Sharia Law Belgium: New formed Islamic Party vows to implement Islamic Sharia law

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For those of you who think these Muslims want to live side by side in a neutral secular government, take a look at this.
This is in what most consider a modern Western country.

A new formed Islam Party has vowed to implement Sharia law in Belgium.

Confronting Sharia Law in Belgium :: Gatestone Institute
 

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This sounds like Nuremberg all over again. The Europeans are going to build their case on secular sand.
 

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For those of you who think these Muslims want to live side by side in a neutral secular government, take a look at this.
This is in what most consider a modern Western country.

A new formed Islam Party has vowed to implement Sharia law in Belgium.

Confronting Sharia Law in Belgium :: Gatestone Institute
here's why this is happening:

"Claeys said he believes it is a "big problem" when people who move to Belgium do not respect the separation of Mosque and State, or the equality of men and women and the rule of law. He said: "We should put a stop to this mass immigration of people coming from outside Europe, mainly Islamic countries, of people who cannot and will not adapt to our way of living in Western Europe.""

it's by design.
multiculturalism.

"people who cannot and will not"???

don't let them in!!
that's how it used to be - you were not welcome if you did not agree to assimilate and abide by the Laws of the Land.

it used to be you had to pass a basic test for entry from country to another for citizenship - the language; the history; the LAWS; and to swear allegiance to that country.
it was understood that though traditions and customs and familial ties are basic human needs and rights, separate LAWS and dual citizenships ARE NOT GOOD.

we need to understand why these basic principles for HEALTHY NATIONS were abandoned by "leaders"; coincidentally at the very same time around the world, as we became a "Global Community".

mass immigration without assimilation (minority pressure groups; special interest groups; special discrimination laws) are all WEAPONS OF WAR meant to conquer the host nation.

Britian and other ancient European nations (which really only exist in memory since it's one giant SOVIET bloc now) were told outright decades ago that through immigration and austerity for the brits themselves, the UK culture would be DESTROYED forever, and never able to rise from the ashes.

i do not approve of Islam, i do not approve of separate supra-national interests within nations.
this never should have been allowed.

but FIRST Christianity had to be displaced and erased - we allowed it.

AND - we all agreed (esp in EU) after WW2 to be ashamed of loving our own countries and national identities; and to wear the scarlet letter branding us fascists IF WE BELIEVED IN NATIONALISM (the Sovereignty of Nations, including our own).

so we are all responsible.

my answer: JUST SAY NO!
 
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take Canada-US-Mexico as an example.

for some unfathomable reason, America is UNABLE to seal it's southern border (with Mexico).
result - likely up to 40 MILLION illegal immigrants who will not assimilate; can't or won't learn the national language; take advantage of US bounty through illegal means; become a burden on legal tax paying citizens....about to receive amnesty!

on the other hand, up North, there is a nearly 5000 MILE mutual border between Canada and the US - with VIRTUALLY NO illegal crossings.

so what's the deal?
what's really going on?

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take a look at this "report" from CNN - all insinuation; innuendo - and NO verifiable FACTS. intentionally vague, and for the US Homeland audience....see what it is REALLY saying:

Report: U.S.-Canada border security lacking

February 1, 2011 3:11 p.m. EST

Washington (CNN) -- America's 4,000-mile border with Canada is poorly monitored and riddled with serious security vulnerabilities, according to a federal report released Tuesday.

U.S. authorities are routinely made aware of illegal border crossings along only one-quarter of the country's northern border, the report from the Government Accountability Office noted. Border Patrol agents reported that only 32 of the nearly 4,000 northern border miles in fiscal year 2010 "had reached an acceptable level of security," the report concluded.
At the moment, there is a "high reliance on law enforcement support from outside the border zone," the report stated. It called for the Department of Homeland Security to take on a greater role in coordinating various border control efforts, both to close security gaps and to promote a more efficient use of federal, state, and local resources.

Federal officials have expressed concern that a terrorist border crossing is more likely to come from America's border with Canada -- as opposed to the Mexican border -- due in part to the limited law enforcement presence along the northern boundary. They have also noted a growing presence of Islamic extremists in Canada.

"The numbers speak for themselves," said Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman, the chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.

"These findings should sound a loud alarm... The American people are grossly under-protected along our northern border," Lieberman added. "We've got to work together with our neighbors in Canada to raise our guard. We should at the very least be able to detect all illegal entries from Canada into the U.S. so we can get this information into the hands of law enforcement agencies that are well situated to make the necessary arrests."


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"U.S. authorities are routinely made aware of illegal border crossings along only one-quarter of the country's northern border, the report from the Government Accountability Office noted."

illegal border crossings from which country INTO which country - from ours to the US or the other way around.

At the moment, there is a "high reliance on law enforcement support from outside the border zone,"

you mean police and other authorities...YA...AND..so what. what does that sentence really mean.

a terrorist border crossing

uh....huh...like....can you say FEAR MONGERING

due in part to the limited law enforcement presence along the northern boundary.

no, if this were true, wed look like your border with Mexico!

They have also noted a growing presence of Islamic extremists in Canada.

there it is.

if that were true, WHY ARENT THESE EXTREMISTS ARRESTED AND DEPORTED.

what makes someone an extremist...do we know...isnt that DANGEROUSLY VAGUE LANGUAGE.

and who are these un-named Federal Officials.

"The numbers speak for themselves," said Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman, the chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.

of course - an Israeli Citizen, who runs a Totalitarian Department in America called HOMELAND SECURITY, and calls shots for a country he has not assimliated into, nor sworn allegience to, nor considers his HOMELAND.

