventative for me. Was just a thought.
 
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Miri

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Are your steps one or two railing steps? If two, use both for support going down. If one, take the steps with a cane. It's very unnerving to assume a muscle will work properly, only to find out it decides to take a vacation on mid-step.

And the correct way to use a cane if only one leg is acting up is to use it along with that leg but on the opposite side. So, since it's your left leg misbehaving, use the cane on your right side but to match the steps of your left leg.

You also might want to use the cane out of the house for security reasons. Maybe you don't need it at every step, so don't lean on it when you don't need it. But be glad it's right where it's supposed to be when that shocking vacation-plan pops up in mid-step.

The good news is it is getting better. Sciatica comes in three forms -- short-term, mid-term, and forever. That yours didn't get better after two weeks tells me it's not the short-form. That it's getting slowly better says it's not permanent either.

I'd tell you to take a sleeping pill to sleep through nighttime pain, but you can't do that. Would you mind terribly if I pray you meet a nice, skilled massager to date? (Hey, some are legitimate and skilled. I have a brother who is one, but, trust me -- nice guy but you never want to date him. He lived with a caiman and boa constrictor roaming around the house freely for years. Oh, and let their meals -- rats -- roam freely too, so the reptiles could enjoy the hunt. lol)

If you know anyone who can give massages, ask. I've got no skills, but hubby told me my massages helped. I found a huge knot on his upper buttock. I couldn't relax it all the way, but massaging all around it made it shrink some, so it was real. (I once accidentally tickled him, and that lmp disappeared for a few hours. Unfortunately, he hates being tickled.)

I do hope I made you smile at least once, one of the key things that helps me deal with my pain is a good laugh every day.


Date a massager. The nearest I've got is a TENs machine and a foam roller.
I definately don't want one with snakes and rats roaming around the room,
although one of my cousins kept pet tarantulas.

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I'm kind of pulling myself up and down the stairs at home, we have a stair rail on either side.
There is a lift at work to save me running up and down 5 flights of stairs.

It is strange to find your muscles suddenly won't work. The run for the bus caught me by surprise
and my friend still wants me to train with her to run a marathon!

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Hope you and John are keeping well.
 
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Miri

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Don't know if anyone else has suggested it but have you ever thought of getting a massage? I know when I have aches and pains that I get my girl to work on the area and a massage keeps me pretty pain free.

Up until there was no job I was going about once a month and felt like I was at least in my 40's and not 60's that is my reality number.... I had to give it up and my aches and pains are back but when social security payments kick in I plan to go and keep up my monthly massage as it is a preventative for me. Was just a thought.
I think Lynn just beat you to that but she wants me to marry one. Lol
 
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Miri

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Hi folks. I would appreciate continued prayer.

The pain reached new levels over the weekend, its always worse at night
time due to pressure of leg/hip against mattress/pillow etc. Think of the worst
possible toothache, multiply that by 10 and that's what I got running through
my hip and leg last few nights. Pain killers had as much effect as chocolate buttons. :(

But yet once I'm up and about walking around the pain gradually disappears as the day
progresses.

I suppose I could start sleep walking again as it's the only way I'm gonna get any sleep.
My leg from knee to ankle is numb to the touch and leg still weak and jelly like when walking.

I went to Dr again today (for 5th time) he said he needed to hit me. :eek: He then whacked my
knee with a rubber hammer (at least it wasn't my head!). I didn't even feel it so he tried
again and still nothing and no knee jerk reaction. Aw well, they say where there is no
sense there is no feeling.

Anyway he still feels it's a pinched nerve but has agreed to refer for physio, he seemed to
think this would have a limited effect though and basically said it can take 3-9 months
for a pinched nerve to heal and described it as a kind of peripheral neuropathy.

If it takes that long I think I will end up chewing my leg off.

