Windows 10 deadline

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Should one upgrade to Windows 10?

  • Yes upgrade

    Votes: 9 69.2%
  • No do not upgrade

    Votes: 4 30.8%

  • Total voters
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RickyZ

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That's very true. Win 95 was supposed to correct the problems with Win 93. Win 2000 was supposed to correct the problems with win 95. Win XP was supposed to correct the problems with win 2000. Win Vista was supposed to correct the problems with win XP. Win 7 was supposed to correct the problems with win Vista. Win 8 was supposed to correct the problems with win 7. Am I really supposed to believe that Win 10 corrects the problems with win 8?
 

breno785au

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Define problems..every OS has its issues, they are released with bugs and security vulnerabilities. Win 10 fixes the UI that everyone cried about in Win 8 at least. Funnily enough, if you learn to use Windows properly, you'll find you rarely, if ever, use the Start menu, it has become redundant over the years.
 
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So, the deadline for free upgrades to Windows 10 is fast approaching (July 29). I and many others have held out but it's time to decide. Is it worth it? Or is it just inviting more problems?
You do know this isn't the first deadline they've threatened us with, right? I'm as unmechanically inclined as it gets, Windows 10 is telling me I have until July 4th, hubby (the computer tech in the family) is in physical rehab, and not supposed to come home until the August maybe? Maybe July, but later in the month? Might be September? I was distraught I'd make the wrong decision, and more fearful I couldn't do it even if I tried. (I'd break the machines never to work again. lol)

One time I turned hubby's computer on to get the printer to print, by the time I got the shopping list out of the printer, there was a countdown clock on his screen telling me it was 95% downloaded! NOOOOOOOOO! (I had to unplug it to stop it.)

So I asked hubby if we should. He already did download it in a partitioned something-something. He says it was a memory hog and not worth it.

At this point, I look forward to the day comes and goes, so I don't ever have to worry about it automatically downloading again. I also fear I get that stupid ad even after. (I called Microsoft at one point, and if I can get ahold of the same guy while it's downloading he can fix it for me. It took me 45 minutes to get him that time! Yeesh!)
 

breno785au

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You do know this isn't the first deadline they've threatened us with, right? I'm as unmechanically inclined as it gets, Windows 10 is telling me I have until July 4th, hubby (the computer tech in the family) is in physical rehab, and not supposed to come home until the August maybe? Maybe July, but later in the month? Might be September? I was distraught I'd make the wrong decision, and more fearful I couldn't do it even if I tried. (I'd break the machines never to work again. lol)

One time I turned hubby's computer on to get the printer to print, by the time I got the shopping list out of the printer, there was a countdown clock on his screen telling me it was 95% downloaded! NOOOOOOOOO! (I had to unplug it to stop it.)

So I asked hubby if we should. He already did download it in a partitioned something-something. He says it was a memory hog and not worth it.

At this point, I look forward to the day comes and goes, so I don't ever have to worry about it automatically downloading again. I also fear I get that stupid ad even after. (I called Microsoft at one point, and if I can get ahold of the same guy while it's downloading he can fix it for me. It took me 45 minutes to get him that time! Yeesh!)
Yeah, I don't agree with the forced upgrade. I didn't hear of such a thing last year when they released it. I've heard a number of stories from people like yourself (not so computer savvy) brought to confusion and fear about the forced upgrade, and as a result, losing things and peripherals not working. I've also heard cases of MS being sued because of it. Not a good move by MS, no idea what they were thinking. Not sure if it's even legal, you'd probably have to read the EULA to get to the nittt gritty of things, something 99% of people never read including myself lol
 

RickyZ

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Some people like it... but more people seem to have issues with it. I just don't have the time to deal with computer issues right now (it would take away from my CC time ;) ) so to be on the safe side it's a no go.
 

breno785au

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Some people like it... but more people seem to have issues with it. I just don't have the time to deal with computer issues right now (it would take away from my CC time ;) ) so to be on the safe side it's a no go.
Yep, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I can understand if people are comfortable with what they already got and don't see a need for change.
 
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Just for your information guys, MS has said that this is the final version of Windows that will be released. Going forward, it will be updates and major updates to the OS - kind of like what Apple does. So there is no Windows 11 to look forward or skip to, this is it. You'll probably have to get Win 10 eventually if you want to stick with Windows or either go the Apple route or even Linux.
Tis what prompted me to get it (for free) going to get it eventually anyway.
That's why we bought desktops when Windows went baby-computers. (Surface.) We'd rather see the screen and be able to tap keyboards with any finger, instead of use our pinkies on teeny tiny little keyboards and squint.

Now, if we can only find a phone with a cord again. (Just kidding, but we really do prefer the 20th century devices.)
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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That's very true. Win 95 was supposed to correct the problems with Win 93. Win 2000 was supposed to correct the problems with win 95. Win XP was supposed to correct the problems with win 2000. Win Vista was supposed to correct the problems with win XP. Win 7 was supposed to correct the problems with win Vista. Win 8 was supposed to correct the problems with win 7. Am I really supposed to believe that Win 10 corrects the problems with win 8?


