Why are you hating each other

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Came_to_my_rescue

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So as I was bored and unable to sleep I decided to go through ChristianChat and read some of the threads, and why are you people attacking each other so much? I saw somebody say something along the lines of 'Well I'm going to pray for you because you are obviously severely misguided" maybe I read to much into it but if someone said that to me when I was a Christian that would be a huge slap in the face (I understand how you may believe somebody may be misguided but it seems like instead of talking about different view points the font gets bigger people's emotions run high and then it seems like they are playing the "I'm holier then thou" card, and you're misguided)

Has anybody else noticed this? I felt this within my own family and it was one of the factors that pushed me away from the church. Now I'm not saying if you do this you're going to make everyone turn away from God but I definitely took it into consideration when I gave up. Don't post so fast people stop and think!
 
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Came_to_my_rescue

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Also sorry about having to write in every post that I am no longer a Christian but I don't know how to change my screen name and I don't want some young person to come in and think that because of my screen name I am a Christian, and think that what I say I do in my posts follows the standards God has for his children, and then they may think that they can do what I do too
 
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juliet84

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Hi Came_to_my_rescue,
You dont have to worry about your nickname because usually they will check your profile to know your spiritual status. And yes, I notice this also. I thought of posting something like this also especially in the Bible Discussion forum as it happens alot there. Im always wondering why the hate/dislike/attacking/accusing. Its just sad really. What if someone who first posts a topic has a control to close his/her discussion to avoid a long debating over something as I notice some people might misinterpret his/her intention of the post and this is one of the main reasons of the 'attack'. Would it be better? I thought these are more of discussion forums, not really debate kinds :confused:
 
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Jenesis

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Yes. I just posted about the same thing in the Miscellaneous thread.
 

Dude653

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When people say hateful things in the forums, I just put them in the ignore bin
 

jandian

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A lot of times people talk with the intention of being right and not necessarily to minister to each other. I am really sorry we helped push you away instead of draw you closer......All the best
 
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Ugly

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A lot of the problem is the Bible Forum. That section is one of the most mean and vicious forums of any 'Christian' forum site i've ever been to. I've yet to figure out why the so called 'moderators' allow the entire forums to be brought down by the constant stream of trash that comes out of there, but apparently they don't mind it happening and the effect its having on the rest of the site.
 
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It is most unfortunate that people feel repression from other peoples doctrines and what have you in any of these forums whether it be from misinterpreted comments or just outlandish nonsense which for some of the constituents here may be taking as offensive main thing to remember here is "turn the other cheek" Some people are not as savvy when it comes to social graces. and none of us are perfect. However a healthy debate is good for you it might open your mind up to concepts that you hadn;t thought of before diversity truly is a blessing.

Peace and Love to you all

corripiens iridis manet
 
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babarainbowsheep

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Thats one of the reasons I dont go to church.
I love jesus and am born again christian and pray deeply and truly but it does not mean I agree or support or want to be part of behaviours all christians have.Christians have tortured innocent in jesus name and done many bad things.Its not all good.
When I went to church they belittled me so theeeeey felt empowered and spoke to me like I was something..
Not my kinda churchin anyway

I chose to light candles in church and love God and pray in other ways.
maybe one day I can be in union with others of same religion also in churches.
Have felt it spiritually like out at cafe etc I just know someone is with Jesus and we have a connection and understanding no words needed..
Ive been sad being , feeling so alone always cause also moved so much and had many experiences so dont have social friends etc .
Church is supposed to be welcoming, supportive, understanding, non judgemental & hateful, a loving caring environment not a powerkick for those who missuse it.
 
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A lot of the problem is the Bible Forum. That section is one of the most mean and vicious forums of any 'Christian' forum site i've ever been to. I've yet to figure out why the so called 'moderators' allow the entire forums to be brought down by the constant stream of trash that comes out of there, but apparently they don't mind it happening and the effect its having on the rest of the site.
I think they allow it because it generates traffic/activity. The more traffic/activity a site has, the more valuable it is to advertisers and advertising is the lifeblood of most free websites.
 
