Go ahead, it's an open forum. Like I said imo it's futile to try and convince someone embedded in either camp.
I went full bore in the reformed camp. I was stuck there and embedded. So I have long studied the reformed side.
On the surface of TULIP it isn't all bad, seems good and sounds good. But if one carries each letter out, and studies it to it's logical end. I reject every letter of TULIP and how they are taught in todays reformed churches.
To keep it simple. Everything hinges on their interpretation of predestination and election. so every letter in TULIP needs to be conformed to fit their idea of predestination and election
take total depravity for instance. On the surface, yes. Who would not agree with that? BUT, they are saying total inability to CHOOSE God. God hasn't helped mankind at all. And if a man was drowning and a life preserver was thrown to him,man doesn't have the capacity to grab it and be saved.
And this Total inability to choose God is To protect their sacred cow of election and predestination.
And yes, predestination and election are in the Bible. But neither is salvation. Predestination and election are privileges for believers only, and come AFTER we believe.
I finally found my right pastor teacher and started to learn Grace. What a relief. When I was neck deep in reformed theology I always had an uneasy feeling that the pastor would never talk about predestination to us in Church like he would to us men in a closed room during bible study.