Marriage advice. Please help me.

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MissCris

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I do, but not in the same way I did when we got married. I still have romantic feelings, but he doesn't give me the butterfly-in-my-stomach feeling.
That "butterflies in the stomach" feeling has less to do with the kind of love that makes a marriage last, and more to do with what gets a marriage going in the first place.

I feel really kind of confused/conflicted about all of the information you've given regarding this situation, I'm just going to keep an eye on how this all unfolds for now...
 
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It is time for change. I have no authority in this field but I don't think this situation is going to change on its own. This is a hazardous relationship. He is threatening you physically and emotionally at a time when you need protection and support. He needs to find somewhere else to stay right now. You need things to remain as normal as possible so I'd recommend he leave. There needs to be a healing process and he needs to make the decision whether he's a husband and father or a "player" and abuser. Sometimes people need adversity to grow and he needs some growth. Resist the guilt he will pile on you. Resist the anger and the insults. Find peace in GOD. It doesn't have to be forever but it does need to be right now.
 
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kenisyes

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I do, but not in the same way I did when we got married. I still have romantic feelings, but he doesn't give me the butterfly-in-my-stomach feeling.
If he did, that would be cause for some worry. The "butterflies in the stomach feeling" is what you get when you are new. Love in the real world consists of commitment day by day, to each other and to those children. You both need to focus on realities amd bringing God's plan into them, not on pleasant feelings. Jesus did not go to the cross because it "felt good". The feelings will come, but they will be way deeper, and will last a lifetime, but you have to DO love in the reality of life before you can HAVE love that will last throughout a life.
 
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It sounds like your husband thinks that you have 0 respect for him. From your actions it is understandable why he would think that. Husbands need Respect from their wives. They crave it. just like wives crave romantic love from their husbands. That is why God commands husbands to love their wives and for wives to respect their husbands. You have disrespected him and it has broken him. A husband that is being shown respect will love his wife. In return a wife that is shown love will show her husband respect. You are stuck in a never ending circle. He wont give you the love you want til you show him the respect he needs and visa versa. He is also trying to hurt you as much as you have hurt him. He sees that you have gone to other men to seek confort and fulfil sexual desires. In his mind he was never good enough for you so he has given up trying. You see him seeking the same things from other women now and you in return feel undesirable and unloved.

But God can heal and mend if you allow him to. Allow God to change your heart. Focus on the ways you need to change instead of the way your husband needs to change. Pray for him and respect him even though he may not deserve it. We do not deserve Gods love or grace but He offers it freely. Do the same. The only thing you can control is yourself. It is going to be hard and it will take a long long time. But do not give up. God did not give up on you.

I do not think it is ok for your husband to force you to do anything you do not want to do or are ready for. However, it is understandable why he has done these things. You need to realize the extent of the damage you have cause in his heart. It may never fully heal and truthfully, you will deal with this the rest of your life. These actions will also reflect in your childrens future relationships as well. Also there will be temptaions in the future. The Devil wants you to fail. But God is bigger than this so lean on Him.
 
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I have been married for a while, and it has been a rocky relationship, I believe, thanks to me. When my husband and I first started dating almost 5 years ago, I cheated on him. I regret doing it. When the affair happened, my oldest daughter was conceived. I love her with all my heart. Until about two years ago, the guilt finally left. I was able to move on. We became married after she was born. My husband and I had to split for several months after a massive fight back in 2011. We got back together after thanksgiving and worked everything out. In July of 2012, I became pregnant with my second child. She is now three weeks old. During my pregnancy, I made another big mistake - I cheated again. This time, it was due to emotional loneliness. Right after I got pregnant, he started playing video games. I didn't mind them at first, but then it got to be him wanting to play them every single night for hours on end. The time he would spend with me wouldn't equal up to the video game. Time with me was an hour each night, and the time with the game was over 4 hours. I was very lonely. I read, watched movies, tried to keep myself busy. Nothing worked. I was trying to tell a friend of mine what was going on, and he suggested I cone over the next day and talk in person. I did that, and I wish I didn't. Yes, he was there for me, but that was the day I cheated for the second time. I was so ashamed that I kept it a secret. It happened two days before Halloween. My husband found out right on Thanksgiving. He decided to snoop through my emails and then demanded my phone. I confessed. We fought for two days. No matter how many times I said I was sorry, swore I would never do it again, made promises that I have faithfully kept, he is still hanging this over my head. He will not live it down. He has also been very emotionally abusive to me since. He said he has fallen out of love with me, called me names, sexually abused me in a way, and is now making comments about my weight and how my body looks. I just gave birth three weeks ago. I'm not going to look like a super model any time soon. He has asked me a few times when am I going to the gym and when I'm going to start dieting. Two months after he found out, I thought we were on our way to repairing the relationship. Nope. Turns out it was the complete opposite. He was on dating sites, looking for different women and asking if they would be interested in him and if he should get rid of me. I made him get off it. He was also texting a prostitute he found through Craigslist. One month later, he created a new email just so he could have private conversations with women and get on another dating site. He finally deleted the dating site one week before the baby was born. But then I found out he was looking at other women's naked pictures and porn every night for three weeks on his phone without me knowing it. He has stopped. But in the past week, I have wondered if he is going to stray just because I cannot have sex until my postpartum check up. He has forced sex and made me perform oral several times. I'm wondering if this relationship is worth it. I have remained faithful since. I have been to counseling, church, prayed night and day. I'm not sure what else. to do anymore. I am a Christian. I have repented and been baptized. My husband is agnostic.
To be honest, When I read this I wanted to say something really mean and offensive, that was my first thought. And that's not a nice thing. But I've had this happen to me, and to have it happen twice is like a kick in the nuts the first time and then cutting them off the second.

