Prayer.. cuz suicide is on my mind..

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wanting2believe

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thank you shekaniah.. If I believe in God then I must believe in angels and spirits, and satan and other beings..
but these are not spirits.. these are my feelings and doubt and questions that never are answered.. my mind is tired.. not because not being well but because I tried to just blindly believe but I need substance to feed.. cuz his words should be food but then they are less of an appetizer .. all this faith and all this word and all this belief is not doing anything.. so if nothing happens.. then I just will give up.. not on God cuz God will be God.. and I will be a man.. a different man then all of you.. my mentality is not like yours.. I need more then just pretend and words.. but I thank you maybe all this is vain.. maybe your prayers are in vain..
 
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shekaniah

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I have to sign off now...
Talk to you later...
Shekaniah
 

pickles

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Wanting2believe, sometimes one has to hold on in faith when there is nothing to hold onto.
For true faith is not in what is seen, but what is unseen.
I know the darkness and emptyness you speak to, it came after me for several years also.
I cried out time and time again, and yet, there was no answer.
I came understand after a time that it was because I was looking to self, rather than Jesus.
Jesus says, keep your eyes on me, and sometimes this means believing when there is nothing to see, when hope seems to far away to grasp or even think of.
But hope is in that which is unseen, and I do see that seed of hope in your words, simply because you asked others here to see your suffering and deep pain.
I do see the great depth of despair and sorrow you are going through, because I have known it also, and know that it is the theif, that seeks to steal Gods loving gift of Jesus from you, Keep your eyes on Jesus, and He will not let the theif take you from his hand.
The struggle you know right now may seem overwhlming and defeating, but it is not! :)
Your pain I know is great right now, but hold on to the hope of Jesus, and His powerful presance in your life.
And yes, it is worth holding on in faith for.
I did not know it at the time, but Jesus had great works ahead for me, (the meaning of great works is that one will live, know and love Our Lord Jesus! :))
So do not let the theif steal the greatworks and love Jesus has for you.

Repeat this with me now and every time you begin to feel the darkness near.
In Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh, I bind and command any and every spirit of depression, despair, defeat, and blindness to leave me now, in Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh I command these spirits to return to the bowels of the earth where they belong, never to bother me or any other person again. In Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh I command this.
For the power and salvation of God's love is with me in Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh, the protective power of the Holy Spirit covers me and surrounds me, keeping me unto Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh.
I praise you father in heaven for your love, I praise you Lord Jesus for your salvation and grace given, I praise you Holy Spirit for your constant comfort and protection!

Wanting2believe, You are and will continue in my prayers in Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh, that His resance will fill youand heal you, that you will know the delight and power of God Our Father's love for you, that His gift of grace will be the delight of your life, and that His forgiveness will fill you and free you of all that sin tries to steal.

Wanting2believe, In Jesus, the darkness was overcome for me, I know it already has been overcome for you.
Sometimes it just takes time for one to let the flesh get out of the way. :)

In Jesus, God bless
pickles
 
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poopsey

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wanting2believe:

I too struggle with depression and have been suicidal at times. But I know that God does not want me to end my life so I hold on even by a thread. I am still going through things and all my problems have not been resolved as of yet so I am waiting on God.

However, perhaps you feel helpless because things are not going your way at all. That can make anyone depressed. I understand that and being depressed is not necessarily selfish as one poster stated.

I would suggest that you pick one small thing that you don't like and that you are able to change and do something to change or improve that one small thing so that you will not feel totally helpless and hopeless. Even if you don't feel it will make a difference just force yourself to do it anyways.

Then let me know how that worked. Just pick one small thing that you can handle and make a change. It will help get you out of that rut.
 
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wanting2believe

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Thank you but it dont matter anymore.. prayers are futile it is what it is.. and I am just being pushed til I do it... and well maybe it was all in vain..
I honestly am unable to do what you guys ask cuz its not in me to do. "oh your aim is not at jesus" I guess not.. but I do not know how to truly do what you guys ask so I give up on that... thank you tho.. Im bound to be unsaved so its ok.. why try.. your prayers are but futile.. Thank you, and may God bless you? if He does awesome I envy you...
 
