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Tell me, did Daniel fight the battle or was it the angel? Daniel was probably unawares of this battle ever taking place. Daniel 9, 10 and 11
hehe yes Maggie thanks for that, portals are in scripture. But are they the same meaning as they are used today? Well of course! Why wouldn't they? God changes not! I mean I've heard things about spiritual portals or something turning clockwise or anti clockwise and depending upon which way they turn, determines whether they are from God or from satan. I haven't heard about this. But here's the deal. GOD is the creater of all. It is satan that steals and imitates the kingdom of Heaven, not the other way around. That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about. The use of portals in scripture, is simply a door or opening to heaven. The way the new agers use spiritual portals, seems different, and eastern religions too. This is true. But their doors do not open into heaven. I don't think I'd want to go through their doors….especially not knowing where it leads to!
Some elements of Christianity have borrowed these concepts from the new agers, and believe them to be fact , where the bible speaks nothing about it. THIS IS WRONG!! It is the new agers that have stolen from Christianity and the Bible!! Satan imitates!
This knowledge comes from satan in the first place Maggie, not from God No, it comes from the Tree of knowledge rather than the tree of Life. I am no expert but I believe God wants us to listen to the Spirit and use discernment of spirits how can you DISCERN an evil spirit if you can not recognize it by how it acts?? You can't! and the Word of God. But if there is scripture where any of the apostles or christians consulted Simon the sorcerer or anyone else, to learn of their ways and the nature of the spiritual realm and how it "works", please quote the verses. I know of only Acts 19:18 "18Many also of those who had believed kept coming, confessing and disclosing their practices. Here is evidence of those formerly in the occult TELLING WHAT THEY DID OR HAD DONE. Scripture tells us to confess our sins one to another. This is a commandment from God. Who are any of us to say that the info that comes forth cannot be used AGAINST our adversary? If God uses the confessions of those formerly in sin to alert us to the devils wiles and devices, it IS HIM allowing it. If we were not to know any of the workings…the wiles of the devil, we would not have access to it at all. It would be written that learning of these things is evil and sin, but that is not the case. Scripture does tells us that our knowledge of HIIM should be MORE than that of the devil.
Personally, I never read anything on deliverance or demons unless I've first read several chapters in the Word of God.
Maggie
hehe yes Maggie thanks for that, portals are in scripture. But are they the same meaning as they are used today? Well of course! Why wouldn't they? God changes not! I mean I've heard things about spiritual portals or something turning clockwise or anti clockwise and depending upon which way they turn, determines whether they are from God or from satan. I haven't heard about this. But here's the deal. GOD is the creater of all. It is satan that steals and imitates the kingdom of Heaven, not the other way around. That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about. The use of portals in scripture, is simply a door or opening to heaven. The way the new agers use spiritual portals, seems different, and eastern religions too. This is true. But their doors do not open into heaven. I don't think I'd want to go through their doors….especially not knowing where it leads to!
Some elements of Christianity have borrowed these concepts from the new agers, and believe them to be fact , where the bible speaks nothing about it. THIS IS WRONG!! It is the new agers that have stolen from Christianity and the Bible!! Satan imitates!
This knowledge comes from satan in the first place Maggie, not from God No, it comes from the Tree of knowledge rather than the tree of Life. I am no expert but I believe God wants us to listen to the Spirit and use discernment of spirits how can you DISCERN an evil spirit if you can not recognize it by how it acts?? You can't! and the Word of God. But if there is scripture where any of the apostles or christians consulted Simon the sorcerer or anyone else, to learn of their ways and the nature of the spiritual realm and how it "works", please quote the verses. I know of only Acts 19:18 "18Many also of those who had believed kept coming, confessing and disclosing their practices. Here is evidence of those formerly in the occult TELLING WHAT THEY DID OR HAD DONE. Scripture tells us to confess our sins one to another. This is a commandment from God. Who are any of us to say that the info that comes forth cannot be used AGAINST our adversary? If God uses the confessions of those formerly in sin to alert us to the devils wiles and devices, it IS HIM allowing it. If we were not to know any of the workings…the wiles of the devil, we would not have access to it at all. It would be written that learning of these things is evil and sin, but that is not the case. Scripture does tells us that our knowledge of HIIM should be MORE than that of the devil.
Personally, I never read anything on deliverance or demons unless I've first read several chapters in the Word of God.
Maggie