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malkia

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My dear friends in Christ...

I live in Tanzania,in the Eastern Part of Africa on the region known as Arusha.Two months ago,we got an information that an old man in a remote village called Loliondo who happens to be a pastor had a medicine that can cure chronic diseases such as HIV/AIDS,Cancer,Tuberculosis,Asthma and many more.
As most of you might be aware, we are among the poorest countries in the world and among the highly rated countries with HIV/AIDS cases and as its the case with AIDS many AIDS patients gets cancer and tuberculosis......we have a lot of people who can not afford to pay for their medical services and the medicines are not available in most hospitals....

Now,this pastor told people that God through a dream showed him a tree,and in that dream directed him to boil the roots of that tree and give it to people with different diseases and they will be healed....God also showed him that everyone should only contribute 500shs,which is less than one dollar and affordable to poorest in this country and no matter how rich you are,you can only give him that,and he said half of it is for the church,some for orphans the rest he is still waiting for God to direct him on how to use it.

We have people from different parts of the world who have taken it,only one cup and have tested negative from diseases such as HIV/AIDS,cancer,High Blood Pressure and High Blood Sugar and many chronic diseases.....and some have not....the pastor told people its your faith that HEALS you,if you do not have faith do not waste your time,he heals people from any type of religion not only Christians...and intead of receiving large amount of money he encourages each one to go and help the poor and those in need......

Strange part.....this pastor has the ability to identify witch people and those who have been infecting people with AIDS intentionally. He told one person that had history of infecting people with HIV/AIDS that you will die in three days and HE IS DEAD.....also one witch person (as you know here people kill others,and do strange things to others through witches) after drinking that medicine confessed to him,then became crazy and also died.

Its a long story.......as we are talking someone else had the same dream in a different part and some people claim they have been healed.....this is not the first time in history of this nation that all these is happening.......where this man live is far far away,no good roads,people still use herbs,no hospitals and only few schools with few students as people from that village do not go to school,do not know the president or even the name of their region and can not communicate well with others and most of them pray in one mountain known as the mountain of GOD...

a lot of people still doubt this old man,would you believe him and that its God that is working through him if you were sick?would you take your relative/parent/friends to him?
 
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madona

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i`m sure that it`s GOD who is working through this old man and yes i would go to him and take anyone
but he must be telling the truth and not lieing
and i have a question :did u mean that people who had faith were really healed ?
if it`s yes then i think it`s God`s work
GOD BLESS
 
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malkia

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Madona, Yes people who had faith were healed....

the strange part of this pastor is he can only heal when around his home,so everybody has to follow him where he is,you can imagine some people are dying before getting to have that cup from him( he must give you himself,so it might take three days to a week on the traffic to see him,lots of people waiting),if he moves to another place that medicine does not work,if you boil that root personally it does not work and some say its poisonous it can even kill but when he does it,it heals within minutes if you have faith....

GOD BLESS!!
 
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AnandaHya

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I believe that God works miracles, but I would not take my family or loved one to him. I would pray for God to heal them and ask the man for a sample of the root to run test on and identify if it has any medical value, like aspirin was developed from willow bark. If it is nature and science can replicate it then we would have to pray and see where it went from there. God can heal whoever and however He wants. Jesus healed with a word, some mud and some water. I never read in the Bible about roots or medicine. Either it is of the material world or it is of the spiritual. If it is a material world thing then, i would go the route of scientific inquiry. IF it is a spiritual thing I would test the old man to make sure he wasn't being used by demons to obtain worship and power for the forces of darkness before placing my trust in the healings. It would depend on what type of man he was and if he lived as a Christian, and it was not just for show and self impowerment. It would depend on if he gave glory to God or the root.

I will keep you and your fellow countrymen in my prayers.

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malkia

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I believe that God works miracles, but I would not take my family or loved one to him. I would pray for God to heal them and ask the man for a sample of the root to run test on and identify if it has any medical value, like aspirin was developed from willow bark. If it is nature and science can replicate it then we would have to pray and see where it went from there. God can heal whoever and however He wants. Jesus healed with a word, some mud and some water. I never read in the Bible about roots or medicine. Either it is of the material world or it is of the spiritual. If it is a material world thing then, i would go the route of scientific inquiry. IF it is a spiritual thing I would test the old man to make sure he wasn't being used by demons to obtain worship and power for the forces of darkness before placing my trust in the healings. It would depend on what type of man he was and if he lived as a Christian, and it was not just for show and self impowerment. It would depend on if he gave glory to God or the root.

I will keep you and your fellow countrymen in my prayers.

