LOL. The translators are not at fault. They have simply conveyed the intent of the word based on its use. World, earth, or land are the only three possibilities for the use of οἰκουμένη. Which of these three words do you think would fit better? I certainly do not profess to be a scholar but it would seem to me that this would have simply been better translated as population but then again you have the same question, the population of what?
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just thought to add -- "the message" in my opinion is one of the worst things i know of that tries to pass itself off as a "translation" of the scripture.
it is most certainly not about that "message" !
but about the gospel
untold numbers heard and received that message before any of what we call the new testament was ever written down - so it's evident to me that the gospel can be preached and heard accurately in the absence of the written word.
while we are at a disadvantage now in that the first-hand witnesses, the apostles, are not walking among us, we are at a great advantage in having both literacy and the written compilation of their words. it's not something to thumb the nose at, but to be grateful for and cherish.
just thought to add -- "the message" in my opinion is one of the worst things i know of that tries to pass itself off as a "translation" of the scripture.
it is most certainly not about that "message" !
but about the gospel
untold numbers heard and received that message before any of what we call the new testament was ever written down - so it's evident to me that the gospel can be preached and heard accurately in the absence of the written word.
while we are at a disadvantage now in that the first-hand witnesses, the apostles, are not walking among us, we are at a great advantage in having both literacy and the written compilation of their words. it's not something to thumb the nose at, but to be grateful for and cherish.
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just thought to add -- "the message" in my opinion is one of the worst things i know of that tries to pass itself off as a "translation" of the scripture.
it is most certainly not about that "message" !
but about the gospel
untold numbers heard and received that message before any of what we call the new testament was ever written down - so it's evident to me that the gospel can be preached and heard accurately in the absence of the written word.
while we are at a disadvantage now in that the first-hand witnesses, the apostles, are not walking among us, we are at a great advantage in having both literacy and the written compilation of their words. it's not something to thumb the nose at, but to be grateful for and cherish.
Not "The Message" lol.......the message /of the gospel and what Christ came, said and did for mankind dude.
What are you talking about?
Peterson does not own the rights to those two words.
Too literal posthuman.....like all those people who dissect the word "saved".
Oh well.