Paul Said Flesh And Blood Cannot Enter Heaven But

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Tintin

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Terry, as a man Jesus had the ability to sin but he didn't fall to temptation.
 

starfield

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The first resurrection has already happened, graves were opened and many came out. I think were getting there, I believe Jesus was incorruptible at birth, he was raised.
The first resurrection occurs in several phases. Jesus' bodily resurrection paved the way for the first resurrection, "But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming" (1 Cor 15:23), and the resurrection of the church-age saints at the rapture (1 Thess 4:16-17), and the resurrection of the tribulation martyrs prior to the millennial reign of Christ (Rev 20:5-6) is yet to come.
 
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kenisyes

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So your saying Jesus flesh at resurrection was different just because he could appear in rooms, this is obviously your own opinion because Jesus made the Apostles touch him and he said....see I am flesh and blood but not a spirit. So I think he was resurrected as normal flesh though he was divine. Elijah was also taken up in the flesh, thats 2 people. Why didnt Paul say except for Jesus
It was flesh, but it was of spiritual origin. Among other things, that means it is eternal.
 
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kenisyes

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So what about Elijah, normal flesh and blood taken up
We do not know that he made it to heaven in that state. If you recall, the various prophet-guilds sent out search parties, in case the whirlwind had dropped him somewhere. It is entirely possible he died in that whirlwind, and was resurrected early, or decayed as a corpse. Moses and Elijah were with Jesus on the mountain. Dt. 34:6 says specifically that Moses was buried, so this appearance on the mountain is possible for someone who actually died and was a corpse.
 
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So special people like Elijah and Moses can enter Paradise regardless of the first resurection of Holy Jesus it is obvious.
 
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When Jesus was resurrected up to heaven from the Mount of Olives I'm sure He put off the flesh and obtained a glorified body before he got to heaven.

The Bible says that the dead shall rise first and then the live will rise to meet Jesus in the air,and so they will forever be with the Lord,but I'm sure they put off the flesh before they get to heaven.
 
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The Scriptures plainly teach that some of Christ’s followers have been called to be joint heirs with him in heaven. (Romans 8:16, 17; 2 Timothy 4:18) Now, if Jesus was “made alive in the spirit,” is it not reasonable that his chosen followers destined for heavenly life would also be resurrected as spirits, with spirit bodies suitable for their new environment? (1 Peter 3:18) If that be true, then their fleshly corpses would not be resurrected.

This is exactly what the apostle Paul explained in discussing their resurrection, answering the question: “How are the dead to be raised up? Yes, with what sort of body are they coming?” (1 Corinthians 15:35) Obviously, if their selfsame fleshly bodies were going to be resurrected, there would be no point to that question. Paul explained, in reply, ‘God gives a body just as it pleases him.’ That principle applies to the resurrection of the dead also. Whereas a person lived and died with a “physical body,” what is raised is a “spiritual body.” So those resurrected to heavenly life will not have their fleshly bodies raised any more than did Jesus, who was resurrected “a lifegiving spirit.” In heaven they will have a spirit body, bearing “the image of the heavenly one.” (1 Corinthians 15:36-49) Paul clinches the point with his next statement: “Flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s kingdom, neither does corruption inherit incorruption.” -1 Corinthians 15:50.

So the Biblical evidence shows that the early Christians understood that their resurrection was not dependent on their body’s being preserved. Rather, it was the enemies of Christianity who erroneously believed that. Regarding second-century opposers who executed Christians, ancient historian Eusebius wrote: “The bodies of the martyrs…were at length burned and reduced to ashes by the wretches, and finally cast into the Rhone [River] …. These things they did as if they were able to overcome God, and destroy their resurrection.” These enemies said: “Now we shall see whether they will rise again.”

God’s actions in connection with Jesus and his joint heirs clearly show that Jehovah is not dependent on a preserved human body in order to resurrect a person. So, in regard to the future earthly resurrection in the New Order, Jehovah will be able to “give to each a body just as it pleases Him.”-1 Corinthians 15:38.