Obama said he won't pay troops or elderly

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Bookends

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Do you honestly think that out president makes decisions completely on his own. I think he has advisor's on how to brush his teath.....lol
Yeah, true, he does depend on that teleprompter. But hey, he did pick his advisers so they are all like minded.
 
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BarlyGurl

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Social Security and Medicare (two largely elderly entitlements) really need to be cut, if you want to get anything done on the budget problems.
When the well is dry, it's dry.



Jimmy... Social security is not an entitlement for those who worked and paid for it. I am not for Medicare, which is a machine laden with fraud... its alright with me to wipe it out effective immediately. I am entirely FOR closing the Social Security, so that no more taxation will occur and the citizenry will have to thus learn how to rely on themselves and their own ambitions for their future. It sort of looks like there will be a coo of some sort and the entire structure is going to get abruptly augmented anyway... so sooner is better than later IMO. BTW have you seen the grade school socialism experiment?
 
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Graybeard

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Why didn't you just do that... as in take action...solve the problem... be the solution as opposed to making inauspicious remarks??
wow..someone got out the wrong side of bed! and yes I love you too
 
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jimmydiggs

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Why didn't you just do that... as in take action...solve the problem... be the solution as opposed to making inauspicious remarks??
Actually, he has an otherwise legitimate point. This thread doesn't really belong in the bible discussion forum as it was constructed. Not really in the News Forum either. Attaching verses or a news article makes it less irrelevant though.
 
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jimmydiggs

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Social Security and Medicare (two largely elderly entitlements) really need to be cut, if you want to get anything done on the budget problems.
When the well is dry, it's dry.



Jimmy... Social security is not an entitlement for those who worked and paid for it.
It's an entitlement program, whether you pay into it or not. You also don't get your money back, rather someone else pays for you.




BTW have you seen the grade school socialism experiment?
It is a socialist experiment. ;)
 
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Graybeard

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Yep..America is going down...unless it's people repent.
 

know1

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I propose a moderator move it to the appropriate category...what do you propose?

Luk_13:15 The Lord then answered him, and said, Thou hypocrite, doth not each one of you on the sabbath loose his ox or his ass from the stall, and lead him away to watering?

Joh_7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

Any more hairs that need splitting?
 

know1

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Obama said yesterday in a speech, that if the Republicans don't raise the debt ceiling, he won't send out social security checks to the elderly next month, or pay the troops, "and it will be the Republicans fault." !!!
He is using the elderly as leverage to spend more $$ or borrow more $$$ than we have evidently. He just gave a speech a few weeks ago saying that if the republicans would sign the fiscal cliff law, that he would discuss the debt ceiling in January with them !! He lied. He's not discussing anything with anyone. We now have a dictator, who does not yet have full power to be a dictator.
For anyone who doesn't know, social security checks for the elderly, are not "entitlement" checks. Welfare is "entitlement" $. The elderly worked all their life & had money taken out of their check, against their will, & it accumulated interest, & they recieve a check in their old age if they meet certain age etc gudelines, based on their lifetime wages. Like an IRA with no interest. If that amount were an Ira, the elderly would be multimillionaires by now.
The elderly need these checks. They worked all their life for them & earned them.I believe this tells us a lot about our president.
Sorry I thought I put this in the news section.
Thank you for bringing this subject to this forum as I don't go to any of the others.
Has anyone seen the videos of Oboma on youtube? Check some of them out, it was an eye opener for me.
Here's one of them.
The Obama Deception HQ Full length version - YouTube
 
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BarlyGurl

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jimmydiggs... I am again astonished how it is that you are so clearly gifted in intellect, yet fail to perceive the point.
 
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jimmydiggs

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jimmydiggs... I am again astonished how it is that you are so clearly gifted in intellect,

I beg to differ.

yet fail to perceive the point.
You fail to perceive how stupid I am, being a wee human. ;)

None the less..

Yes, one would think SS is not an entitlement program because we are lead to believe you pay it up like a big savings account, but that's not the way it works. Especially due to it being everyone's favorite slushy fund.
 
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Graybeard

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Luk_13:15 The Lord then answered him, and said, Thou hypocrite, doth not each one of you on the sabbath loose his ox or his ass from the stall, and lead him away to watering?

Joh_7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

Any more hairs that need splitting?
:Dha ha....that was funny....but I should not laugh at your abuse of Holy Scripture now should I?
 
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StephenH

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It'll be raised - it always is. We'll grow further and further and debt until the country can't sustain it's existing overflowing mountain of debt.

Tax his land, tax his wage,
Tax his bed in which he lays.
Tax his tractor, tax his mule,
Teach him taxes is the rule.

Tax his cow, tax his goat,
Tax his pants, tax his coat.
Tax his ties, tax his shirts,
Tax his work, tax his dirt.

Tax his chew, tax his smoke,
Teach him taxes are no joke.
Tax his car, tax his grass,
Tax the roads he must pass.

Tax his food, tax his drink,
Tax him if he tries to think.
Tax his sodas, tax his beers,
If he cries, tax his tears.

