Hey CS1, you're misusing Hebrews 4:16 by putting emphasis on obtaining mercy and grace and disregarding the purpose of such mercy and grace. It specifically says "to help in time of need" and not to obtain forgiveness of sin. It is to resist sin, to walk in victory, and ultimately, when temptation presents itself the Lord will give you the escape.
1 Corinthians 10:13 King James Version (KJV)
13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
If you back up to verse 15 (in Hebrews 4), you'll notice temptation is in mind.
Hebrews 4:15 King James Version (KJV)
15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
Hence, such mercy and grace is not for the sake of forgiveness but to escape temptation, to bear it, and come out on top.
1 Corinthians 10:13 King James Version (KJV)
13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
If you back up to verse 15 (in Hebrews 4), you'll notice temptation is in mind.
Hebrews 4:15 King James Version (KJV)
15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
Hence, such mercy and grace is not for the sake of forgiveness but to escape temptation, to bear it, and come out on top.
really? Ok the time of need when is that my friend? and what is Mercy for and grace ?
and what does obtained mean ? in the Greek the word is lambanō which means: to take hold of,to take upon one's self
and you would be right IF you remove " Throne " this is speaking of CHrist that is why the word "charis" for Grace is in this verse.
the Idea one does not have to ask forgiveness is not correct. how can one misuse grace and Mercy in Hebrews 4:16? the application is very Biblical.
the question is " Must Christians Ask For Forgiveness Every Time They Sin?
The answer is yes they do. your understanding 1cor 10:13 i'm not sure what you are getting at.
But, the context to 1cor 13 starts in veres 6 it is a contrast to those mentioned in verses 1-5
we are being told NOT to do these things as those in the wilderness did as God was not well pleased with many of them verse 5. How do I know it is a constrast ? because the word " our examples stated in verse 6 and "Neither " is used in verses 7-10
Neither or do not do, what they did either aka neither.
so if you are instructed not to do then that means you have the ability to do . And if you do ; then need to have mercy and grace do you not?
Now your thought on verse 15 of Hebrews; is speaking of our High Priest who was Tempted not temptation. you use that out of context.
the word temtped is used to discribe OUR HIGH Priest who is without Sin and able to forgive and show mercy and Grace. in the time of need.
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