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Genuine question: Does it help men with sexual issues to talk about it -- is it really bringing them closer to being free of them -- I understand women needing support from eachother, but does it help us men in this area if what we find out is, sure, there are others like me?
In the end it's just hard work??
For me, I just stopped.
And for marijuana, I stopped rolling it into a cigarette paper, putting it in my mouth and lighting it.
In the end it's just hard work??
For me, I just stopped.
And for marijuana, I stopped rolling it into a cigarette paper, putting it in my mouth and lighting it.
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Sounds as though you assume all people are the same, and that because you're a certain way, then everyone else should as well. I have a friend who has the same problem. It causes her a lot of problems as she can't seem to understand why people don't act how she does. Sounds to me like you didn't really have an addiction to begin with. Some people do things out of enjoyment, while others do those same things out of compulsion. You need to understand the difference.
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(okay, I've thought about it. My experience of sponsoring a good friend in pornography rehab (after prison for child abuse), my marijuana challenge (which was only the last year of 13 years use) and my moral failures as a man have not (I'm serious) probably given me knowledge of the depths of this challenge.)
Okay, but I'm as yet still thinking there's just limited value in conversation (as different from sponsoring), and in this forum format especially. ( I am convinced it's not good place to counsel a pornography addict, in front of a computer screen.)
Still, I've learned to govern myself by journey, and I'm still up for what anyone would like to say.
Okay, but I'm as yet still thinking there's just limited value in conversation (as different from sponsoring), and in this forum format especially. ( I am convinced it's not good place to counsel a pornography addict, in front of a computer screen.)
Still, I've learned to govern myself by journey, and I'm still up for what anyone would like to say.
I believe it would pay to have a place where men could post about their issues. We as christians should be humble, but the pride of a man can be an enormous thing. It may be that someone needs advice, it may be that they just need to not feel alone, but most of all the bible says that we should tell one another our transgressions and pray for eachother's faults. If nothing else we could pray for eachother.
I think that a place that only men could see would be a good way to start. As for teen males, they shouldn't be excluded. In this day and age when children are growing up long before its time in a world that accepts everything BUT God's ways this forum could be a very important tool for the sake of their development. One of the best ways to keep someone from smoking is to show them the cancerous lung of a smoker.
I think that a place that only men could see would be a good way to start. As for teen males, they shouldn't be excluded. In this day and age when children are growing up long before its time in a world that accepts everything BUT God's ways this forum could be a very important tool for the sake of their development. One of the best ways to keep someone from smoking is to show them the cancerous lung of a smoker.
So I've seen mostly girls supporting the idea of a men's forum because of mainly topics like porn, masturbation....and well just that. I don't think they would create a forum dedidated to that, since it's only 2 topics. And just like NodMyHeadLikeYeah said, I'm tired of those too; but you ladies could just not click and open those posts, I know I avoid them too.
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Hey folks. I am brand new to this site, but have been on literally dozens of other christian (and other)chatrooms, that are "designed to uplift and provide an open forum for men and women to discuss their thoughts, feelings and views of Gods word and how it has impacted their lives. and to help them to answer the questions they have regarding emplementing Gods word in their personnal and professional lives.
I have read the entire thread on this subject regarding a "mens forum". and I have to say that even as it is in our local church congregations there are people who are either so ridged/prude, that they think any discussion of anything "sexual" in nature should NEVER be discussed. OR they are actually dealing with so much of their OWN SIN problems that they through up walls of disgust and offence??
As scripture says, "no one is without Sin, no not one"!
We are all made of flesh and blood and we ALL have to deal with own problems of sinful behavior whether it is greed, pride, sexual, gossiping or yes even unforgiveness/ refussing to help those who need help.
I personnaly have had to deal with an addiction to pornography since I was in junior high in the 70s. As have millions of people who were in their teens and twenties back then. As pornography, and so called "free sex" was all the rage!
After years in the army, I came back to the church, and to Christ. yet even with all my praying, afsting and Iron will and Self Discipline, I still deal with it daily. I fact, after I left the military, I moved as far away from the strip clubs and adult book stores as I could! (way the heck out in southwest Kansas) But Satan as the "Prince of the Earth, going back and forth looking for someone to devour" managed to catch up with me in the way of the Internet!!
I have tried for years to seek the wisdom and councel of my elders, yet they grew up in a time when pornogrphy was not readaly available! So they have no clue as to what we deal with now days. I am 47 now, and even men who are 20 years older than I cannot relate.
I agree that their needs to be a forum where "Christian" men can talk with other "Christian" men in an enviroment of peace, and annonimity, without the risk of reprisals.
And I agree that unfortunatly, there are people (both men and women) who Hide who they truly are and use the forum for their own perversions.
But if we as Christians, cannot or are willing to reach out to, and help those who are in need of help, then when we finally do reach the throne of God, He will say "LEAVE ME, FOR I KNEW YOU NOT!
Just something for alot of you good Christians to think about
It IS nice to see that there are alot of individuals who are willing to help, and have an understanding and compassionate heart!
God Bless
I have read the entire thread on this subject regarding a "mens forum". and I have to say that even as it is in our local church congregations there are people who are either so ridged/prude, that they think any discussion of anything "sexual" in nature should NEVER be discussed. OR they are actually dealing with so much of their OWN SIN problems that they through up walls of disgust and offence??
As scripture says, "no one is without Sin, no not one"!
