-try seeing it as the final great deception... not just another deception -
Thats exactly what i am saying.
A huge Deception is coming our way.
(with a capital).
This is THE endtime-Deception i believe.
The Ultimate one.The last one.
-not just another deception and battle just to have another one in a literal 1,000 years. -
I totally agree,this is THE endtime deception humans are soon are about to withness.
Simulair things happend before like in the days of Enoch,but i think this one will be much bigger and much more deceptive then ever before.
The ultimate Deception is coming our way,I believe.
And its gonna be huge,massive,I believe.
So like u,I believe this Deception is gonna be the last one humankind will withness.
I said > a < Deception,but i did write it with a capital,for a good reason.
-the Harlot -
Im not sure i understand this word but,i think harlot is the same as the 'whore of babylon' right??
Well,i consider the very possibility that the whore of babylon could actually be an litteral person.
Perhaps even an literal demonic person.Perhaps even an 'female' (fallen) angel even.
Perhaps even an fallen angel looking a lot like mary perhaps??(considering all those mary sightings in South america)
I know this is just speculation,im just thinking out loud here.
And i dont expect people to believe me right a way.
But I do expect u guys to look in on it,to re-study the propecies in the bible.
I do expect u guys to at least consider the possibility of the things i just wrote.
And I do expect,that if u really claim to have an personal relationship with our Lord and saviour Jesus the Christ,then u should ask Him about it.
Ask Him yourselfe about what truth could be in what i just wrote.
I am very positivly convinced,that if u will do this,that u will come to very simulair conclusions.
Ask the Lord guys,im not kidding.
I think that,even IF i am totally far off the truth,the
Lord doesnt blame you for asking Him what truth could be in what i just wrote.
He actually wants that.THATS exactly what this personal relationship with Jesus means,i believe.
He wants us to ask Him about stuff u are not sure of.He wants us to investigate it ourselfe,together with Him.
Thats what I firmly believe.
U know,I never wrote this with the intention to convince all of ya that my scenario is the full endtime scenario.
That was never my goal.
My goal is to make you think about it,and to start a discussion on this subject since i never saw an existing discussion on the subject.
And I figured that I should write a lot of my own opinion on this,and try to describe the endtime-scenario the way I see it right now,just to fuel that discussion.
THATS why i wrote this thread.
Not that u guys should totally take over my opinion,and believe i revealed the end-time-scenario or anything.
No,most defenitly not.
In fact,I think there are still lots of holes in my scenario and proberly some flaws too.
U see,im still in a proccess of finding it out,im not done yet.
And I was actually hoping to find other christians who want to be in this proccess too,who want to see the complete picture about the endtimes.
I dont want to be the only one,i wanna do this together with others.
But the problem is that most others dont take this stuff seriously or just dont wannna talk about this stuff cause it seems to scare them.
So its actually very hard to find other christians to talk with on this subject,but im still hoping to find some,i dont give up.
U know,when i am with christians on wich i believe they are true christians,then i prefere to do the listening rather then the writing,as u have noticed when i am in the chatrooms.
But in this case i saw no other alternative then to open this thread,since nobody talks about or seems to be aware of this stuff going on.
And another reason why im pretty quit in the chatrooms,is because I dont wanna be the one that 'ruins the fun' .
U see,my experience is when i am at dutch chatsites talking with christians,then i am ussually the one that they are gonna blame for bringing up the end-time-subject(not even mentioning planetx or nephilim),for ruining their 'happy talks' .
They ussually prefer their 'happy conversations' rather then hearing anything about us living in the endtimes.
So thats why i try to take a slightly different aproach on this site,and stay pretty quit in the chatrooms.
Because,since i kind of like this site, i dont wanna force this subject into people,because they will blame me for it,at least thats my experience with it.
Anyway,I would just like to say some things to my fellow christian brothers and sisters.
U see,absence of evidence,is not evidence of absence.
U could applie this to the existence of God,but u can also applie this to satans end-Deception wich many dont see coming.