It is a horrendous feeling for a man in a relationship to be cheated on.

We don't get 'talk time' with the guys the same way women do. We get teased and that's men's way of showing each other up, goading each other to 'man up' and not care so much about it. Cause when we do, we seem weak to women in a way. And when we don't care, it means women don't have power over us.

You're husband's irreverence is nothing more than him trying to take away your emotional power over him; because he's so used to you abusing it.

Your husband's response to your infedelity, twice-infidelity, might I add, is to try to hurt you back. He's going on porn sites and texting people, making you jealous and hurting and demeaning you; because that's exactly how you've made him feel.

You went into another man's space, took off your clothes and had the most intimate experience a man and a woman can have together, with someone who isn't the man who loves you.

I don't particularly know what it feels like for a woman; but let me give you insight into how it felt for me.

It felt like I wasn't good enough, initially. I questioned everything about myself. It shattered my self esteem to bits to think my woman chose someone else over me. And it's more than just an emotional thing, it's primal.

When you chose another man to sleep with rather than your husband, you were subconsciously saying 'I don't want your children, I'd rather have someone else's'. Your seed isn't good enough for me. You aren't a worthy man.

And you conceived, and your husband is trying to bring up a child, that you conceived through cheating. A child that isn't his. A child that every day might remind him of how much you rejected him.

You can say 'well he didn't give me what I need', but that just doesn't cut it.

My father once said to me, 'sometimes it isn't about what you get in a relationship, or how good someone else treats you. That's the shallow way to look at things. Sometimes it's about how much you're willing to give. Ask yourself son, what do YOU bring to the table? What do YOU give to HER?

And I'm gonna say the same thing to you. What do you give to your husband?

Because the only thing I've read in your paragraph is a list of reasons why you cheated, twice. And a list of reasons why you really have to TRY to be faithful.
 
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As well as that, don't expect to be forgiven. And don't expect to live it down. You've shattered him, and it's gonna take more than two months before he feels anything like a man again.

He'll take his sweet time about it; but if you let him, it'll all be a lot smoother than trying to force the whole forgiveness process. You need to own up to the fact that you owe him a great debt.

He's still with you. And he's bringing up another man's child.

To be quite honest, the guy's doing pretty well on a scale of whose-got-the-better-morals as far as I'm concerned, if you want to look at your relationship as a competition.

If not, then understand how he feels. Don't push him. Imagine how you'd like to be treated if it was him that had cheated on you, and then act on it. Don't expect instant results, but if it's worth saving, then you'll be able to persevere with it.
 
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And if that seemed harsh, imagine I've sat beside you and said it in the softest tone I can muster. Because that's how I meant it.

I hope it works out for you. It isn't easy carrying guilt, but it's there for a reason.
 
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I'd just like to add. There is a sentiment about marriage that I've heard often, what makes a successful one.

It's when two people are going towards the goal of making the other person happy. When one falls over, the other gives even more to bring them back.

Your husband probably still loves you very, very deeply. That's evident in the fact that he's still around. But he's burying that away under snideness and nastiness because he can't allow you to know that anymore. He can't put himself out to you the way he used to because he's afraid of being hurt, and there are no amount of words or pleases or sorrys or pleading that can change that.

The only thing that's going to help is a long period of time where you don't expect him to act like he loves you but are still willing to give. That's the simple truth I've learnt.

Anytime I've hurt someone deeply, they have not acted as though they loved me, and sometimes for a very long time. They just can't, it hurts them too much.

that's why you give love instead of asking for it; because you have control over the giving and you can give as much as you desire to give. The question is, can you keep it up?
 
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He'll bring you to understand how much pain you've caused him, and when he's done that, and you feel it too, then he knows you're really ready to say sorry. You can't be truly sorry for hurting him until you understand how it felt.

Does that make sense?

We can say 'sorry', because we want everything to be back to normal, we just want to 'forget', but why should you be allowed that pleasure when he isn't? He can't forget it.

If you are 'one flesh' as they say, then it's only fair that you experience what he does.

The only thing he can do is either;

1. Say it's fine, hide it under the surface and feel detached, or
2. Allow you to experience what he experienced.

That doesn't mean that he will cheat, it just means he'll bring you to a point where you feel as demeaned and hopeless, restless and tormented as he did. And when you get to that point he'll throw water on your burning tongue and have you back with open arms and a clean slate.

Much like God does when we are bad 'wives'.
 
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Sorry I keep posting. But I have a lot to say about this.

The thing is, if you accept this. If you say 'I understand your pain, and I want to experience how it felt, because that's fairness (how may people say that??)', then you might find your husband saying 'That's all I really want from you. That commitment to really be 'together' with me on everything.

Because you've obviously been very apart from him for a long time.

Make sense?

Who knows.