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shekaniah

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If you cannot profess it out loud with your mouth...
Then type it in the forum...
Spoken and written word has power!

Still praying!
 
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poopsey

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wanting2believe:

You ask for help but yet it seems that you reject it when it is offered to you. Why are you doing that? I gave you some practical advice but you are not even willing to try. Take just one little small thing and either change it or improve it so that you can feel you have at least some control over your life. That will help if you only try it.

Other than that pray to Christ all throughout the day and tell him how you feel about things and your life. Use him as your personal counselor and ask him for help 24/7. If you are honest about your feelings then you will see results. God already knows how you feel anyways but confess it to him.

Other than that I find it strange that your country flag has changed.
 

pickles

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May we all come together in Jesus Christ is Lord, lifting up wanting2believe, that God Our Father will lift the darkness from Him, opening his heart and eyes to the faith, hpe and love that is His gift.
We command every spirit of depression and suicide to leave wanting2believe, filling him with the presance of the Holy Spirit.
We omand this in Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh.
We thankyou and praise you lord God, for all that is your care , power and grace filled love!

God bless
pickles
 
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anitalouise

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Please know God loves you - Please don't do this - God does not make junk - we all have a purpose - please Lord we lift him up to you and ask that he feel your wonderful, loving prescence - In Jesus Name. God wrap His arms around you.
 
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Livi94

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Uriel, whenever I think of suicide, tears quickly start to form. My cousin just commited suicide... we all thought he was happy but he thought he was missing something in his life too. He was 14 when he died. How can we know for sure what is missing when we are so young? Our parents who are in their 50s and our grandparents who are in their 80s, they LIVED and we have our whole lives ahead of us youngins (as cliche as it may sound). What my cousin missed now was his future. His suicide can't be taken back, our family's mourning will never really stop because he is not living WITH US anymore. His friends will always remember how their friend lied to them about being okay and then his suicide was like a slap in the face to their friendship. It's just not worth it. Your life is too precious for such a tragic ending. God will show Himself to you. HE WILL. Mabey in small ways He has already been showing you. If you don't feel that He has, He still has not abandoned you. He is with you no matter what. He is in your heart whether you believe or not and He will NEVER abandon you. Things do change but death is not a temporary like most things in our lives. Only God should decide when it's your time. He is holding you in His arms right now :)

I pray that He shows Himself to you, patience, though, is key (In most aspects of our lives) <3
God bless!

~Olivia
 
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BrotherWanting2Believe.You sure have the faith for everything bad to happen to you!!!This you have down to a very fine art!USE!!! THAT!! ANGER to believe in something GOOD!!!! to happen to you!There is nothing any of us can say to help you when you have locked yourself in a closet! The door you have made to stop all sound is amazing!

Will you just open the door a little please?Thanks!! Now Please be encouraged in this!No matter what you feel like,no matter how angry,you are, you are loved!You may not want to be!But you are!There is nothing you an do about it either!! I know how hard life is!So I sure do not have to tell you either!Homeless for 3 years, AFTER!!!!!I became saved!

Sleeping in my car,like you I sure wanted the very same as you do now!I did not want to hear from anyone about anything!Ah like you. So now what do I do??DO??? Yes brother DO!!!!! Crying did not help me,feeling bad for myself did not help me,blaming others did not help me!SO??? What do I do?Sound like you any??? I spent 3 days in jail because I took gas from a Gas station I could not pay for,but I felt guilty,just like you do,so I went to the gas station attendent and told him.Just like I am sure you would.Because deep down you are honest!You are honest enough to speak your true mind and heart,hoping against hope someone can help!

In order for any of us to help,you have to decide something.You want the help.Next I believe you do,because why would you speak to us unless you do?Brother,we love you!!I do not just say this,I mean what I say! DO likewise!! Give yourself a break! You right now sure do not need any help, in feeling down! Stop beating yourself up! NEVER give up!!!NEVER!!!! You have control over your own life!You have control over your own mind!TAKE CONTROL OF IT!! Take a deep breath bro!ok? ok now!DECIDE!!!