And another thing is that Truth is sometimes much stranger then fiction.
And in the end,i never claim to be able to prove anything;Thats why i want u guys to ask the Lord yourselfe,so He will prove and show it to you Himselfe.I firmly believe that He will,if u would ask Him this kind of stuff.
-One must commit themself and all to Our Lord God, Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior, and live in the Holy Spirit.
I believe that God Our Father will provide all we need.
Our work is to make sure we know Jesus and live his word.-
Well,I agree.
BUT,i also believe that there is a reason why God added the book of revelations in His word.
I believe that there is a good reason why Jesus mentioned the signs on star moon and sun in the endtimes.
I believe that the endtime propecies are also part of Gods word.
I believe also that our worrks here,is not only to just be christian,but also to tell others about His gospel.
And everyone has got an different approach on that.
My approach is by using the endtimes we live in.
I use the endtimes and the scenario i described as an opening to talk about the gospel with non-christians for instance.
Im just an endtime foccussed kind of guy.
I understand that everyone has got an different opinion and taste and vision on this.
But i believe talking about the endtimes is really an christian thing to do,especcially since I believe we live in it right NOW.
I dont think Jesus would blame me for bringing up the subject.
U know,why would there be so many propecies in the bible,left unfilled?
Why would God add so much about it in His word?
I think there is a very good reason for it.
I think God wants to draw us the endtime-scenario,wich is exactly why we have the book of revalations for instance.
Thats what i think at least.
I also think we (true) christians shouldnt be afraid for this scenario.We should believe we are protected no matter what.
In fact,we should be happy hearing this,because it means Jesus return is uphand,it means Jesus will come very soon.
That shouldnt scare yall,it should make yall very happy.
If u are scared for this scenario to happen,then perhaps u arent ready yet to meet Him?
-I think it is more important to also take joy in this beautiful earth and in ministering to the lost and to the down trodden and not being so focused on our fear that we take our eyes off of Christ -
I use the endtime subject to talk about the gospel of Jesus.
I also think the joy of this not so beautifull earth anymore is ,is about to end.
And the joy of this earth,is nothing compared to the joy and beautifullness of the 1000 years empire of peace under king Jesus,wich we are expected to expect.
I also think you misunderstood me,cause i really dont wanna cause fear by using this subject.
I wanna cause hope and expectation of His return in the very near future.
I want u to raise your head and look at the skies,expecting Jesus to return very soon.
If one feels fear cause of this scenario,then perhaps one isnt a real christian with a living expectation of Jesus to return.
If one reads this scenario,one shouldnt fear,but feel its expectation of Jesus return to grow inside him.
Thats what I think.
Of course if u where an atheist,it would be an different story.
But this isnt an atheist chatsite is it?
-so busy stock piling food & other stuff for the tribulation that they ignore the plights of those around-
I agree that stockpilling isnt the first objective in this time.
Although I personally prefer to make some preparations,I still believe the Lord would absolutely protect me if i forgot to make preparations or for whatever other reason could not make the preparations.
I think making preparations and stockpilling all kinds of stuff to go trough the tribulation,is not the first priority.
I totally agree with that.
Of course,I do believe in the rapture of the body of Christ.The rapture of He who holds back,and the temple He lives in.
So that means that i really do not believe we will go trough the tribulation period.
Anyway,we should put our faith in Jesus Christ,and not fearing the times ahead of us.
So I totally agree on that one.
- and my prompting in how to present the gospel to my unbelieving friends from Him.-
We all have a different approach on that.
Mine is more an endtime approach.
I use the end times and my thoughts on that to present the gospel.
But thats just me.We all choose different approaches.
-rather than focusing on fear-
I am not focussing on fear,I am focussing on the expectation of Jesus return.
This expectation should grow,rather then fear.
-because there are no aliens from advanced planets.-
I totally agree,but I believe that these fallen ones,these demons,these 'aliens' ,will make humankind believe this lie that they came from other planets.
Anyway,God bless all of you,may His Spirit fall upon all of you.
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