Who would you prefer?

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Goobywooby

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With the discussion about sex/kissing before marriage in previous threads, what type of person would you prefer? Someone who has slept around in the past but is sorry and repentant for what they have done or someone who is still a virgin and is saving their first kiss until and marriage but is quite proud of it and looks down on others who aren't like this. Which one would God prefer?
 

seoulsearch

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This is an excellent question and tough to answer. Seeing as I have a few mistakes in my own past, including a marriage that did not work out, I don't want to judge anyone.

People around me (non-Christians) see that I'm living life as a single person and often ask me very personal (sometimes crude) questions... I'm open about my life and have nothing to hide... but they often make fun of me because they tell me I should be out at the bars, looking for a man (which has NEVER been my style or way of life at all--I'm like a natural-born non-partyer--allergic to alcohol, hate smoke, and am a natural-born morning person, so late nights aren't really my thing...) They laugh because I'm not living the way other singles are or doing the things with their time that they're choosing to do... but I answer their questions because I purposely want them to know that yes, it's hard, and yes, I struggle, and yes, I make mistakes, but there are choices and you can choose to live differently if you want to.

I have to be honest though in that if I am meant to marry again, I have asked God for someone who is honest with me as well and has not been with more people than I have. I know we all make mistakes and I'm not trying to judge anyone (I can hear it now, someone will say, "Oh, so you think you're better than someone else who supposedly made more mistakes than you did???!!") and no, that's not it at all. It's just something on my heart.

I applaud anyone who has changed their life around. But I meet Christian guys my age... and they'll tell me they've been with, say 14, 20, and counting people... (I'm not making up those numbers--they are actual quotes from guys I've met, and that's on the low side) and I could never see myself with them because I'd feel like someone standing in line at a deli counter: "Now serving number 27! Last call for number 27!" I would feel very insecure and would constantly be asking questions such as, "Am I are pretty as number 16? What about number 21? Do I kiss any better or as well as number 24?"

At the same time, I've been married so obviously my slate isn't blank either... someone who had not been with anyone probably would not be interested in me romantically because of that. But I do think it's perfectly healthy (and a person's right) to hope for a virgin if that's what's on your heart, especially when the person hoping for a virgin has waited all that time too.

I don't think looking down on others is a Godly attitude at all, but you can find this in anyone, virgin or not, and while we shouldn't judge, criticize, or cut down others for their pasts or choices, I do think it's perfectly acceptable to ask God for someone who is a virgin or perhaps has a similar background as your own while maintaining a Godly attitude of loving and blessing other people along the way.
 
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MusicalMe

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#3
"There's a saying that goes: 'People who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones.' Ok... how about: 'Nobody should throw stones'? That's crappy behavior. My policy is: 'No stone throwing, regardless of housing situation'." -- Demetri Martin
 
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princesakristina

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If someone has turned their life around and decided to live a pure life from here on out and have been forgiven by God...then who are we as Christians, the body of Christ, to judge and not do the same?. I think saving sex for marriage is a wonderful thing, I'm not saying it isn't in any way shape or form. But, so many times I think too much emphasis is placed on virginity. I mean isn't there so much more to a marriage partner than the status of their sexuality? I, personally, rate character, personality, interests and goals so much higher than whether or not they're a virgin. And if you met that perfect soulmate for you, would you really suddenly not be interested if you found out that they had been sexually active in the past?? I certainly hope not, but then again, who am I to judge?
 

seoulsearch

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If someone has turned their life around and decided to live a pure life from here on out and have been forgiven by God...then who are we as Christians, the body of Christ, to judge and not do the same?. I think saving sex for marriage is a wonderful thing, I'm not saying it isn't in any way shape or form. But, so many times I think too much emphasis is placed on virginity. I mean isn't there so much more to a marriage partner than the status of their sexuality? I, personally, rate character, personality, interests and goals so much higher than whether or not they're a virgin. And if you met that perfect soulmate for you, would you really suddenly not be interested if you found out that they had been sexually active in the past?? I certainly hope not, but then again, who am I to judge?