You are just as good as any of us!!( Acts 10:34 says so!)God does not love me, or any of us more then he loves you! Nor does the devil care how many lives he can take!He hates everyone of us!! Just the same!He is a thief( john 10:10) he is the very father of every lie ever told!( john 8:44) Why would you want to believe him??

This question was asked to me!well,but,I ah, YEA!!! why should I let the devil win at anything!!OK!! Time to start a fresh! Time to find out who I am in the Lord!What promises I can have,and then do something I have always needed to do! Let Jesus love me,learn how he can love me,and how he can help us to love ourself,because he is in us,then!! Show this love to others,to bless them!I sure did not do this overnight my brother!!! LOL But I set myself a purpose to my life,even as you need to do!There is that word again DO!In the end my brother only you can do it!We can encourage you to,we can tell you to,but you alone must decide on the doing part!We of course will be praying for you!

After I decided on this, I received a scripture from deep inside of me.Psalm 103:8-17!!) Please do read this slow and let it sink in. verse 12 Let your sea my brother be laid next to the sea Jesus has for you!Start new.Find a good bible based Church,not just for your sake!But also, so you can help another!Giving love to others one finds out they receive so much more from there giving!I sure know I did! faults?? Yep I have them ,but not anymore in love!Because love covers sins!( 1 Peter 4:8) MY SINS!!! as well!I need this covering,just like we all do,for the world is cold,and there is no better blanket to stay warm in Christ,then his blood he shed for us in love!( john 15:11-17!!!!) May this uplift you, to decide on LIFE!!!! Never death!! For in death one cannot change,one can never know hope,and others can never be loved by you! Blessing bro!
 
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YahsPrincess

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I recommend bondage breaker also, I hav been set free of my past and much more. HalleluYAH!
 
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Hi, I will like you to know that the thought to commit suicide is coming from the devil and you must try to overcome this temptation by praying and believing in GOD. God never fails to answer prayers and I know He will answer your prayers; but you must be patient and believe in Him because He knows you perfectly and also He knows the perfect time to answer your prayer and to provide you with solution to your problems. Do not allow the devil to fool you my friend because he is the father of lies and if you commit suicide you will still meet him in hell. Believe in GOD,trust in Him and be patient; and you will see and experience the wonders He will do for you.
God is soooooooooooooo good and He never fails.
May He Holy Spirit touch you.
Thanks
 
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Hi, I will like you to know that the thought to commit suicide is coming from the devil and you must try to overcome this temptation by praying and believing in GOD. God never fails to answer prayers and I know He will answer your prayers; but you must be patient and believe in Him because He knows you perfectly and also He knows the perfect time to answer your prayer and to provide you with solution to your problems. Do not allow the devil to fool you my friend because he is the father of lies and if you commit suicide you will still meet him in hell. Believe in GOD,trust in Him and be patient; and you will see and experience the wonders He will do for you.
God is soooooooooooooo good and He never fails.
May He Holy Spirit touch you.
Thanks
 
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Hi, I will like you to know that the thought to commit suicide is coming from the devil and you must try to overcome this temptation by praying and believing in GOD. God never fails to answer prayers and I know He will answer your prayers; but you must be patient and believe in Him because He knows you perfectly and also He knows the perfect time to answer your prayer and to provide you with solution to your problems. Do not allow the devil to fool you my friend because he is the father of lies and if you commit suicide you will still meet him in hell. Believe in GOD,trust in Him and be patient; and you will see and experience the wonders He will do for you.
God is soooooooooooooo good and He never fails.
May He Holy Spirit touch you.
Thanks
 
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Avidan

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I know that many reading this are young. I challenge you to read more than three lines. I challenge you to read it all and comprehend it through prayer and pondering.

Wanting2believe, I know that I have already written to you about this, but, I am posting it for you to read again, and especially for others who read this.

I also haven't read through all of the posts written in response to your thread, so I might be saying some of what has already been said. Please forgive me.

Here we go:

Believers are not to agree with hate (or lust) in their thoughts. To agree with hate in our thoughts is murder, and suicide is murder (to agree with lust in our thoughts is adultery). Your body does not belong to you, it belongs to the Lord. It is not yours to kill (nor is it yours to use sexually).