We are all made of flesh and blood and we ALL have to deal with own problems of sinful behavior whether it is greed, pride, sexual, gossiping or yes even unforgiveness/ refussing to help those who need help.
I personnaly have had to deal with an addiction to pornography since I was in junior high in the 70s. As have millions of people who were in their teens and twenties back then. As pornography, and so called "free sex" was all the rage!
After years in the army, I came back to the church, and to Christ. yet even with all my praying, afsting and Iron will and Self Discipline, I still deal with it daily. I fact, after I left the military, I moved as far away from the strip clubs and adult book stores as I could! (way the heck out in southwest Kansas) But Satan as the "Prince of the Earth, going back and forth looking for someone to devour" managed to catch up with me in the way of the Internet!!
I have tried for years to seek the wisdom and councel of my elders, yet they grew up in a time when pornogrphy was not readaly available! So they have no clue as to what we deal with now days. I am 47 now, and even men who are 20 years older than I cannot relate.
I agree that their needs to be a forum where "Christian" men can talk with other "Christian" men in an enviroment of peace, and annonimity, without the risk of reprisals.
And I agree that unfortunatly, there are people (both men and women) who Hide who they truly are and use the forum for their own perversions.
But if we as Christians, cannot or are willing to reach out to, and help those who are in need of help, then when we finally do reach the throne of God, He will say "LEAVE ME, FOR I KNEW YOU NOT!
Just something for alot of you good Christians to think about
It IS nice to see that there are alot of individuals who are willing to help, and have an understanding and compassionate heart!God Bless
Yeah, it's only two topics, but considering how often they are mentioned in the forums, I think you guys would be busy enough with just two. J/K!!
I agree that it's not necessarily the best place for recovery, THAT would be the Scriptures, but it might still stir up some accountability buddies. Knowing others are going through the same struggles, especially when there has been successes gained, can really help to avoid depression and dispair.
Besides, at the very least, together you can try to decipher girl talk and discuss the best answer to "Does this make me look fat?" without your wife/girlfriend being exposed to the lesser quality answers.
Hi, I'm Marcella, and I support a Men's Forum.
J/K!!I agree that it's not necessarily the best place for recovery, THAT would be the Scriptures, but it might still stir up some accountability buddies. Knowing others are going through the same struggles, especially when there has been successes gained, can really help to avoid depression and dispair.
Besides, at the very least, together you can try to decipher girl talk and discuss the best answer to "Does this make me look fat?" without your wife/girlfriend being exposed to the lesser quality answers.
Hi, I'm Marcella, and I support a Men's Forum.
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I personally struggled with pornography, and I believe that the way out is not in some recovery program, or even in earthly accountability partners, but all in the mind. If you constantly flood your mind with thoughts of glory and Christ the enemy has no room to attack. That's why the word tells us to be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
If you want to learn more about how to overcome the addiction, check this video out:
Live Pure. Free from Pornography and Lustful Thoughts - Tim Conway - YouTube
If you want to learn more about how to overcome the addiction, check this video out:
Live Pure. Free from Pornography and Lustful Thoughts - Tim Conway - YouTube
My reply:
Whether by accident or on purpose, people can create fake accounts with misinformation. Kids can act like adults and adults can act like kids. And then there are those who pretend to be kids stuck with a listed adult age, or an adult stuck with a listed kid's age. The same is true of males and females.
Therefore, unless stricter varification measures are set in place AND enforced (which could require creating a paid-only section to CC), it is unlikely that a men-only site will prevent kids or women from seeing what you want to evade them. Besides, there are men, so I am told, who are just jerks
Still, I agree that creating a buffer for men-only discussions will help DECREASE the number of awkward experiences for women and children...and the men in that discussion (whatever it may be).
Finally, think of the kid who is not in church and the parents live messages contrary to Scripture.
Stumbling upon Christian men and/or women talking about ANY subject could be healthy.
(Note: I am not suggesting this IS healthy, but it can be a lesser of two "evils.")
Related Prayer: "Lord, bless the readers, whoever they are. Amen."
Whether by accident or on purpose, people can create fake accounts with misinformation. Kids can act like adults and adults can act like kids. And then there are those who pretend to be kids stuck with a listed adult age, or an adult stuck with a listed kid's age. The same is true of males and females.
Therefore, unless stricter varification measures are set in place AND enforced (which could require creating a paid-only section to CC), it is unlikely that a men-only site will prevent kids or women from seeing what you want to evade them. Besides, there are men, so I am told, who are just jerks
Still, I agree that creating a buffer for men-only discussions will help DECREASE the number of awkward experiences for women and children...and the men in that discussion (whatever it may be).
Finally, think of the kid who is not in church and the parents live messages contrary to Scripture.
Stumbling upon Christian men and/or women talking about ANY subject could be healthy.
(Note: I am not suggesting this IS healthy, but it can be a lesser of two "evils.")
Related Prayer: "Lord, bless the readers, whoever they are. Amen."
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While i think a male forum is a good idea, as i stated previously, they are usually a waste of time as men typically don't seem to use them often. But people seem to be mistaking 'mens forum' for 'porn and sex forum'. A mens forum is not relegated to one or two topics. It could be to discuss anything relating to men. Sports, marital problems, how to propose, how to ask a girl out, cars, household repairs or any number of other topics. Granted these topics can be discussed across gender, but sometimes a guy just likes to ask a guy. Just the same as how the women have their own section in the forum to discuss things that may be personal, or just of no interest to the average man haha.