"These findings should sound a loud alarm... The American people are grossly under-protected along our northern border,"

fear fear fear fear fear - WHERE NO THREAT exists - be very very afraid America.

Americans are GROSSLY under-protected at our border - NO! we are grossly unprotected from ppl coming from YOUR side!

Lieberman added. "We've got to work together with our neighbors in Canada to raise our guard.

really....just protect your side and we will protect our side. dont tell us what to do!

We should at the very least be able to detect all illegal entries from Canada into the U.S. so we can get this information into the hands of law enforcement agencies that are well situated to make the necessary arrests."

why arent you able to Joe - WE ARE....don`t you have enough spy gear on the borders...sure ya do.
that`s not what this is about - this is about fear mongering and psychological warfare.

PLEASE DONT TELL OUR COUNTRY WHAT TO DO. PROTECT YOUR OWN NTION. PASS YOUR OWN LAWS.
i see you cant do it along your southern border so forget about acting like an expert on OUR BORDER.

we are a Sovereign Nation - we dont want to join with you, we dont want a Global Community. we want our own nation.

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see...thats how i would do it.

you mind you country and we will mind ours. and we will get along fine.:)
 
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take Canada-US-Mexico as an example.

for some unfathomable reason, America is UNABLE to seal it's southern border (with Mexico).
result - likely up to 40 MILLION illegal immigrants who will not assimilate; can't or won't learn the national language; take advantage of US bounty through illegal means; become a burden on legal tax paying citizens....about to receive amnesty!
question: why is the American Government unable and unwilling to seal the southern border?

answer: mass (illegal and legal) immigration without assimilation (= minority pressure groups; special interest groups; special discrimination laws) are all WEAPONS OF WAR meant to conquer the host nation.

this isn't hard, right?

if this were an agenda, we ought to be able to find it recorded in TPTB's plans.

oh....we can.

"Clash of Civilizations"

the whole intent, as the Frankfurt School; Cato Institute; CFR; and others established early on was - they HAD TO eradicate American Christian values and Nationalism, calling these things "Potential Nazism, America's population had the POTENTIAL to become another Nazi State"....so, Mr. President, please grant us the right to all citizen records, grant us the legal right to study the people secretly and to develop NEW POLICY to stop America from raising up another HITLER"

= exactly what you have today.

don't blame this on Muslims. they're doing what they have been encouraged and incited to do.

look closer at your GOVT - take a look at your LAWMAKERS.
 
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This so-called islamic party will never rise to power. Eventhough many muslims are very traditional in Belgium, they will probably not vote on a party like that. Some people in the article of gatestone institute are members of nationalist xenophobic parties, so they just like to frighten people with populistic propaganda. I'm a belgian and trust me, it's not that bad as they say in the article. Nontheless I see the islam as a threat to the world and a brake on the world's progress. In the future it might become a bigger problem. However, immigration is part of today's world. The world becomes smaller so the principle of 'every nation for itself' is outdated.
 

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This so-called islamic party will never rise to power. Eventhough many muslims are very traditional in Belgium, they will probably not vote on a party like that. Some people in the article of gatestone institute are members of nationalist xenophobic parties, so they just like to frighten people with populistic propaganda. I'm a belgian and trust me, it's not that bad as they say in the article.
thank you!
i agree.

Nontheless I see the islam as a threat to the world and a brake on the world's progress. In the future it might become a bigger problem. However, immigration is part of today's world. The world becomes smaller so the principle of 'every nation for itself' is outdated.
this is completely disagree with.
the world is exactly the same size it was when God created it.

the EU was a big mistake. it's the New Soviet Union.
European nations should have said NO.

the EU was Karl Marx's idea.....ONE DOWN....3 more to go.

Islam may be a threat.
but what is Progress? how we all doing?
"progressing?

as far as Islam goes, if we stopped BOMBING Islamic nations, they'd have a place to live that is their own!

when ppl move from one nation to another, they MUST assimilate, as far as national Laws and customs go.
tribal and cultural traditions are wonderful and make up the fabric of the human world.

but this special interest NGO lobbying rubbish is coming from somewhere else.

more on that shortly.
 

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This so-called islamic party will never rise to power. Eventhough many muslims are very traditional in Belgium, they will probably not vote on a party like that. Some people in the article of gatestone institute are members of nationalist xenophobic parties, so they just like to frighten people with populistic propaganda. I'm a belgian and trust me, it's not that bad as they say in the article.
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PURLEEZE.

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EXACTLY 11 YEARS before 9-11-2001

president George H. W. Bush: State of the Union address on 9-11-1990

"We have before us the opportunity to FORGE for ourselves, and for future generations a NEW WORLD ORDER.
A world where the Rule of Law, not the Law of the Jungle, governs the conduct of nations.
When we are successful, and we will be, we have a real chance at this New World Order.
An order in which a credible UNITED NATIONS can use its peace keeping role to fulfill the promise, and vision of the UN's founders."
who's Rule of Law? and what Law? (do we know? uh ya).

wait...what?
the UN is to fulfill a promise?
and what was the vision of the UN's founders?












uh-oh....tingling



exits...........
 
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Uh oh's..Zoney has her lil black ebook of conspiracy theories out.:p
*ducks*
 

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Uh oh's..Zoney has her lil black ebook of conspiracy theories out.:p
*ducks*
The best way to put a stop to it is to address the points raised and give reason why they are false. Whinging from the sideline is not a good look. Just providing some feedback for you.
 

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Unfortunately conspiracy theory label seems to be a bucket for things that have no evidence such as Alien abductions and Elvis still being alive as well as with theories that have evidence to support it. People rather than debate the theories put forward get lazy and feel just terming it as a conspiracy theory is enough.