To be rid of this, you need to confess it to a brother and sister in Christ and have them pray for you. Because you have already brought it into the light, I will pray for you.

However, when agreement with the thoughts arises again, I suggest for you to confess it again.

Make the habit of confession stronger than the habit of sin. Let the time between the sin and the confession grow shorter and shorter.


Heavenly Father,

I pray that You will forgive Wanting2believe for any agreement with murder. I pray that You will heal him and deliver him. Hold him in your presence, send the Comforter to him I pray, In Jesus Name, Amen.



It is written:

Joh 20:23 Whose soever sins you remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins you retain, they are retained.

1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Jas 5:15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.


Now, when the thoughts come back and [if] you agree with the temptation again, do the best that you are able to confess it.



Call CBN (you can look up the number) - or, go to:


Church Online


I am not promoting either of these ministries for monetary means, nor do I agree with all of their doctrine; but, they are resources that you can use.



The more you confess after agreeing with evil thoughts, and/or acting upon them, the more you will acquire God's increasing and multiplying grace. He gives grace to the humble and confession to another brother or sister in Christ takes humility. The more grace that is manifested in your heart, the more the evil won't feel like a part of who you are.

This is part of purifying your self, even as Christ is pure.

1Jn_3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure.

Jas 4:8 Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double minded.

Jas_5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that you may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much.

Confession is a major way to make manifest our faith in Christ through humility. Confession is to agree with God that He is right, and that you can not be right without His help, through Christ.

Repent of trying to justify yourself and let Christ justify you before God.


Any hindrance or sin can be cast off in this way (by confession), through the Blood of Christ.


He will give you His life in exchange.


Many confessions are not to be done on this prayer board or through emails though.

They are not to be saved and filed away.

Once you confess, they are gone and the forgiveness that you already have through Christ is made manifest to your conscience. In this your mind and heart will not fight with each other and you will not be doubled minded, trying to justify yourself.

This will free you from fear, so if there are any steps that need to be taken legally or civilly concerning wrongs against other people, the Lord will give you the courage to do so, to make things right with the laws of the land and in love to others.



Psa 103:12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.




Read through this long list of verses and identify evil fruit in your life that is showing it's self and bring it to confession (look up the words if you don't know what they mean):[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]

1Jn 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that you sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.[/FONT]




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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2Co 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves...

1Cor 15:33 Stop being deceived: "Wicked friends lead to evil ends."[/FONT]


NLT: Don't be fooled by those who say such things, for "bad company corrupts good character."
KJV: Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners.
GWT: Don't let anyone deceive you. Associating with bad people will ruin decent people.


"The righteous should choose his friends carefully,
For the way of the wicked leads them astray."
Proverbs 12:26


"My son, if sinners entice you, do not consent." Proverbs 1:10


"Do not enter the path of the wicked, and do not walk in the way of evil. Avoid it, do not travel on it; turn away from it and pass on." Proverbs 4:14-15


"Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever? And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said:
'I will dwell in them and walk among them.
I will be their God, and they shall be My people.'
Therefore 'Come out from among them and be separate,' says the Lord."
2 Corinthians 6:14-17


2Pe 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
2Pe 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
2Pe 2:6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
2Pe 2:7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
2Pe 2:8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds) ;

2Pe 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
2Pe 2:10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Tim 3:1 ...know this, that in the last days perilous times will come:
2 Tim 3:2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
2 Tim 3:3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good,
2 Tim 3:4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
2 Tim 3:5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away![/FONT]

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Cor 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,
1 Cor 6:10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.


Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man sows, that shall he also reap.

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings...[/FONT]

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Rom 1:29 ...filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: [/FONT]




[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.[/FONT]
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Jas 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
Jas 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

Mat 5:22 But I say, if you are even angry with someone, you are subject to judgment! If you call someone an idiot, you are in danger of being brought before the court. And if you curse someone, you are in danger of the fires of hell.

Mat 5:28 ...I say unto you, That whosoever looks on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.[/FONT]







Cling to Jesus as your salvation through all of this. Claim His life and His righteousness instead of trying to justify yourself. Agree that God is right and confess the evil fruit that you do see in your walk with Christ and allow the Lord to help you walk like He walks.




