Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant. 2Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led. 3Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.4Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. 6And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. 7But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. 8For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 9To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; 10To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: 11But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.Many Members, One Body12For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. 13For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.14For the body is not one member, but many. 15If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 16And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 17If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling? 18But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him. 19And if they were all one member, where were the body? 20But now are they many members, yet but one body. 21And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you. 22Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary: 23And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness. 24For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked: 25That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another. 26And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.27Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.Spiritual Gifts28And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. 29Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? 30Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?31But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
If someone would not mind, could you please expound chapter 12 keeping in mind Paul's work as an overseer of the BODY in his care. In this particular CHURCH at corinth, these had come out of many pagan practices.
With that said, please explain what Paul is wanting these "members" to see prior to proecceding on to Chapter 13, which talks specifically about LOVE dictating all things, and then Chapter 14 which speaks to the Church at Corinth with regards ONLY to the gift of tongues...with and without an interpreter...and the importance of one who speaks in a tongue to be able to "prophecy" (that is, able to explain what he/she is saying).
I would like to understand how one comes away believing Paul is encouraging the body to speak in tongues when there isn't even one person to interpret what is being said.
well again I think you have chosen not to see the full context of the three chapters 1n 12, 13, and 14.
1Cor 12 Paul says in verse 1 "
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regardless of the pagan up bringing they were not pagan they were Christians . Paul could have addressed pagan practices which he did in verse 2 "[/FONT][FONT=arial, helvetica, sans serif]
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this is not the case because Paul says " were " not "are". then he goes on to explain some very important discernment prior to speaking on the "Gifts of the Holy Spirit which is the subject in 1cor chapter 12,13, and 14 .
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Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
[FONT=arial, helvetica, sans serif] This sets the precedence for everything else person speaking in tongues says Jesus is not God Bingo not of the Holy Spirit not a gift of God . needs to be quite and be corrected.
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he is speaking to Christians.
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I would like to understand how one comes away believing Paul is encouraging the body to speak in tongues when there isn't even one person to interpret what is being said."
tongues is a gift recorded with the other gifts in chapter 12. no where in 12 does Paul say not to speak in tongue .
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in context to an interpretation Paul instructs verse :13 [/FONT]
Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
:27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.
;28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.
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so your answer if there is no interpretation Paul said they are to be silent. and if they do speak they are to pray that they may interpret and that will handle the issue of the concern of no interpretation. that is what the verses say.[/FONT]