A relentless Water/Works Heretic has posted in the Eternal Security Debate an off-topic distraction alleging the when Scripture says that the Spirit dwells in a Christian, it is a figure of speech for influence, alleging that IN is not literal.
But his influence theory is weaker than what scripture states.
38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, from within him shall flow rivers of living water. 39 But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believed on him were to receive: for the Spirit was not yet given; because Jesus was not yet glorified. 40 Some of the multitude therefore, when they heard these words, said, This is of a truth the prophet.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may be with you for ever, 17 even the Spirit of truth: whom the world cannot receive; for it beholdeth him not, neither knoweth him: ye know him; for
he abideth with you, and shall be in you. 18 I will not leave you desolate: I come unto you.
There is a clear distinction between what disciples of Christ enjoyed during Christ's earthy ministry and the new dispensation in which all believers would be indwelt by the Spirit of God. The new dispensation has a ministry distinct from the Spirit merely abiding with someone.
Or know ye not that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit which is in you, which ye have from God? and ye are not your own.
BTW, temple here is naus, not merely the temple complex, but the sanctuary into which only priests could enter.
The body of the Christian is a dwelling place for God's Spirit -- this is more profound than mere "influence." We should not defile the Temple of God, as for example, with fornication. A physical body is a habitation for the Spirit.
Now one may speculate on how a non-physical spirit relates to a physical place and claim that the whole idea is figurative. But we are given this truth in this language; thus we should think of it as it is revealed. In speaking of Christ's physical departure from the earth, He predicted the coming of the Spirit & sent the Holy Spirit Himself. The coming of the Spirit & the Spirit's baptism was prophesied in Acts 1 and fulfilled in Acts 2 in the believers there on Pentecost, not just the apostles.
In trying to understand how a water works heretic gets off on this, I am not sure, but I suspect that somehow this "non-literal" canard is related to his objection to recognizing Spirit baptism as it would interfere with his water-works heresy.
For by grace you have been saved through faith . . . not of works lest any fish should boast.
But his influence theory is weaker than what scripture states.
38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, from within him shall flow rivers of living water. 39 But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believed on him were to receive: for the Spirit was not yet given; because Jesus was not yet glorified. 40 Some of the multitude therefore, when they heard these words, said, This is of a truth the prophet.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may be with you for ever, 17 even the Spirit of truth: whom the world cannot receive; for it beholdeth him not, neither knoweth him: ye know him; for
he abideth with you, and shall be in you. 18 I will not leave you desolate: I come unto you.
There is a clear distinction between what disciples of Christ enjoyed during Christ's earthy ministry and the new dispensation in which all believers would be indwelt by the Spirit of God. The new dispensation has a ministry distinct from the Spirit merely abiding with someone.
Or know ye not that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit which is in you, which ye have from God? and ye are not your own.
BTW, temple here is naus, not merely the temple complex, but the sanctuary into which only priests could enter.
The body of the Christian is a dwelling place for God's Spirit -- this is more profound than mere "influence." We should not defile the Temple of God, as for example, with fornication. A physical body is a habitation for the Spirit.
Now one may speculate on how a non-physical spirit relates to a physical place and claim that the whole idea is figurative. But we are given this truth in this language; thus we should think of it as it is revealed. In speaking of Christ's physical departure from the earth, He predicted the coming of the Spirit & sent the Holy Spirit Himself. The coming of the Spirit & the Spirit's baptism was prophesied in Acts 1 and fulfilled in Acts 2 in the believers there on Pentecost, not just the apostles.
In trying to understand how a water works heretic gets off on this, I am not sure, but I suspect that somehow this "non-literal" canard is related to his objection to recognizing Spirit baptism as it would interfere with his water-works heresy.
For by grace you have been saved through faith . . . not of works lest any fish should boast.