Trying to understand my life.
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Doctors kill people all on their own due to being clueless on how to heal... all they do is hand out drugs that mask symptoms and hope the human body will heal itself while the symptoms are being covered up by drugs.... and it costs a fortune for medical treatment because the world makes BILLIONS off of treating people with medical care that's no different than gambling...
Putting doctors before the Lord Jesus Christ is idolatry... so, please, please show me in the New Testament where God says He gave medical science to mankind, or show me in the New Testament where God instructs us to go to the doctor rather than coming to Him for health.
The reason you won't be able to find it is simply because... it's not there!
You wouldn't be claiming that God is no able or doesn't want to heal people, would you?
If you are, I'd like to see scripture that makes you think that.
Putting doctors before the Lord Jesus Christ is idolatry... so, please, please show me in the New Testament where God says He gave medical science to mankind, or show me in the New Testament where God instructs us to go to the doctor rather than coming to Him for health.
The reason you won't be able to find it is simply because... it's not there!
You wouldn't be claiming that God is no able or doesn't want to heal people, would you?
If you are, I'd like to see scripture that makes you think that.
[h=1]1 Timothy 4:4New International Version (NIV)[/h][FONT="]4 For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving,[/FONT]
Dr's have saved my life twice so far. I was born way too early and had to basically stay at the hospital for months and had to be put into basically a bubble since my immune system was really weak. I am glad God created the ambition in people to go to school for soo many years and people who wanted to study how people's bodies work. I was real sick a few years ago with an infection and had to stay a week at the hospital. Dr's, for the most part, do the best they can. If everything God created is good then medicine is good. Now of course just like any of God's creation, once abused and defiled by sin we see addictions and misuse of medicine. Just, for example, I'm glad we have vaccines for polio and antibiotics for bubonic plague. In Europe in the mid-fourteenth century over a five-year period from 1347 to 1352, 25 million people died. And between 1950-2011 and estimated 9000 adults and children died from polio before the vaccine was introduced in 1955.
[h=1]James 1:5Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)[/h]5 [FONT="]Now if any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives to all generously and without criticizing, and it will be given to him.[/FONT]
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James 3:17Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)[/h][FONT="]17 But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peace-loving, gentle, compliant, full of mercy and good fruits, without favoritism and hypocrisy.[/FONT]
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[FONT="]I will say God gives us common sense and good judgment if we try to listen. So obviously we can seek second opinions, more natural remedies, or seek holistic medicinewhich is a term used to describe therapies that attempt to treat the patient as a whole person. That is, instead of treating an illness, as in orthodox allopathy, holistic medicine looks at an individual's overall physical, mental, spiritual, and emotional wellbeing before recommending treatment.[/FONT]
[FONT="]I also know that medicine right now is helping me walk. I hate taking medicine so I try to go without out for long periods of time but always end up severely hurting and limited movement below the waist. But with meds, I can walk with mild pain. [/FONT]
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Dr's have saved my life twice so far. I was born way too early and had to basically stay at the hospital for months and had to be put into basically a bubble since my immune system was really weak. I am glad God created the ambition in people to go to school for soo many years and people who wanted to study how people's bodies work. I was real sick a few years ago with an infection and had to stay a week at the hospital. Dr's, for the most part, do the best they can. If everything God created is good then medicine is good. Now of course just like any of God's creation, once abused and defiled by sin we see addictions and misuse of medicine. Just, for example, I'm glad we have vaccines for polio and antibiotics for bubonic plague. In Europe in the mid-fourteenth century over a five-year period from 1347 to 1352, 25 million people died. And between 1950-2011 and estimated 9000 adults and children died from polio before the vaccine was introduced in 1955.
[h=1]James 1:5Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)[/h]5 [FONT="]Now if any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives to all generously and without criticizing, and it will be given to him.[/FONT]
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James 3:17Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)[/h][FONT="]17 But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peace-loving, gentle, compliant, full of mercy and good fruits, without favoritism and hypocrisy.[/FONT]
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[FONT="]I will say God gives us common sense and good judgment if we try to listen. So obviously we can seek second opinions, more natural remedies, or seek holistic medicinewhich is a term used to describe therapies that attempt to treat the patient as a whole person. That is, instead of treating an illness, as in orthodox allopathy, holistic medicine looks at an individual's overall physical, mental, spiritual, and emotional wellbeing before recommending treatment.[/FONT]
[FONT="]I also know that medicine right now is helping me walk. I hate taking medicine so I try to go without out for long periods of time but always end up severely hurting and limited movement below the waist. But with meds, I can walk with mild pain. [/FONT]
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Luke 10:33-34Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
33 But a Samaritan on his journey came up to him, and when he saw the man, he had compassion. 34He went over to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on olive oil and wine. Then he put him on his own animal, brought him to an inn, and took care of him.