Tax his bills, tax his gas,
Tax his notes, tax his cash.
Tax him good and let him know
That after taxes, he has no dough.

If he hollers, tax him more,
Tax him until he's good and sore.
Tax his coffin, tax his grave,
Tax the sod in which he lays.

Put these words upon his tomb,
"Taxes drove me to my doom!"
And when he's gone, we can't relax.
They'll still be after the inheritance tax.
 
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webchatter

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Sorry, for the 2nd time. I edited my original posting of this thread quickly & said," Sorry I meant this to be in the news section." I cannot move the thread.
If social security no longer pays out to those who earned it by paying for it, then the elderly & disabled workers who have a mortgage, will lose their homes. I realize this does not concern some people, by their postings. The politicians on both sides are calling it an entitlement.
Why not cut off REAL entitlements of federal $$ given to the states for welfare, to people who have never paid a cent in taxes, never worked a day in their life, & whose main goal in life is to live off the govt? These young, healthy people deserve a free cell phone too? Obamaphones!!! lol.With like 300 minutes free, for life evidently, paid for by the feds.
Why doesn't Obama stop giving 2 Billion dollars a year to Egypt's Muslim brotherhood, the Jihadist, (war),branch of Islam? (he's done this since his 1st yr in office). Why keep sending this money to foreign coiuntries?
I guess Mom & Dad & grandpa & grandma will be moving in with their kids & grandkids in the future. Maybe they will just have to sell their homes & take the profit & rent someplace for a couple years, it won't last long.
Most people who file bankruptcy, do so because medical bills got them behind on their house payment, even if you have health insurance. A few years ago, my husband & I each had insurance on ourselves & each other, through our employers. We had 2 insurance policies, costing us several hundred $ a month, but had to pay $5,000 also, for our share of medical expenses that year alone. This is the main reason the elderly lose their homes now. A friend of mine just lost her home after her husband died of cancer, due to paying medical bills she was being threatened with.
For anyone to suggest that social security is an unearned entitlement & should be done away with, knows nothing of the hardship put on the elderly who paid into it. It seems one would look into saving $ elsewhere. These ss checks have no effect on the federal deficit & are not funded by income taxes.
The fiscal cliff bill that was just signed a few weeks ago had billions of $ in it for Hollywood & a bunch of other BS groups who don't need the $ to begin with.
I believe it is Obama's goal to intentionally destroy/crash the economy of the U.S. He will succeed. It may not happen during his presidency, maybe it won't happen til the next one takes office. If you don't believe this, look at how much money he spent in his time as pres= He spent more than all the presidents combined from Washington through Bush. Now look at who he's been giving it to, & who he's taking it away from. Looking at the facts you'd think he was stupid, but he's not stupid, it's done on purpose.
The best thing that would have helped our economy would have been if Bush, then Obama even more $, would not have bailed out the banks & credit card companies. Millions of people would have been out of debt!!! The middle class & poor would have owned their home outright, with no more mortgage payments & no credit card companies. It would not have cost the feds nearly as much money for the federally protected $ in checking & savings acct at the failed banks. The rich would have lost a bunch of money because only a small percent of their $ was federally protected in those banks ($300,000?). The smaller banks would have gotten bigger, & now millions would not need credit, since they had no mortgage or credit card payments, & possibly no car payment. The object of the game is to keep the rich rich, & get the middle class to be poorer.
With no bail out of banks & credit card companies, the middle class would have started more businesses employing people, paying more taxes & social security, people would have paid off their student loans, bought new cars, & spent more $ as a stimulus for the economy.
 
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BarlyGurl

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Dear Chatter,
You have no reason to apologize... it was a simple mistake that should have been overlooked entirely. I see that you have excellent eyes for what is going on inth socio-economic-political sphere. My concern is that there is a spirit of fear attached to your vision and causing distress for you about YOUR future? I do wish to encourage you to keep your eyes on HIM that he has you in the palm of his hand. IN terms of the general picture... I think a social crisis that causes "families" to start behaving like families and caring for each other vs. the everybody out for themselves society the US has become... well I just think that would be a good thing. THe bible does have a promise... "You and your HOUSEHOLD will be saved"... does that put things in a different perspective?
 
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dashadow

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I guess I shouldn't be surprised that even here you find political nonsense.
 

tribesman

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I guess I shouldn't be surprised that even here you find political nonsense.
Too right. Modern day western christianity is infested with political correctness. People ought to do a search where this originated from. It's NOT from anything close to christianity, this I can guarantee you.
 
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BarlyGurl

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Too right. Modern day western christianity is infested with political correctness. People ought to do a search where this originated from. It's NOT from anything close to christianity, this I can guarantee you.
tribesman... since some of us live in America, it is appropriate to be discussion the socio-polical climate here. Christians are commanded to be in the in the world... NOT of it. Since the location we live in is the USA, we need to be informed of regarding policy... what is being discussed has NOThing to do with POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. Being a Politically Correct American and an American CHristian are not the same... in fact the two are oppositional.