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Thank you dear

This is a man of GOD, he is chose to travel far away to that remote village to spread the word of GOD when everyone else refused....there is no communication,no roads and its far far away. Those who knows him and especially the church are encouraging people to go and now even the governments is prptecting him and building roads.In everything he glorofies GOD and encourage those who drink to glorify God and that its not him that heals but Jesus Christ. The scientic experiment is yet to be confirmed,the government tried to stop this to do scientific experiment they failed because people say all this has to do with faith and not science.....Just pray for us,to have faith and take our loved ones, still scared!!! GOD BLESS!
 

shemaiah

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My father was a missionary before God instructed Him to start a bible college. He knows that stuff all too well, and used to tell me stories of such. I would not take His medicine coz its not biblical, i have been raised to only accept doctrine of the bible, and there is no where in the bible where such a thing ever happened.
The other reason why i do not trust him is because it seems the emphasis is on the 'roots' around his 'house'. Such a thing happened in an area my dad was preaching in and dad. I have never seen such coz now we're in a whole different environment.
But do not be afraid, coz greater is He who is in you that he who is in the world.
 
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Ramon

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Thank you dear

This is a man of GOD, he is chose to travel far away to that remote village to spread the word of GOD when everyone else refused....there is no communication,no roads and its far far away. Those who knows him and especially the church are encouraging people to go and now even the governments is prptecting him and building roads.In everything he glorofies GOD and encourage those who drink to glorify God and that its not him that heals but Jesus Christ. The scientic experiment is yet to be confirmed,the government tried to stop this to do scientific experiment they failed because people say all this has to do with faith and not science.....Just pray for us,to have faith and take our loved ones, still scared!!! GOD BLESS!
Something sounds very off about this malkia. Something is not right. Several things are wrong. Why is he taking money for something he did no do, if it is Jesus. And many people do lying wonders using Jesus's name. Be cautious my sister, before you go to this man. Please.

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Have you heard of root working? Root working is a demonic practice. This is what it reminded me of, although root working may be something else, but this is what I thought of. May Jesus keep you.
 
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wolfywolfs

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they story maybe be true becuase of these things . 1 the human body can heal itself from most things like cancer but its extremly rare to happen which is why we take medcine to help the human body fight it of. 2. if the people really belive the medcine work then they them selfs will feel better but in reality they are still sick there are many sotry similar to yours like healing hands or some1 who can cumminate directly to god and perform miracles but the reality is they are lies. now with the money part well every1 needs to make money somehow that the reality of this world
 
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GreenNnice

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Wolfyswolf, you waid the human body can heal itself, and, yes, this is true but for cancer, a cut on the finger, ANYTHING, please keep knowing: God is in fontrol. In other words, if you do get a cut in the arm, if it is God's will you will die. All those people in Japan were not bad people, some christians, vergood christians tooo, died. Tsunami took them and whether God did it or allowed Satan to unleash this horror on Sendai, God was and is in control. We can do nothing without God, and that includes 'live'. Please remember to pray for Japan, ask God if there is anything you can do. Don't worry either, listen, for He will always speak to us, His timing, but He will.
 
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malkia

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My father was a missionary before God instructed Him to start a bible college. He knows that stuff all too well, and used to tell me stories of such. I would not take His medicine coz its not biblical, i have been raised to only accept doctrine of the bible, and there is no where in the bible where such a thing ever happened.
The other reason why i do not trust him is because it seems the emphasis is on the 'roots' around his 'house'. Such a thing happened in an area my dad was preaching in and dad. I have never seen such coz now we're in a whole different environment.
But do not be afraid, coz greater is He who is in you that he who is in the world.
Do you think miracles should happen the same ways that they happened as we are told in the Bible? about the roots, the roots according to research are found in different places in the world and including Europe but they did do the miracles done when this man gives it to a patient....people who are close to him say,he wakes up in the morning pray,boil it and then pray again with them and then gives the medicine.....should this be the reason for us to believe him???

Its hard when you have relatives who have bn sick for long time and you hear people get healed not to go, we are scared because some patients are unconscious and we have to make decision on their behalf and we want just to be sure we are making the right decision.....i do not know what to do,to let them die while we hear of healing in a nearby place or take a risk and take them there?
 
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malkia

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Something sounds very off about this malkia. Something is not right. Several things are wrong. Why is he taking money for something he did no do, if it is Jesus. And many people do lying wonders using Jesus's name. Be cautious my sister, before you go to this man. Please.

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Have you heard of root working? Root working is a demonic practice. This is what it reminded me of, although root working may be something else, but this is what I thought of. May Jesus keep you.
Thank you for the information about roots working is a demonic practice, its a bad news to me because i have been treated with them since childhood and most of the people in least developed countries still use roots.....what scares us with this Reverend is that the roots is using is used by people in his village at the edge of arrows that they use to hunt....its poisonous and when that arrow hits a person,he never survives.....but people drink it and are healed.......and for us who have the grace to be christian, we are asking ourselves if this is a Godly miracle or not because of the circumstance surrounding the whole process.

sorry about my english,its not my language so am not very good,i hope you understand!
 
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malkia

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they story maybe be true becuase of these things . 1 the human body can heal itself from most things like cancer but its extremly rare to happen which is why we take medcine to help the human body fight it of. 2. if the people really belive the medcine work then they them selfs will feel better but in reality they are still sick there are many sotry similar to yours like healing hands or some1 who can cumminate directly to god and perform miracles but the reality is they are lies. now with the money part well every1 needs to make money somehow that the reality of this world
As i have said previously,what he is taking can not make this man rich,and he said two days that he has not used any of the money he got from people who used his services......its very little Wolfy....he refuses money from people who wants to give him more....lots of rich people from different parts have been healed,some offerd to build him a house,he refused,he wants nothing more than 500tshs which is like a cent in USD.....