I think Princesakristina makes some excellent points... but I do think we are allowed to tell God what we may or may not be comfortable with and that's all right--after all, virgins, I would guess, are fairly rare these days (from what I know in talking honestly with people) and if everyone wanted only a virgin, there are probably a good majority of us who would die off without every marrying.

I'm not asking for a virgin in particular (but I certainly wouldn't look down on one if that's what God had for me) but for myself, I would not be comfortable with someone who has a vast history of partners, depending on their situation. I guess it may also stem from the fact that I'm a little older, so the guys I've met tend to have histories with bigger numbers than say, someone who is 24.

It really would depend on the situation though. For example, I was once dating a guy who had notes and study comments written all over his Bible (it was obvious he studied it very well, and often), as well as being able to quote Bible passages right and left in addition. He was raised in church and could really "talk the game."

However, he didn't go to church, wasn't plugged into any outside Christian support network... and told me that sex was the biggest weakness in his own personal life. He'd lived in many places... and had always sought out the underground world in each place out of "curiosity"--sex clubs, sadomasochism, prostitution, etc. (And I'm not meaning to shock anyone here, this is the truth--I'm hoping others will learn from my naivete and stupidity.)

He claimed he had changed his life around (but yet, as I said, he wasn't interested in being part of a Christian network--that should have been a huge red flag right there for me, because addictions are not conquered alone, but I was younger and more willing to believe back then.) So... I decided, who am I to judge? We dated for a few months... he would say things like, "C'mon, you know you want to marry me," and would talk about it frequently.

Then I found a letter he had written (long story, but I do think it was God showing me his heart) to a girl he worked with... let's just say... he was meeting me for dinner that night, and then in two days... was meeting with this girl so that he could carry out the other areas of his life he claimed to be reformed in.

I have just learned to be careful, pray, pray, pray, and seek Christian guidance in any major decision regarding relationships.
 
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Narn

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I would prefer someone who has not slept around but is aware of the real world.
I have run into a lot of girls that they are so wrapped in church, that they have no idea how evil the world is and do not appreciate a guy who is not sleeping around or reading porno or so on and so forth.
 
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Goobywooby

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I think we as christians and myself included worry about labels and stereotypes rather than the heart of a person. My inspiration for writing this thread comes from

Luke 18:9-14 (New International Version)


The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector

9To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else, Jesus told this parable: 10"Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11The Pharisee stood up and prayed about[a] himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.'
13"But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, 'God, have mercy on me, a sinner.' 14"I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."


As we humans we compare ourselves to others and give labels and judge but God looks at the heart and the person who is justified is someone who humbles himself and repents. I often feel closer to God when I visit the prison and the prisoner shares with me how they are sorry and what God is doing through their lives and what he is teaching them than going to church with most people playing church.

So yeah maybe we should stuff the labels such as virgin or non virgin, rich, poor, theif, disabled or whatever and look at the heart like God does.
 

seoulsearch

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I would prefer someone who has not slept around but is aware of the real world.
I have run into a lot of girls that they are so wrapped in church, that they have no idea how evil the world is and do not appreciate a guy who is not sleeping around or reading porno or so on and so forth.

A guy who is not sleeping around or into porn and is following God with all his heart is my DREAM man. We have a few (not many, but one or two) young guys like this where I work, and I try my best to always encourage them... because the other guys make fun of them. I always tell them, you stick to your guns and don't change who you are because someday, there is going to be a girl who is going to love you all the more and appreciate you for it.


I think there is a line between being judgmental (which is wrong), and using good judgment (which is what God encourages in His Word.)
 
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cjoyfully

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I've been thinking I might want to meet someone that doesn't even own a computer because so many men even professiong to Christinanity are into watching porn and that is something I will not live with, it is a deal breaker for me. The ones doing it say all men do and I say no just the men that are say that. all you have to do is look at their history on their computer and you will know. To me it is the same as being unfaithful lusting in their heart.