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ThePottersClay

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I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place... my husband believes he's dying, and not matter what I tell him, what I suggest, he has an answer.

He's not been diagnosed with anyting at all, in fact through many blood tests there were no irregularities found.. yet. He believes he's dying, and that God's not letting the Doctors find his illness because its his time.

I'm going insane here...

Do I slap him silly or support him and show compassion, I can't do this anymore... the past 12 months its been a roller coaster with him being "Ill" one thing after the other...

I've suggested help, I've suggested everything... but he's refusing.

Does he not see what this is doing to his Wife and kids? How can a man be so self centered!
 

Crimson_Lark

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Apr 17, 2012
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Do you see any of his symptoms? Is it possible he has something that the doctors are missing? What about his family health history? Is there any mental illness in his family?
 
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ThePottersClay

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Well Crimson, it started in 2013, when he was diagnosed with a Hernia, after that we changed his diet, but he always feels ill in his stomach and breathy, so time continued, he went on Nexium pills for his Hiatus Hernia. Then in October it took a turn for the worst, we ended up rushing him to hospital for breathing attacks which I really think was more ansiety, but he says he is not anxious at all. Then in December he ended up in Hospital for a suspected heart attack, after so many blood tests and Cardiovascular tests, everything was perfectly normal. A week later another incident. We ended up in hospital again, this time they thought that his hernia was bad enough that his stomach was pushing through into vital organs *lungs and heart. They did another Gastroscopy and this time around, there was no sign of a hernia... so once again we went back home.
My brother who is also a minister in one of the local churches came and saw him and suggested that he leaves wheat, try a gluten free diet... and then his condition improved... now this of course allowed the back injury to surface and in May this year, he ended up in hospital for a Spinal Fusion... its one thing after the other, but he's been tested for it all.

HIV
Balarzia
Anemia
Sugar
heart ensimes

I mean I have lists and lists surely if there was something like cancer affecting his health they would find irregularities in some of the tests right?

I really think its an angsiety disorder, his feeling of impending death shows signs of depression, yet he denies this. He says he's not depressed, or scared. He's come to peace with the fact that he's dying.

I can't cope... honestly... I can't.
 
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ThePottersClay

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on top of that they did Ultrasounds to check the size of his liver, gall bladder, prostate etc and everything is NORMAL even his heart....
 
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psychomom

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#5
oh, sweetie! ♥
i can't imagine...and the children...!

i'm guessing there was a time he felt normally about his health?
may i ask if the way he feels now is effecting parts of life like work, or spending time with family?
(just tell me it's none of my business, if you like. that would be perfectly okay!)

medically speaking, there are a few mental health issues which could be at play,
and your husband being evaluated psychologically sounds prudent.
practical advice over. :)

1 Cor. 1 tells us of the Father of mercies...the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our affliction.
i'm praying for you this evening.

grace abundant to you, and p-e-a-c-e.
love,
ellie



 

RickyZ

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Sep 20, 2012
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So let me glean from your previous posts and diagnose his situation:

He's got a hernia, a bad back with spinal fusion, respiratory/anxiety issues, presumed heart attack, but everything tested ok, suspected hernia distention into the abdomen, but again tested ok. Had some relief with gluten-free. Suspected anxiety disorder. Driving wife and kids to anxiety disorders of their own ;)

I have stomach issues, and diet is key to placating them. My system has gotten to where it rejects every form of man made sugars. The gluten free is important too; the gluten is the tissue between the shell and the seed and it's purpose is to keep molds and bugs from getting to that seed. Refiners grind it up with the seed because, well, it keeps the molds and bugs from getting to that seed. But then you eat it, and now you have nature's anti-fungals and pesticide in your gut. Some guts can take it, mine not so much anymore. It could be the issue with him. Either way, which is the way you really want to eat? So I'd start there, no more candy or cr*p. If he complains and makes you buy it, next time he goes to the doctor quietly take along an apple or some such thing. Then, as he's waiting for the probing and prodding, offer it to him and ask him if he wouldn't like to change his mind.

The anxiety thing, you can't be held hostage to it. You should comfort and support, but if he's going to be a whiny baby you have to sit him in a corner where he can whine it off himself. I realize that's easier said than done with some people, but really beyond comfort and support what more can you do? If he he keeps playing the 'I'm dying" card, you need to trump that. You need to put an estate plan in front of him, whether to make new or update, and if he blows that off you have the right as a spouse to call a lawyer in for that purpose. You need to put funeral plans and arrangements before him as well. Not in a vindictive way, but as in 'well honey I'm praying for you to be well, but you raise an important subject that we should look at even if we were well...'. Besides actually needing these things in any marriage, having them under his nose might give him a visual on what he is spewing from his lips.

And worst come to worst, you have a right to extricate yourself and your children from an unhealthy/hostile environment. Sometimes the best medicine can be to give someone a look at life without, you know? And you can't help him if you're wrapped tighter than an airport sandwich. It doesn't have to be divorce nor does it have to be separating, it's just getting away to take a breath and help save everyone's sanity. "in sickness and in health" includes your health too. And your children's.

God bless you. I'll be praying for you all. Amen!
 

JGuy

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Apr 18, 2013
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It does almost sound like a panic attack, but you said: "He says he's not depressed, or scared. He's come to peace with the fact that he's dying."... So, that makes me think maybe not... But I don't know. I'm not a doctor.

In what you listed, you did mention improvement in one area of his health by changing his diet. And you mentioned he actually needed a spinal fusion for another issue. If he actually needed those things, then at least you know those are real tangible issues that you could deal with head-on. From there, I don't know what to add yet, other than maybe make sure you are careful not to not let those legitimate health issues add emotional weight to the more frustrating suspicious/undetectable one(s).
 