Some people thought they have been healed after taking the drink but after some time went to test and the virus we still there.....thats why this whole thing is difficult!!!
 
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wolfywolfs

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As i have said previously,what he is taking can not make this man rich,and he said two days that he has not used any of the money he got from people who used his services......its very little Wolfy....he refuses money from people who wants to give him more....lots of rich people from different parts have been healed,some offerd to build him a house,he refused,he wants nothing more than 500tshs which is like a cent in USD.....

Some people thought they have been healed after taking the drink but after some time went to test and the virus we still there.....thats why this whole thing is difficult!!!
i didnt say it was to make him a rich man all i stated was every1 needs money for what ever reason hence why hes not doing it for free i never saidf it was a bad thing i just thats the reality of this world
 
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Ramon

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Thank you for the information about roots working is a demonic practice, its a bad news to me because i have been treated with them since childhood and most of the people in least developed countries still use roots.....what scares us with this Reverend is that the roots is using is used by people in his village at the edge of arrows that they use to hunt....its poisonous and when that arrow hits a person,he never survives.....but people drink it and are healed.......and for us who have the grace to be christian, we are asking ourselves if this is a Godly miracle or not because of the circumstance surrounding the whole process.

sorry about my english,its not my language so am not very good,i hope you understand!
My friend, this may offend some people when I say this. But anyone who looks to any source of healing other than Jesus Christ himself, might perhaps be involved in that same demonic practice. Here in America things are not so obvious as pertaining to the carnal mind. In many other countries the manifestations of evil are obvious, in wars, pestilence, hunger, plague, witchcraft, and so many other things. However, as pertaining to the mind of the Spirit this country might be worse off than these other countries, or maybe in the same predicament. You see, this country is suffering from manifestation of evil, wars, pestilence, hunger, plague, witchcraft and so many other things also, but HOW is internally. It is the hearts of the people that has waxed gross. I have seen it. And it will not be long before these things are also made manifest in THIS country. UNLESS THEY REPENT!

A lot of people in this country partake in demonic practice by trusting doctors to heal. They are engaged in the same demonic practices. Although they might say doctors are good, at the same time they deny the healing power of God, who is the only one who is good. When I see people going to people for answers, before they go to God, then that is obvious enough that they lack faith and a revelation of the truth of the Kingdom of God. Yes, they even neglect Jesus Christ in their attempt to heal themselves. Be careful. May Jesus bless you.
 
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malkia

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i didnt say it was to make him a rich man all i stated was every1 needs money for what ever reason hence why hes not doing it for free i never saidf it was a bad thing i just thats the reality of this world
am sorry,i misunderstood you.....Blessings!
 
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malkia

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My friend, this may offend some people when I say this. But anyone who looks to any source of healing other than Jesus Christ himself, might perhaps be involved in that same demonic practice. Here in America things are not so obvious as pertaining to the carnal mind. In many other countries the manifestations of evil are obvious, in wars, pestilence, hunger, plague, witchcraft, and so many other things. However, as pertaining to the mind of the Spirit this country might be worse off than these other countries, or maybe in the same predicament. You see, this country is suffering from manifestation of evil, wars, pestilence, hunger, plague, witchcraft and so many other things also, but HOW is internally. It is the hearts of the people that has waxed gross. I have seen it. And it will not be long before these things are also made manifest in THIS country. UNLESS THEY REPENT!

A lot of people in this country partake in demonic practice by trusting doctors to heal. They are engaged in the same demonic practices. Although they might say doctors are good, at the same time they deny the healing power of God, who is the only one who is good. When I see people going to people for answers, before they go to God, then that is obvious enough that they lack faith and a revelation of the truth of the Kingdom of God. Yes, they even neglect Jesus Christ in their attempt to heal themselves. Be careful. May Jesus bless you.
I will be careful Ramon,its good i shared this with you people here at least i can make a good decision for my family members! May God kindly Bless you too!
 
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redu

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Thank you for the information about roots working is a demonic practice, its a bad news to me because i have been treated with them since childhood and most of the people in least developed countries still use roots.....what scares us with this Reverend is that the roots is using is used by people in his village at the edge of arrows that they use to hunt....its poisonous and when that arrow hits a person,he never survives.....but people drink it and are healed.......and for us who have the grace to be christian, we are asking ourselves if this is a Godly miracle or not because of the circumstance surrounding the whole process.

sorry about my english,its not my language so am not very good,i hope you understand!

Greetings Malkia!

Hope all is blessed with you.

Just want to add my 2 cents....

I'm not sure your stance or view on the Book of Enoch and its validity or application for christians...but in the Book of Enoch (from what i've read) it mentions that one of the Fallen Angels "Semjaza" taught men enchantments and root-cuttings...

So based off of that knowledge from the Book of Enoch coupled with some of the other things people in this forum pointed out...I would be very Wary and Cautious of this man. And let the holy spirit guide you. I will pray for you and all of your people.

God bless