1Jn_2:6 He that says he abides in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.







[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Jas 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that you may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much.[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Joh 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent...
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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]...in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
Joh 3:15 That whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Joh 3:18 He that believes on him is not condemned: but he that believes not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Joh 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Joh 3:20 For every one that does evil hates the light, neither comes to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
Joh 3:21 But he that does truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.


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Joh 6:28 ...What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
Joh 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.


[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]What is truth?[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Joh_14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes unto the Father, but by me.
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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Do truth, cling to Christ as your righteousness and justification to God, and come into the light, bring your evil deeds into the light and let them be reproved. Confess them and be healed.[/FONT] Your faith in Christ, in this manner, will grow and manifest good fruit. Fruit worthy of repentance. Confession is an act of humility and this is good fruit. Other fruit that is good:

Gal 5:22 ...the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering [patience], gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.


[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
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And let the LORD say to you:

Isa 41:10 Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.

Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.




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DEPRESSION SPIRIT I COMMAND YOU TO LEAVE IN JESUS NAME YOU DONT BELONG IN THE KINGDOM
 
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Avidan

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DEPRESSION SPIRIT I COMMAND YOU TO LEAVE IN JESUS NAME YOU DONT BELONG IN THE KINGDOM

Mat 12:43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walks through dry places, seeking rest, and finds none.
Mat 12:44 Then he says, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he finds it empty, swept, and garnished.
Mat 12:45 Then goes he, and takes with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first...

Exo 23:29 ...I will not drive them out from before thee in one year; lest the land become desolate, and the beast of the field multiply against thee.
Exo 23:30 By little and little I will drive them out from before thee, until thou be increased, and inherit the land.


It's important that a believer knows how to keep the land once it is conquered. It's also important that a person is serious about following the Lord. It cost everything we have in the world. Especially the worldly 'friends.'

I know a lot of people don't like what I type, but, it needs to be heard.

The pressure is going to increase and all of the abilities of man that are a substitute for righteousness and a chair of false justification are going fail him.

The demonic attacks will come and go. Abiding in the presence of the Lord is the answer. Continual thanksgiving and praise is a good place to start.

Joh 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
Joh 15:2 Every branch in me that bears not fruit he takes away: and every branch that bears fruit, he purges it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
Joh 15:3 Now you are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
Joh 15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can
you, except you abide in me.
Joh 15:5 I am the vine,
you are the branches: He that abides in me, and I in him, the same brings forth much fruit: for without me you can do nothing.
Joh 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
Joh 15:7 If
you abide in me, and my words abide in you, you shall ask what you will, and it shall be done unto you.
Joh 15:8 Herein is my Father glorified, that
you bear much fruit; so shall you be my disciples.
Joh 15:9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue
you in my love.
Joh 15:10 If
you keep my commandments, you shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
Joh 15:11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.
Joh 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
Joh 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
Joh 15:14
You are my friends, if you do whatsoever I command you.

We can be a clean branch, but, still not bear fruit. There is the [Spirit & incorruptible seed] and the [flesh & the spirit of the world - the tempter], each bear/conceive fruit when mixed.

We are to crucify the flesh through humility and use the Word of God against the tempter to separate us from him so these two do not conceive fruit.

We are to live in the Holy Spirit so the clean branch (incorruptible seed) can bear fruit, being attached to the Vine.


We will know whether we are abiding in the spirit of the world or in the Holy Spirit by the fruit we can examine in our own lives. We are to be a clean branch that bears much fruit. Clean branches that do not bear fruit will be thrown into the fire to be burned.

So we are clear as to wicked fruit that is on the Lord's heart:

No Abortions
Get rid of the worldly 'friends'
No pornography
No using your own body (or others- outside of Biblical marriage) sexually
Keep yourself for one marriage partner of the opposite sex. Wait on the Lord for him/her
Spend more time with the Lord than with other things (TV and video games)
Do not hate in your thoughts
Do not lust in your thoughts
Capture every thought according to the obedience of Christ. ( this is loving others - how would you want others to think about you and act towards you? - this you do to others)

Ask the Lord for help! We can only do it by His power anyway.