If anyone wants to swap legs we can try that, mine is nice and tanned so you don't have to
worry about getting a spray tan on that side if that helps. :)
 

blue_ladybug

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Your doctor is an idiot. Pinched nerves don't heal themselves. SOMETHING is keeping it pinched. I never had the weak jelly feeling you described. My whole leg just felt like it was in a vise that just kept getting tighter and more painful. Do you bend your legs at night? Try to keep them straight, the sciatic nerve goes down behind the knee and gets worse if bent in that position all night. What you need are cat scans, MRI's, and x-rays to find what is pinched and why..

I would swap legs with you, but I've been through that agony already and don't care to go through it again.. :(
 
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Miri

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Your doctor is an idiot. Pinched nerves don't heal themselves. SOMETHING is keeping it pinched. I never had the weak jelly feeling you described. My whole leg just felt like it was in a vise that just kept getting tighter and more painful. Do you bend your legs at night? Try to keep them straight, the sciatic nerve goes down behind the knee and gets worse if bent in that position all night. What you need are cat scans, MRI's, and x-rays to find what is pinched and why..

I would swap legs with you, but I've been through that agony already and don't care to go through it again.. :(
I get that feeling of intense pressure as well at top of leg and numb feeling from knee down.
Aw well thx for the offer.
 
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Hi folks. I would appreciate continued prayer.

The pain reached new levels over the weekend, its always worse at night
time due to pressure of leg/hip against mattress/pillow etc. Think of the worst
possible toothache, multiply that by 10 and that's what I got running through
my hip and leg last few nights. Pain killers had as much effect as chocolate buttons. :(

But yet once I'm up and about walking around the pain gradually disappears as the day
progresses.

I suppose I could start sleep walking again as it's the only way I'm gonna get any sleep.
My leg from knee to ankle is numb to the touch and leg still weak and jelly like when walking.

I went to Dr again today (for 5th time) he said he needed to hit me. :eek: He then whacked my
knee with a rubber hammer (at least it wasn't my head!). I didn't even feel it so he tried
again and still nothing and no knee jerk reaction. Aw well, they say where there is no
sense there is no feeling.

Anyway he still feels it's a pinched nerve but has agreed to refer for physio, he seemed to
think this would have a limited effect though and basically said it can take 3-9 months
for a pinched nerve to heal and described it as a kind of peripheral neuropathy.

If it takes that long I think I will end up chewing my leg off.

If anyone wants to swap legs we can try that, mine is nice and tanned so you don't have to
worry about getting a spray tan on that side if that helps. :)
You need to go to a consultant to get it looked at.
It sounds like the sciatic nerve is being damaged in some way.
The problem is nerve damage can be permanent, caused by bone movements or
damage in the spine, tumors etc.

A friend of mine has suddenly lost use of his legs through tumor growth in the spine.

If it is caused by disc degeneration etc. you may have osteo porosis, which needs
drug treatment or lots of other things, like bone spurs that grow after fractures.

Now until this is properly investigated knowing the sciatica nerve is damaged is
not going to help. It is not going to get better by itself.

The downside is pinched nerves have to be left alone, but it could be something
else they could do something about, so it is best investigated. After seeing the
bad side of a lack of investigation by gp's I would always recommend a referral.
 
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Hi folks. I would appreciate continued prayer.

The pain reached new levels over the weekend, its always worse at night
time due to pressure of leg/hip against mattress/pillow etc. Think of the worst
possible toothache, multiply that by 10 and that's what I got running through
my hip and leg last few nights. Pain killers had as much effect as chocolate buttons. :(

But yet once I'm up and about walking around the pain gradually disappears as the day
progresses.

I suppose I could start sleep walking again as it's the only way I'm gonna get any sleep.
My leg from knee to ankle is numb to the touch and leg still weak and jelly like when walking.

I went to Dr again today (for 5th time) he said he needed to hit me. :eek: He then whacked my
knee with a rubber hammer (at least it wasn't my head!). I didn't even feel it so he tried
again and still nothing and no knee jerk reaction. Aw well, they say where there is no
sense there is no feeling.

