Iran Holds 10 US Sailors

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On January 6, Iran unveiled a new underground missile cache.
The video shows Emad precision-guided missiles lining the depot walls.
These particular missiles can be guided from launch to detonation and are capable
of carrying a nuclear payload.

They violate a 2010 United Nations Security Council resolution, indicating
that Iran should be in line for some new sanctions.

Iran knows it is violating the UN treaties and knows that the missile program draws
the ire of many in the international community. So why did Iran reveal the facility?

Iran knows it can wave its missile program in the face of President Barack Obama
and the international community and it will generate little response.

Iran knows that President Obama wants to see the nuclear deal fulfilled more
than anyone. He isn’t going to let Iran’s missile program derail the linchpin of his
foreign-policy “successes.” So if there were ever a time to reveal more of its arsenal
and attempt to legitimize it, now is that time.

Iran has ensured the safety of the missile tests and facilities by framing
the program as both separate to and inclusive with the nuclear program.

Every time President Obama pretends not to see the illegal missiles, the missile
program is legitimized, little by little. When Iran gets away with a missile test,
or secret missile bunkers are revealed with no consequence, it ensures that next
time the violation will be easier to ignore. And the time after that will be even easier.

In the end, why even bother sanctioning the program?

Iran knows that Mr. Obama is so close to his cherished deal being fulfilled that he will choose
appeasement over confrontation every time. If Iran wants to make its missile program appear
legitimate, now is the time to show it off—while the U.S. frets over the nuclear pact.

So if you were Iran today, you would be trying to expand your missile program as much
as possible before the nuclear deal is finished. That is exactly what we are seeing happen!

After the U.S. threatened more sanctions, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani ordered his minister
of defense to ensure that the armed forces “quickly and significantly increase their missile capability.”
He went further, threatening even more missile programs if the U.S. continues its “illegitimate
interference with Iran’s right to defend itself.”
Defiant Iran pledges to ramp up missile program, in challenge for Obama | Reuters


Iran is not interested in de-escalation. It is pushing the program as much as it can while it has
this window of immunity. That window closes once the nuclear deal is enacted.
 
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p_rehbein

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Do you think they were previously instructed to act so sheepishly if detained or is that just that group of 10?
I do not know for sure, but IMO, they were following the SOP laid out by their Commanders concerning Rules of Engagement with the Iranian Navy. That being said however, they did not have to bow down and cower as they did, nor did they have to accept the insulting treatment of one of their fellow Sailors (the lone female) as they did.

If it comes out that they were not following SOP from their Commanders, but actually acted this way on their own, as their Commander, I would seriously consider Courts Martial charges against them. At the very least, Non-Judicial punishment.
 

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the U.S. No Longer Considers Iran and Hezbollah as ‘Global Terrorism’ Threats
back in February 2015


No United States government official or agency has ever publicly stated that
Iran and Hezbollah are not threats to the United States, but.....

The Office of the Director of National Intelligence (odni)—the principal administrator
of the 17-member U.S. Intelligence Community, which includes the State Department,
the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Department of Homeland Security, the National
Security Agency, the Central Intelligence Agency and the Federal Bureau of Investigation

—has, for example, always said that Iran and Hezbollah posed threats to the U.S.

The odni, however, made controversial headlines about what it chose not to say about
Iran and Hezbollah in its February 26 “Statement for the Record Worldwide Threat
Assessment of the U.S. Intelligence Community.”
http://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Unclassified_2015_ATA_SFR_-_SASC_FINAL.pdf

All the directors of National Intelligence, from Bush-nominated John Negroponte
(2005-2007) and J. Michael McConnell (2007-2008), to Obama-nominated Dennis Blair
(2009-2010) and James Clapper (2010-present), have said that Iran and Hezbollah are
threats to the United States.


Clapper’s annual reports from 2011 to 2014 condemned Iran in the reports’ “Terrorism”
sections. Hezbollah was also included in that section in Clapper’s 2014 report. However,
both Iran and Hezbollah are conspicuously absent from the “Terrorism” section of
this year’s threat assessment report.
http://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Unclassified_2015_ATA_SFR_-_SASC_FINAL.pdf


Even though the report has a lot of negative assessments of Iran, it has some
uncharacteristically positive comments. It mentions how Iraq’s military, Peshmerga
fighters and Shiite militants—“bolstered by air and artillery strikes, weapons and
advice from the United States, Arab and Western allies, and Iran—have prevented
[the Islamic State] from gaining large swaths of additional territory”
(emphasis added throughout).

Hezbollah

Even though odni spokesman Brian Hale said that “Hezbollah and Iran are still a
threat,” James Clapper’s 2015 report mentions Iran’s Lebanon-based terrorist proxy,
Hezbollah, only once—as a victim of “terrorist groups, including the al-Nusrah Front
and [the Islamic State].”

It’s not a small thing to completely omit that Hezbollah, is an instrument of “Iran’s
foreign policy and its ability to project power in Iraq, Syria and beyond,” as the Defense
Intelligence Agency reported on the same day the odni produced its assessment.
Statement for the Record: Worldwide Threat Assessment > Defense Intelligence Agency > Article View


Hezbollah has never apologized or repented of its actions, yet it was not mentioned
in any negative light in the odni report. Hezbollah has deluded and eluded security
authorities across the globe to the extent that it took Europe 30 years to decide that
the terrorist organization was indeed a terrorist organization.



Still, some of these same nations only apply that designation to Hezbollah’s military
wing—but not its political wing—a wing Hezbollah itself does not claim to have.
https://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20100811_hezbollah_radical_rational

Today, we see the United States changing its tone toward Iran and Hezbollah,
legitimizing Hezbollah, desperately negotiating a nuclear deal with Iran,
and forsaking Israel—its most loyal ally in the Middle East—in the process.


The U.S.’s move to declassify Iran and Hezbollah as terrorist threats
will only lead to more terror.
 

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the U.S. No Longer Considers Iran and Hezbollah as ‘Global Terrorism’ Threats
back in February .


Today, we see the United States changing its tone toward Iran and Hezbollah,
legitimizing Hezbollah, desperately negotiating a nuclear deal with Iran,
and forsaking Israel—its most loyal ally in the Middle East—in the process.


The U.S.’s move to declassify Iran and Hezbollah as terrorist threats
will only lead to more terror.
Maybe they also think if you legalize drugs it will lead to less drug abuse :rolleyes:
 

crossnote

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The sheepish behaviour of the sailors just before the 4 released men in Iran...smelling like a...

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p_rehbein

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Heard a report yesterday that the Sailors had been briefed by someone in Washington PRIOR to their appearing in the video......would love to know WHO briefed them and WHAT they were told to do/say.
 

crossnote

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Heard a report yesterday that the Sailors had been briefed by someone in Washington PRIOR to their appearing in the video......would love to know WHO briefed them and WHAT they were told to do/say.
Probably a short brief...by Ms Clinton saying, "Guys, remember Benghazi".:p
 

p_rehbein

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Notice how there is nothing but "crickets" now?
 

p_rehbein

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FNC reporting that Iran took the Sim Cards out of the Sailors cell phones............Boy, someone is gonna have a HUGE bill next month.......
 

Oncefallen

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FNC reporting that Iran took the Sim Cards out of the Sailors cell phones............Boy, someone is gonna have a HUGE bill next month.......
Unless I'm mistake, the sim cards taken were from US Navy owned satellite phones, not personal cell phones.
 

p_rehbein

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Unless I'm mistake, the sim cards taken were from US Navy owned satellite phones, not personal cell phones.
Hmm...........maybe, I did not hear that distinction..........not much said about it since though.