Mat 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet [deserving] for repentance...

Mat 3:10 ...And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which brings not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Mar 11:13 And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet.
Mar 11:14 And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it...

Mar 11:20 ...And in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots.
Mar 11:21 And Peter calling to remembrance saith unto him, Master, behold, the fig tree which thou cursed is withered away.


I pray the Lord does this for all of us:

Luk 13:6 He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.
Luk 13:7 Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?
Luk 13:8 And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung [fertilize] it:
Luk 13:9 And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.

Help us to bear fruit worthy of repentance, Father, in Jesus Name, Amen.


2Th 1:11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfill all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power:
2Th 1:12 That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and you in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

1Jn 3:13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.
1Jn 3:14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loves not his brother abides in death.
1Jn 3:15 Whosoever hates his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
1Jn 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
1Jn 3:17 But whoso hath this world's good, and sees his brother have need, and shuts up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwells the love of God in him?
1Jn 3:18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.


...http://christianchat.com/prayer-requests/42006-prayer-cuz-suicide-my-mind-2.html#post710147

...http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/42345-what-purity.html#post712033

...http://christianchat.com/prayer-requests/35885-hate.html#post615192


 
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shirley

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DEAR WANTING TO BELIEVE I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW IM PRAYING FOR YOU AND IM THERE SOMETIMES I FEEL ALONE TOO I SUFFER DEPRESSION FEEL ALONE BUT YOU KNOW SUCIDE IS NOT THE ANSWER THE PEOPLE LEAVE BEHIND WILL BE FILLED WTH SORROW AND GOD PUT YOU HERE FOR A PURPOSE HE GAVE YOU LIFE HE LOVES YOU TOO PLEASE DONT TAKE THAT LIFE JESUS GAVE YOU OK LOVE YOU BROTHER SHIRLEY SMILE JESUS LOVES YOU SO DOES YOUR FAMILY ON CC OK
 
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wanting2believe

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Avidan your message is not rejected.. I understand what your trying to teach.. but what you ask.. will and cannot be done not by many.. Im trying man.. Im trying.. but honestly I cant do it anymore.. so thats why I gave up already.. if its that hard to reach God.. then I give up man.

If Im called evil and if I am called that who didnt really want to be with God then I shall not hide from that name.. because I honestly cannot do it.. hey I can do all that.. honestly I can close myself off in a room.. with just a bible and food and I promise you by the end of the second day I will just end up crazy man.. crazy cuz I cannot do or go forward with this... but I take your word and I thank you but now take this word from this sinner....

Honestly man thank you.. but honestly I sometimes just want you feel how I feel and what I have my heart, and mind.. I would let anybody have this.. just so you can understand.. you can say all you want but you dont feel what I feel. See and understand what I feel, you have some knowledge of it..I do honestly know God can do it all.. still man, you need to be in my shoes. I know others have suffered greater things than me.. I never have said other wise.. but I suffer this pain.. I am the one who is suffering.. the one feeling it... so my suffering is greater in my person.. I cannot say my suffering is greater then yours.. because to you, your suffering is greater to you, in your person.. so I just need you just keep that in mind...

I tried it your way, I did what you told me to do.. it didnt help. Its does not take effect in my person.. but still I thank you.. but yea man I gave up... its not today but some day near I will.. cuz its a decision I have come to do.. I know that you have to say what you have to say.. but also listen to what I say.. I did what you told me.. it didnt take any effect none.. none.. you know that it didnt you were there. You read what I wrote to you.. you are witness that I told you that nothing happen and didnt gave me any comfort or push to actually keep on going with this battle.. Im evil, and a coward and all the above.. you know that..

Shriley thank you.. your prayers like Avidans are appreciated.. they are.. but honestly Jesus is not enough for me.. so If im bound to hell then so be it.. I accept it.. cuz how he wants me to do things.. are not possible in my person. If you and all the Christians find the strenght to cling on God then I applaud you because you guys are better people then me.. but I will not pretend or act something I cannot be.. but still I thank you.. and may God bless you all...