Anyway he still feels it's a pinched nerve but has agreed to refer for physio, he seemed to
think this would have a limited effect though and basically said it can take 3-9 months
for a pinched nerve to heal and described it as a kind of peripheral neuropathy.

If it takes that long I think I will end up chewing my leg off.

If anyone wants to swap legs we can try that, mine is nice and tanned so you don't have to
worry about getting a spray tan on that side if that helps. :)
They pinched a nerve in my back moving me from the operating table to the gurney in 1999. (Gall bladder surgery, so it was unrelated to the surgery.) I've been disabled ever since. They didn't tell me it was a pinched nerve until 2014, and they knew. It might have been fixed early on. It's not fixable now.

Now, go find a vice, stick a muscle in it, tighten, and wait for the pain to go away. It's not going away until it's loosened.

And now your doctor says it's neuropathy? Probably, but that's not one thing. That's a few things causing one reaction (that lack of feeling, or ants under your skin feeling in your lower leg is neuropathy.)

I agree with Ladybug. Your doctor is an idiot. Can you find another one?
 
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I am very blessed to have a husband to massage me at any time, he never says or hints
that I am a bother, I strive to be like him in his amazing, unselfish manners...
he is also a self-taught Herbalist, and it is amazing in how the Holy Spirit has taught him
how to mix certain herbs and spices and other mixtures for inflammation, etc..
also we have mentioned Jethro Klosss, 'Back to Eden', so many natural healing remedies
from a proclaiming Christian...many old Bible Ways...

also, as I have said before, T-tree oil is an amazing natural medicine, for pain relief by rubbing,
and for sores, bites, mouth, just about anything, but it can burn if over used...I have used it to burn
off an 'sun-scab' and a flesh-eating bacteria that I got on my wrist from working in the garden,
by soaking a pad in the oil and changing it until the bacteria was killed...it wasn't easy, but
definitely worth it...the bacteria was from an animal's waste in the soil, we have a lot of
critters where we live...

also, like Blue' said, try and keep your limbs straight, it helps a lot and if you can lay on your
stomach for a while, it will bring a little relief...

I'm off of prescribed 'pain-KILLERS', they were literally KILLING me and keeping me from even
desiring to get up and get going anywhere and they were making me sicker in several ways...

don't ever give-up, rest in The Lord and He will see you through to where He wants you to be,
His Love can lift us up above anything in this fallen-world...
use the Faith that you have been given and Christ will give you more, He has never once failed me,
I was the failer in my past willful disobedience, but no more, He is FIRST now, and with this choice i
made, there is nothing that can defeat me or you, but He insists on FIRST PLACE in our lives...
 
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Miri

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Thanks everyone for replying.:)

Im not bothering with the pain killers now they were not working anyway so I
didnt ask for any more.

Last year (I think it might have been with all the walking back and forth to hospital
to visit my aunt when the buses were bad), I had a problem with one of my toes
on the other leg. The symptoms were similar, i.e. tingling, numb etc. Only there was
no obvious reason, I hadn't injured myself nothing else hurt etc. My doctor said
then it was likely to be a pinch nerve somewhere but it could by anywhere from
my back, leg or foot. He said then it would heal itself and it did, just took 7 months.

My leg is more of a concern. So I've asked to be referred for physio even though he
seemed doubtful it would work. The physios here can also diagnose and make referrals
if necessary if physio doesn't improve things. So hopefully it's a step in the right direction.

From what I can gather X-rays and scans would not really pick up a pinched or squeezed
nerve. Only perhaps the possible cause of it - which was more than likely due to my
back going (I pulled it 3 times) that's 95% ok now.

I have actually seen 3 different GPs (5 visits in all) they all say the same thing. So will
see how this physio goes when I get an appointment, I hope to be healed soon.
I know God can do this for me. I really do think there is a spiritual element to all this.
I have a good friend who has also started with a hip problem - bursities. Just as we
both are looking at getting involved with something at church and a third person who
also wants to get involved has started with a foot problem! How uncanny is that.
 