Jesus makes a statement about sick are the ones who need doctors and we all know the gospel of Luke was told by a Doctor. Luke was a physician and a Doctor.
Matthew 9:12Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
12 But when He heard this, He said, “Those who are well don’t need a doctor, but the sick do.
Colossians 4:14Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
14Luke, the dearly loved physician, and Demas greet you.
33 But a Samaritan on his journey came up to him, and when he saw the man, he had compassion. 34He went over to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on olive oil and wine. Then he put him on his own animal, brought him to an inn, and took care of him.
Jesus makes a statement about sick are the ones who need doctors and we all know the gospel of Luke was told by a Doctor. Luke was a physician and a Doctor.
Matthew 9:12Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
12 But when He heard this, He said, “Those who are well don’t need a doctor, but the sick do.
Colossians 4:14Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
14Luke, the dearly loved physician, and Demas greet you.
If one trusts in doctors first before the Lord... what happens when doctors cannot do anything which is happening more and more... die???
Why not put the Lord first, eat right, exercise, get plenty of rest, plenty of clean water (common sense)... and continually meditate on the promises of God to build His healing into your life so you can grow to the place where you don't need doctors???
I"ve seen lot of Christians die, many of whom claimed they believed in healing from the Lord but when it gets right down to it that decided to trust in the doctor instead of the Lord... and sadly they died early and did not live a long life as the Lord promises in Pslams 91 for those that abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
Not to mention the financial drain on families causing them to go broke... it's too bad more people don't grow in the Lord's way of being healthy.
I'm still waiting for someone to show me from scripture where God tells us to trust in doctors before Him for our health... and to show me where in scripture God says "I'm sending doctors and medical science for you folks, to keep you all well"
All I've ever been about to find is instructions to believe God's promises and the prayer of faith will save the sick and how faith without corresponding action is dead... apparently, true faith goes to the Lord for healing and not to the doctor.
Why not put the Lord first, eat right, exercise, get plenty of rest, plenty of clean water (common sense)... and continually meditate on the promises of God to build His healing into your life so you can grow to the place where you don't need doctors???
I"ve seen lot of Christians die, many of whom claimed they believed in healing from the Lord but when it gets right down to it that decided to trust in the doctor instead of the Lord... and sadly they died early and did not live a long life as the Lord promises in Pslams 91 for those that abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
Not to mention the financial drain on families causing them to go broke... it's too bad more people don't grow in the Lord's way of being healthy.
I'm still waiting for someone to show me from scripture where God tells us to trust in doctors before Him for our health... and to show me where in scripture God says "I'm sending doctors and medical science for you folks, to keep you all well"
All I've ever been about to find is instructions to believe God's promises and the prayer of faith will save the sick and how faith without corresponding action is dead... apparently, true faith goes to the Lord for healing and not to the doctor.
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Roughsoul, I praise God that you are rooted in scripture.
For those whose faith might be wavering because of Wassups words. A few things to consider:
1. Luke was believed to be a doctor
2. Timothy was told by Paul to have a little wine for his stomach issues
3. Eternal health is promised to our resurected bodies, not this temporal shells that all DIE!
It's not a sin to go to a doctor, and people who preach such things will have to answer to God.
For those whose faith might be wavering because of Wassups words. A few things to consider:
1. Luke was believed to be a doctor
2. Timothy was told by Paul to have a little wine for his stomach issues
3. Eternal health is promised to our resurected bodies, not this temporal shells that all DIE!
It's not a sin to go to a doctor, and people who preach such things will have to answer to God.
C
Hebrews 4:15
For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who was tempted in every way that we are, yet was without sin.
16 Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.
Hebrews 4:16
16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
Believing in your immediate need to be met according to His riches in glory and grace. Give thanks in Jesus Christ name! Amen.
For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who was tempted in every way that we are, yet was without sin.
16 Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.
Hebrews 4:16
16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
Believing in your immediate need to be met according to His riches in glory and grace. Give thanks in Jesus Christ name! Amen.
They are doing all they can and I am thankful for that but its not enough. In a perfect world, a new job with same pay lol that allows me to work standing,sitting or moving would be great that way when my back gets aggravated I can sit and work instead of forced to be on my feet and just tough it out. But since I went to school to get the degree that got me this job, I am making way more than anything else I can apply for. And that's the problem. My wife works at chic fil a and is trying to get her college paid for through them since they will pay for an employees college if they sign a contract to work for them 2 years after they get the degree. So either way right now I feel the weight on my shoulders and have to constantly throw the weight on God because I cant even think of the future. I'm taking it day by day.