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Thats one of the reasons I dont go to church.
I love jesus and am born again christian and pray deeply and truly but it does not mean I agree or support or want to be part of behaviours all christians have.Christians have tortured innocent in jesus name and done many bad things.Its not all good.
When I went to church they belittled me so theeeeey felt empowered and spoke to me like I was something..
Not my kinda churchin anyway

I chose to light candles in church and love God and pray in other ways.
maybe one day I can be in union with others of same religion also in churches.
Have felt it spiritually like out at cafe etc I just know someone is with Jesus and we have a connection and understanding no words needed..
Ive been sad being , feeling so alone always cause also moved so much and had many experiences so dont have social friends etc .
Church is supposed to be welcoming, supportive, understanding, non judgemental & hateful, a loving caring environment not a powerkick for those who missuse it.
I think you should keep looking for a good church, Victoria. It makes me sad that you were shunned that way by your church. Shame on those people! I think that there is a good church out there waiting for you.
 
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For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you (Romans 12:3).

Do i always keep the mind set of a servant, absolutely not! Just as some of our Lords disciples argued, who would be on his left, who would be on his right. If they argued this, what makes us any different? Our Lord shows no favorites. And we should be thankful for that. So it really don't hurt us to remain with a servants heart. What better place to be is being a servant to our Lord, not only in action. But from our hearts, as well.

Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper worship. Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.
Humble Service in the Body of Christ

For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you. For just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, so in Christ we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others. We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. If your gift is prophesying, then prophesy in accordance with your faith; if it is serving, then serve; if it is teaching, then teach; if it is to encourage, then give encouragement; if it is giving, then give generously; if it is to lead, do it diligently; if it is to show mercy, do it cheerfully.
 
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AnandaHya

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I think they allow it because it generates traffic/activity. The more traffic/activity a site has, the more valuable it is to advertisers and advertising is the lifeblood of most free websites.
only problem with that theory is that this site does not have advertisers and is not supported by advertising...
 
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AnandaHya

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Contentious Forums - Reported Posts - Mod Intervention - The lowdown
There seems to be an increase in reported posts from the forum, and there seems to be an increase in perceived turmoil in the forums too.

Due to this, I want to take a bit to explain a few things.

1. What happens with reported posts.
2. How turmoil is handled.
3. Moderator involvement and intervention.

1. What happens when someone reports a post?

All moderators receive knowledge of the reported post. We are able to review it and make a decision.

2. How is turmoil handled?

If we notice turmoil or have it reported to us, we deal with it based on a certain standard, at least in most circumstances. Here's the criteria we apply most of the time when we have to delete a post or deal with a person.

A post/person is most likely to be dealt with if it has gross error or heresy. If it's simply someone expressing their view on some side issue or quirky doctrinal thing, we'll usually let it stand.

Also, if someone is making personal attacks, we'll most likely step in and deal with it.

We're not going to step in because someone isn't agreeing with you and you're upset with it. If that is the situation, just step away and calm down.

Also, if someone makes a statement such as, "Jews who don't believe in Jesus are not saved", we're not going to consider it anti-semitic hate speech. We get reports on this stuff ever so often.

3. Moderator involvement and intervention.

We've decided to limit moderator intervention to the things listed above, in most circumstances.

Some people, in the heat of the moment, will contact a moderator, and act like they want more moderator intervention in heated discussions in the forums. Although these calls for more intervention are said with good intentions, I can pretty much guarantee people would be upset if moderators intervened as much as some claim they want us to intervene.

I know in chat, when moderators have tried to be more aggressive in our intervention during discussion of Bible topics, often people will be annoyed and act as if they fear stating their opinion, due to a moderator stepping in. I can only imagine what would happen in the forums.

We're trying our best to balance freedom to discuss, with the reality that mods do need to intervene from time to time.

If someone is preaching gross error, or heresy, or if they are truly personally attacking you, then please report the post. But if someone is not agreeing with you and you're upset with it, then step away and cool your jets.