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Ariel82

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Will pray Miri.

MRI will pick up a pinched nerve I think, but not sure how they would treat it if they do find it.
 
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Miri

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Hi just thought I would provide an update.

Thanks everyone for your prayers I have also had people at church pray for me.

A real breakthrough seemed to come about 2 weeks ago, all of the numbness in my lower
leg disappeared and my lower leg is now about 99% normal.

The muscles in my upper leg are getting back to normal again as well, I still have
some weakness and can't run for a bus yet. But I would say on a scale of 1-10 it's
about a 3 (it was 11 before!).

I also haven't needed any pain killers for the last 2 weeks.

I got my physio appointment through but it's mid December, praying I will be fully healed
by then and will be able to cancel before it's due.

Thanks guys. I was in so much pain I honestly didn't think it would ever stop.
But praise God it did!
x
 
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Miri

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Oh the other thing, I've been back to work since 20.9.16 I was still in a lot of
pain when I went back, but I felt I had no option but to go back before I was ready
due to the pressure I was getting from work (that's the civil service for ya).

When I went back my manager said I would no longer have to attend a disciplinary
hearing for being off sick, but then later she changed her mind and said I would need
to attend a disciplinary after all as I had been off more than 21 days, so I might as
well have stayed off work a bit longer, it would have made no difference. The fact that
I went back early to try to be a decent employee, made no difference whatsoever!

Anyway it still hasn't been arranged yet.

I don't think they have forgotten about it, things are just too busy at work at the
moment to arrange it. Maybe you can pray they will just let the matter drop as I'm
sure there must be some sort of maximum time frame allowed in such cases for them
to hold it. I don't see how they could justify holding a disciplinary meeting for sickness
which happened several weeks ago, that would be just so unfair to keep a person
dangling like that not knowing what was going to happen.

Thanks
 
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Oh the other thing, I've been back to work since 20.9.16 I was still in a lot of
pain when I went back, but I felt I had no option but to go back before I was ready
due to the pressure I was getting from work (that's the civil service for ya).

When I went back my manager said I would no longer have to attend a disciplinary
hearing for being off sick, but then later she changed her mind and said I would need
to attend a disciplinary after all as I had been off more than 21 days, so I might as
well have stayed off work a bit longer, it would have made no difference. The fact that
I went back early to try to be a decent employee, made no difference whatsoever!

Anyway it still hasn't been arranged yet.

I don't think they have forgotten about it, things are just too busy at work at the
moment to arrange it. Maybe you can pray they will just let the matter drop as I'm
sure there must be some sort of maximum time frame allowed in such cases for them
to hold it. I don't see how they could justify holding a disciplinary meeting for sickness
which happened several weeks ago, that would be just so unfair to keep a person
dangling like that not knowing what was going to happen.

Thanks
Hi Miri,

You work for the civil service, the total rules oriented culture, so there is no sense of fair,
just rules and how much trouble each manager gets in for pushing the rules.

One way to get ahead of the game is to look the rules up and see what the boundaries are.
The sad thing is some people have major health crisises which any organisation has to deal
with over time, that costs money etc. that has to be accounted for. It is always a hard
balance to take, as it falls into the insurance area of risk and commitment to employees.

All I know is I am grateful for any blessing the Lord brings, and He does work out things to
His glory, so Amen. It is always hard to rejoice in all things, but I am trying to see what is
as it was going be be, and then how the Lord bring blessing into the situation. I always find
it hard to see the eternal perspective, over illness, suffering and love work out.

In our house group we have a teacher who is brilliant at their job, but medical problems are
making them unable to work for months to years.
Another brother, in his 80's now has terminal cancer that has spread.
A third sister has had cancer, treatment, and seems free at the moment.

And we were talking 6 months ago about believing God for healing. That is tough, and tugs at
the limitations of knowledge, faith and love for all these good people. But each day is a blessing,
so Amen to the fact we can write and rejoice with our families and friends today.