Each iteration isn't necessarily meant to "correct" problems with previous versions so much as they're meant to better support new technologies, introduce new features, and bolster security and productivity. Updates are meant to correct problems.
 
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Lynx

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Yep, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I can understand if people are comfortable with what they already got and don't see a need for change.
I remember when Win7 was the big thing and a friend of mine got it and installed it on his computer. He was going on and on about how great it was and how I should get it. At the time all my computers were running Windows XP. For some reason he deemed that an affront to progress.

"But my computer works just fine now."

But Win7 is so smooth, everything works so well, yada yada, it's a wonderful thing.

"But my computer already does what I want it to do."

But you really should try it, you'll love it, blah blah.

"Look, next time I get a computer it will probably have Win7 on it by default, and I will use it and (from what I have heard) probably like it. But I'm not going to take my computer, which is working just fine and doing all I want it to do, and upgrade it simply for the sake of upgrading."



Currently all my computers have Win7... I usually run Linux Mint 18 from a flash drive, but the computers' hard drives have Windows 7 on them. So take the conversation I just related, change "Windows XP" to "Win7" and change all mention of "Win7" to "Win10" and you'll have my current policy.
 

RickyZ

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"But my computer already does what I want it to do."
Sigh. I'm envious. I haven't met a computer yet that gave a rat's kiester about what I want to do.
 
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Tintin

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I'm enjoying Windows 10. It's a bit of a bugger with older games, but otherwise it's very good.
 
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Is there a way to install a program through dos? The guy at the store said the program I bought would work on windows 7 but it does not.
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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Is there a way to install a program through dos? The guy at the store said the program I bought would work on windows 7 but it does not.
By DOS, do you mean cmd? DOS is its own operating system.

You can install a program through cmd, but you need to know the correct path and how to execute the setup.exe file. What's the application?
 

ForthAngel

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I'm using Win 7 btw
10 is a solid OS but its invasive nature turns most people away. I hate how invasive it is, but whatever, I'm using it. 7 is superior though IMO. I'd still be using it if I had a disk. If you don't mind the potential invasions of privacy, I'd say go with 10. If that bothers you, 7 is just as solid without all the junk attached to it. You could even set up a virtual machine inside of windows 10 to run windows 7 if you wanted, or make two partitions and run both.

Another things is that there are still a ton of compatibility issues with programs and windows 10. I get a lot of errors when trying to run certain programs because the backwards compatibility for win 10 is pretty horrible and a lot of software just isn't developed for it. Granted, that is getting better pretty quick. But then again, compatibility mode does fix a lot of that, but not all of it.
 

ForthAngel

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Is there a way to install a program through dos? The guy at the store said the program I bought would work on windows 7 but it does not.
If it's a program designed to run in DOS then windows doesn't support that. Get DOSBox to run old DOS apps. You can install anything from the CMD prompt, but you can't run DOS apps because it's a different architecture than it used to be in the good ol' days.
 
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GaryA

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GaryA

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Is there a way to install a program through dos? The guy at the store said the program I bought would work on windows 7 but it does not.
Do you mean "it wouldn't install" or "it wouldn't run at all" or "it wouldn't run properly"...?

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ForthAngel

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It really is a good solid OS though. Most of the problems people are having are because software developers were, and even still are behind on making their systems compatible with 10. The OS itself is really stable, not to mention it supports next gen hardware and software, whereas the older versions of the OS won't have the same level of support for newer technologies and advancements in software capabilities.

I'm speaking as a gamer though running a pretty beefy system so I'm partial to the new tech appeal. I hated Windows 8, and really didn't like 10 at first, but it has turned into a great OS. I still prefer 7, but once the software developers get everything ironed out in their code, I think 10 will surpass 7 as far as its capabilities and stability goes. 7 will also become less secure since it will lose support/security updates and with all the junk features turned off in windows 10 and new security updates being released for prolly another decade, it will surpass 7 in that area too.

But again, any instability or issues in 10 (at least for me so far) is compatibility issues on the software developers' side, not the Windows 10 side. I've also heard that 10 really puts a load on weaker PCs, which may be the case and the cause of a lot of flack it's catching. Again, that would be a hardware issue and not an OS issue. Running 10 on 5-10 year old hardware prolly isn't gonna give someone the greatest experience whereas the older OS versions were designed around and for the now outdated hardware.
 
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Ultimatum77

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If it's a program designed to run in DOS then windows doesn't support that. Get DOSBox to run old DOS apps. You can install anything from the CMD prompt, but you can't run DOS apps because it's a different architecture than it used to be in the good ol' days.
Yup I like dosbox as well, to run old computer games from when I was a kid....like space fighter, need for speed (the very first one), within windows 8.1. Good stuff.

Super easy to setup to....just search for wikihow dosbox and they go step by step w/pictures.
 
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Ultimatum77

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An important things for W10 users:

You need to install .net framework at least version 4.5. Many older programs work with that, and both W8 and W10 don't come with it standard unless you select the option on the disc using a program like NTlite.

Also if you're a gamer, old games won't run as smooth without direct X 11 rollup update June 2010. It makes old games from even 2005 like NFS Carbon run smoothly with no hiccups/jitter and good graphics. If you need a link to the rollup update for direct X let me know.