When people say that the group they disagree with believes such and such when that group doesn't believe it at all. Then that person who created the straw man will spend hours refuting what the other person never said or believes in the first place.
Happens alot here.
I just want to know what the real issue is.
I think the real issue is...the desire within us to gather more than enough manna for the day.
Israel did this even though they were told not to. I think the real motive for this desire is to have a feeling of security APART from God. I guess you could say there s mistrust there. Like, yes, but what if He doesn't come through for me tomorrow? IF He doesn't, I'll need to fend for myself.
It seems like this is why the debate rages on - but if He is good, and merciful, beyond our ability to understand, why is it necessary to gather eternal salvation to ourselves and...grab and grub and demand that it must be ours no matter what we might do in the future? He IS the life and the salvation, every day He is. There is no life other than abiding in Him.
If we would trust Him for the next days provision, there is no need to gather more than enough for the day.
I just have this suspicion that we want to know we have salvation even apart from Him. But that is ridiculous, isn't it...?
If we abide, all things that are His are ours.
How could it GET more secure than that?
And why would you ever need to grab at a salvation status that is a possesion of your own even if you do not continue to abide unless...your plan was in fact to commit some rebellion?