We could be more aggressive in fighting the perceived turmoil/contention in the forums, but that would result in tighter constraints on opinions expressed. I think the balance we have now is the preferable choice. Plus some people get upset when we do step in, I can only imagine what would happen if we had a heavier footprint than we do now.

Oh yeah, and all spam should be reported. Thanks!

(This post makes no claim to being 100% comprehensive on all the intricacies moderators face in making decisions. It's just to give you a general sense of how we deal with issues. In other words, there may be some stuff I left out.)
 
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AnandaHya

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perhaps reading the announcements might be beneficial to answering some of you questions?
 
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Ugly

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Actually, i have read that. So, not a wise presumption.
And i still feel the same. I can get the point of that, but what i see going on in the bible forum, in my opinion, is just plain out of line. This isn't a case of a couple people getting heated in a thread and moving on eventually. This is a group who are dominating an entire section of the forum with constant criticisms, meanness, harshness, judgment, condemnation, personal attacks.. questioning peoples salvation. I think that stepping in and doing something about that doesn't quite fit into the 'don't want to over police' concept.
 
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Actually, i have read that. So, not a wise presumption.
And i still feel the same. I can get the point of that, but what i see going on in the bible forum, in my opinion, is just plain out of line. This isn't a case of a couple people getting heated in a thread and moving on eventually. This is a group who are dominating an entire section of the forum with constant criticisms, meanness, harshness, judgment, condemnation, personal attacks.. questioning peoples salvation. I think that stepping in and doing something about that doesn't quite fit into the 'don't want to over police' concept.

I agree with Ugly!​
 

Dude653

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Actually, i have read that. So, not a wise presumption.
And i still feel the same. I can get the point of that, but what i see going on in the bible forum, in my opinion, is just plain out of line. This isn't a case of a couple people getting heated in a thread and moving on eventually. This is a group who are dominating an entire section of the forum with constant criticisms, meanness, harshness, judgment, condemnation, personal attacks.. questioning peoples salvation. I think that stepping in and doing something about that doesn't quite fit into the 'don't want to over police' concept.
one word....Ignore
 
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Thats one of the reasons I dont go to church.
I love jesus and am born again christian and pray deeply and truly but it does not mean I agree or support or want to be part of behaviours all christians have.Christians have tortured innocent in jesus name and done many bad things.Its not all good.
When I went to church they belittled me so theeeeey felt empowered and spoke to me like I was something..
Not my kinda churchin anyway

I chose to light candles in church and love God and pray in other ways.
maybe one day I can be in union with others of same religion also in churches.
Have felt it spiritually like out at cafe etc I just know someone is with Jesus and we have a connection and understanding no words needed..
Ive been sad being , feeling so alone always cause also moved so much and had many experiences so dont have social friends etc .
Church is supposed to be welcoming, supportive, understanding, non judgemental & hateful, a loving caring environment not a powerkick for those who missuse it.
Well in some of what you say there is truth indeed but true Christians never tortured anyone only those who claim to be Christain for if they were true Christains they would be incapable of such atrocities. You are right when you said that they claim to have done these things in Jesus name but as surely as I type to you now I tell you those people DID NOT KNOW our Lord. They acted on their own recognisence with alternative motives NOT OUR LORDS motives in mind and so far as going to church did Jesus not preach from atop the mount or from a boat in the sea of Galilee. Be of good cheer and do not be discouraged by those who seek to place themselves above others for we shall all recieve our own reward according to our works.
SELAH SELAH SELAH

corripiens iridis manet
 
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AnandaHya

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i don't know I think they have been warned and you can tell when a mod has warned them because for a few days they act nice and try to behave and then something happens and they seem to forget or their emotions get the better of them.

I just see it as strongly passionate people with radically different views who want to express their opinions in inappropiate ways and result to ad hominem attacks because they have run out of logical arguments to defend their position and are to prideful to just walk away or admit they were wrong and apologize.

if you were a mod what would you suggest happen?

perhaps you can report post and suggest it to them if you think people are getting out of line.

I think it would be nice if we actually discussed Bible verses in the Bible discussion forum.