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J-Kay-2

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#8
Replying to RickyZ...... Some I agree with. Especially the 'legal paper work'
such as discussion of his will, and ask what his preference is regarding funeral
arrangements. Seriously, it sounds funny, but it has to be done anyway, so why
not do that ? I don't know his age. I do know I sympathize with his issues
because I have had many,many tests and it all comes down to the abdominal
issues and esophagus and that can make one feel like they are having heart attack.
Also, having surgery can cause us to develop scar tissue, (adhesion) which pulls
on the major organs. The only way to see that is through surgery which in turn
only will give temporary relief, because they will come back.
I personally have them lower and upper abdominal and growing to major organs.
But surgery is not worth it for me to just have them come back.

I feel for the wife. My husband has had to put up with the medical issues
with me and I know it is frustrating for them. I try to only let my husband know
so he can pray for me. He does lay hands on the area, such as when I am
trying to pass kidney stone, he will pray over kidney, and the Lord is gracious
to answer.

Does he watch a lot of shows about ailments or death? ( I don't )....
Does he stay on computer to check out symptoms ? ( I don't ).....
I really feel bad for both husband and wife. So I too will join in prayer
for the Lord to help her know how to get him help.

There could be a spirit of infirmity prayed to leave him if we agree
or his pastor and elders would pray for that spirit to leave. Or satan
is lying to him and he is yielding to the lies. I ask our Father in Heaven
to please help this couple be at peace with one another and may the
Lord touch him in the areas he is in pain or believes he has. Jesus,
please be with the wife and comfort her and help her through this
stressful time and show her what she can do to help get through this
tiring situation she is in. I ask it in the name of Jesus... Amen
 

levi85

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Jul 2, 2013
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Lord Jesus, give your knowlege and wisdom, and whatever the sickness may be , please heal him, and let this family, and the pottersclay, lead a peaceful life
 
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vansfordave

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He should talk to a counselor. Unfortunately mild mental illness is so stigmatized that people tend to avoid treatment. It's not like he's a raving lunatic or something, but he has a mild delusion that is effecting his life. There is treatment, so he should go and get treatment. Otherwise, pray for him and I will continue praying for him as well. Certainly there are many people on this forum praying who do not click "like" or respond. Be faithful and encouraged.

God bless.

:)
 
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ThePottersClay

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He hasn't been at work for 6 weeks after his Spinal Fusion, he's due back tomorrow. But post the opp, he was off sick very often, he's expired his sick leave substantially... management notices this. Anyway... I don't know. Maybe he really is ill... Maybe the doctors are missing something.

oh, sweetie! ♥
i can't imagine...and the children...!

i'm guessing there was a time he felt normally about his health?
may i ask if the way he feels now is effecting parts of life like work, or spending time with family?
(just tell me it's none of my business, if you like. that would be perfectly okay!)

medically speaking, there are a few mental health issues which could be at play,
and your husband being evaluated psychologically sounds prudent.
practical advice over. :)

1 Cor. 1 tells us of the Father of mercies...the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our affliction.
i'm praying for you this evening.

grace abundant to you, and p-e-a-c-e.
love,
ellie



 
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ThePottersClay

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Raving lunatic... he has serious mood swings, which he writes off to him feeling ill and inadequate all the time. The one moment he'll be the footprint of love, the next he rages through the house, telling everyone how pathetic we are. This in particular I have managed to simply ignore, because well simply because I've grown immune to those outbursts, other times, he'll simply lock himself away in his study for hours on end, this too, I let be, if thats where he finds his peace then so be it... Last night I suggested he sees a psychologist, just to get things of his chest perhaps, maybe the specialist could determine what could be wrong. I've even thought "Bipolar" but he wont do any of that. His response to me suggesting counselling or psychology treatments... is "They can tell you exactly what's wrong with you, but if you dont do anything about it, then its useless, so why go?" Which to me says "Yes my dear, I know whats wrong with me, but I like the way I am so I'll just stay the way I am" .... I will pray that God reaches down and make him feel loved and take away his pain and discomfort... mentally or physically.

He should talk to a counselor. Unfortunately mild mental illness is so stigmatized that people tend to avoid treatment. It's not like he's a raving lunatic or something, but he has a mild delusion that is effecting his life. There is treatment, so he should go and get treatment. Otherwise, pray for him and I will continue praying for him as well. Certainly there are many people on this forum praying who do not click "like" or respond. Be faithful and encouraged.

God bless.

:)
 
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ThePottersClay

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Does he watch a lot of shows about ailments or death? ( I don't )....
Does he stay on computer to check out symptoms ? ( I don't ).....
One word... Google....
 
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psychomom

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#14
He hasn't been at work for 6 weeks after his Spinal Fusion, he's due back tomorrow. But post the opp, he was off sick very often, he's expired his sick leave substantially... management notices this. Anyway... I don't know. Maybe he really is ill... Maybe the doctors are missing something.
...it has been known to happen.

praying for wisdom and patience for you all.
 
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jb800m

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#15
praying for the truth to come forth of this situation
 
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J-Kay-2

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#16
One word... Google....
You know I just read through again and the mental issue was brought up.
I am thinking .... Has he always been this way ? Or could it be the medications
he has been on for the pain for so long. Medication can really mess up a mind
and be dangerous. I remember a lady on here last evening mentioned you
could be in danger. I am thinking it was in the beginning. If you can say he
began to get this way after medication over a period of time... I think she could
be right and you will need prayer for safety... for him to be delivered.... God bless you.
My heart goes out to you and children.

I remember once I was put on a medication for pain and within a week my
personality was changing. I would never let them give me that again. It is
worth considering if you think it is the medication.....He will need help slowly
if he has been on it for long time.

Praying God will lead your steps, and help you through this valley you are
in currently. God bless you.