i just thought i would point this out here at the end,,,,,,,and these are from my own studies over the years,,that is i was always in great hope that i would see some of you breaking down word for word the Greek text used around the ,,,,,,"mark",,,but they always instead lead to a discussion about "rfid",which is fine i do believe rfid and the number we already have will one day "tie together",,that is it easier to use a calculator than a piece of scratch paper,,and so it will be easier for them to track the numbers in our forhead with rfid than for us all to "just keep them in our forehead",,,,,,if for one reason or another the computers all crash,,,,who would know if you were giving them the correct "pin number in your forehead",so it makes sense for them one day to be able to just wave a wand across your forehead and say,"oh,,,your name is number 4309",,,,,,,,,and unlock all your "pin numbers in your forehead",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,now this all said i will go back to my first speech on the matter which is of "Greek meaning to these certain words surrounding the mark",,,,,,,,,,,,,that is "chi-xi-stigma",,,,,,,,,but most important(and often missed),,,,,,the use of the wording around it,""causeth",,,number 4160 of the strongs as it it used in rev.13;16,,,,,,,which is (poieo'),,,,,,which is mostly translated "caused,causeth,,ect.",,,,,,,,in the definition you will find the words "make you",,,but to get a deeper meaning to this word we should see other wording surrounding the "mark" as in the word 1325 strongs which is rendered "receive" which comes from the Greek word "did-o-mee",,,,,,so it means "he for a given reason presents it to you and you decide to receive it,,take it",,,,,,,but it does not by any means mean that you were held down by soldiers and a Dr. put it in you by force,,,,,,it means you took it of your own free will,,,,,,,now on to strongs 2983,,(lam-ban-o) as used in the scr. of rev. 2;17and rev.14;11,"received",,,,and here again you find the past tense word used for recieving a thing offered to you,,,,,,,,"received",,and Christ himself gives a better meaning to the word in rev.2;17 that is "no man knoweth save he that received it" that is "no one could have it unless it was presented by the son and you took it",,,,,,you "received it",,, and again it was not by force,,,,,,,,so in rev. 14;11 you received it "that is the mark",,,,,,,,,it was presented to you and you willfully took it,,,,,,,,,"again not by force",,,,,,,,,,and then to the rest of the wording used in rev. to denote the "mark",,,,,rev.2;27,,,,,rev.3;5,,,,,rev. 17;12,,,,rev.19;20,,,,rev. 20;4,,,,,,,,,,which are all derived from the interpretation of strongs 2983,,,,again "lam-ban-o",received,,,,you took it,,,,,but not by force,,,that is to say and as so far this is every scripture in the book of rev. that discusses "someone receiving a mark",,,and never once does it sway from the fact that you "willfully accept it",,,and that it is never "forced upon you",,,,,,now some would beg to differ in what i said,that is they will say "you will be killed for not taking it"(the mark that is),,,,,,,,which comes from rev.13;15,but notice he never says you will be killed for the mark he says ,"cause,,(Greek word,4160 poieo'),,that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed",,,,,,,,,then in verse 16 of rev. (notice he separates the two things spoken of),he states that he "causeth all"rev.13;16,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,to receive a mark,,,,,,,,,,,but notice the "penalty for not worshiping the image is different than not recieving the mark",,,,that is the penalty for not worrisiping the image is death rev.13;15,,,,,,,,,,,but the penalty for not recieving the mark is "not to be able to buy sell and eat",,,rev.13;17,,,,,,,,,,,,"the two horned beast",,,,,,,,,,,,,if mankind realized there are "two things" that are written in rev. 13 about the two horned beast,,,,,,,,,,,,they would see "two separate thing that are written of this beast",,,,,one is the "image",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the other is "the mark",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you cannot see the mark if you mix it together with the image,,,,,,,,,,,,you cannot see the image if you combine it with the mark,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,believe Christ rev. 13;16,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"and",,,he separated the two things he told you the two horned beast would do",,,,,,,,,,,,petert,,,,,,,,,greennice,,,,,,,,i would put an post for this specific purpose,,,,,,,rev 13;18,,,,,,,,that is to look at the exact wording,,,,,,,that is he that has wisdom,,,,,,,is not calculating the name of the beast(the booger man),,,,,,,,,,,,he is coming up with his own name(and his number is),,,,,,,,,,the same as rev.2;17(Christ is giving them a name),,,,,,,,,,,,,,the beast is letting them (come up with another pin number in their fore head),,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,instead of the one Christ is giving them,,,,,,,,rev, 2;17,,,,,,,,i am an ignorant man i would to "copy and paste this post and begin a new discussion on this matter",,,,,,but i am unlearned on the matter of the computers,,,,,,,,,so if you paste this post and begin another discussion of the mark i will not be offended if you copy it and post it there"and at no time if you look deep at the wording surronding the mark will you find ,,,,,,,,,,,"it being forced upon any-one",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,they "recieve it",,,,,,,they come up with the "pin number in their fore-head",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and it is the number of their name and then they can buy sell and eat,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"i am in the midst of loving you",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,