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KJV - Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
NIV - Ephesians 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
The KJV makes it seems as if we wrestle with rulership. The word 'principalities' is explained at wikipedia. I do not understand 'powers', and rulers of the darkness of this world could be internet highjackers or the marketers who put sex in front of Christians all the time or the corruption/unjust legislation from an judicial office. Spiritual wickedness in high places could be the spiritual dimension of a corrupt politician, or a president that vetoes or creates bills meant to exploit the ignorance of peoples.
The NIV makes it seem more spiritual..rulers, authorities, powres of this dark world, and even mentions the spiritual dynamic (spiritual forces).
Does anyone know Greek and can tell us the spirit and letter of the original Greek? I'm perplexed as to what we wrestle with. The easy answer is spirits, but in the spiritual dimension...are they (most) not subject to Christ. The Bible says demons fear God and shudder.
I have a theory that we wrestle against the Pelosi's, Obama's, Blogajeviches whose ignorance, folly, and sometimes corruption can change the spiritual dynamic of a city. We wrestle against godless men not submitted to the Cross, yet who preach in churches. We wrestle with authorities (Peter said who bare the sword - COPS/Military (I think)) who are corrupt and accept bribes.
Give me input, between the two versions, there has to be a truth about what we war with.
Sam
NIV - Ephesians 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
The KJV makes it seems as if we wrestle with rulership. The word 'principalities' is explained at wikipedia. I do not understand 'powers', and rulers of the darkness of this world could be internet highjackers or the marketers who put sex in front of Christians all the time or the corruption/unjust legislation from an judicial office. Spiritual wickedness in high places could be the spiritual dimension of a corrupt politician, or a president that vetoes or creates bills meant to exploit the ignorance of peoples.
The NIV makes it seem more spiritual..rulers, authorities, powres of this dark world, and even mentions the spiritual dynamic (spiritual forces).
Does anyone know Greek and can tell us the spirit and letter of the original Greek? I'm perplexed as to what we wrestle with. The easy answer is spirits, but in the spiritual dimension...are they (most) not subject to Christ. The Bible says demons fear God and shudder.
I have a theory that we wrestle against the Pelosi's, Obama's, Blogajeviches whose ignorance, folly, and sometimes corruption can change the spiritual dynamic of a city. We wrestle against godless men not submitted to the Cross, yet who preach in churches. We wrestle with authorities (Peter said who bare the sword - COPS/Military (I think)) who are corrupt and accept bribes.
Give me input, between the two versions, there has to be a truth about what we war with.
Sam