History From An Arab Point of View

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arthurfleminger

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I am an American, born and bred, with no Arab nor Jewish roots. Years ago I used to be vehemently pro Israel but that has changed. Now I'm neither pro Israel nor pro Arab.

There is no question at all that the Arabs in the region have suffered greatly at the hands of the Israelis, from land grabs and harsh rule in occupied areas. And there is no question that Israelis have suffered from terror strikes from Arabs who feel desperate to regain their rights and lands.

That being said, many/many efforts have been made since 1948, about 75 years, to bring peace to the region and the Arabs and Israelis. Yet each side steadfastly refuses to make necessary concessions for a true peace process and peace.

And Israel is as much to blame as the Arabs for the ongoing and never ending strife. Israel has had the military and economic power in the region for many decades. Israel has the power to grant concessions for peace, but they don't. And the Arabs also have the prerogative to grant concessions for peace, but they won't.

It's a great disappointment that the Arabs and Israelis can't make peace. Maybe they hate each other too much, the 'Eye for an Eye' thing. So, I am neither for either side and believe that they should be allowed to go at each other, until they get tired of the killing and hatred.

Is there hope? Always there is hope. Look at the Protestants and Catholics of Northern Ireland. Sworn enemies and killing each other for decades. But, they managed to come together and make peace. They may not love one another but they did establish a peace within the country and among themselves. Also look at the peoples of the North and South of the USA who had the bloodiest of civil wars. Yet today, they are one. They are brothers/sisters with each other and even love one another.

The Arabs and Israelis should look to the people of Northern Ireland and see that peace is possible, despite all the hatred and killing. PEACE IS POSSIBLE BUT IT'S COMPLETLY UP TO BOTH THE ARABS AND ISRAELIS.
 

Katia

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I am an American, born and bred, with no Arab nor Jewish roots. Years ago I used to be vehemently pro Israel but that has changed. Now I'm neither pro Israel nor pro Arab.

There is no question at all that the Arabs in the region have suffered greatly at the hands of the Israelis, from land grabs and harsh rule in occupied areas. And there is no question that Israelis have suffered from terror strikes from Arabs who feel desperate to regain their rights and lands.

That being said, many/many efforts have been made since 1948, about 75 years, to bring peace to the region and the Arabs and Israelis. Yet each side steadfastly refuses to make necessary concessions for a true peace process and peace.

And Israel is as much to blame as the Arabs for the ongoing and never ending strife. Israel has had the military and economic power in the region for many decades. Israel has the power to grant concessions for peace, but they don't. And the Arabs also have the prerogative to grant concessions for peace, but they won't.

It's a great disappointment that the Arabs and Israelis can't make peace. Maybe they hate each other too much, the 'Eye for an Eye' thing. So, I am neither for either side and believe that they should be allowed to go at each other, until they get tired of the killing and hatred.

Is there hope? Always there is hope. Look at the Protestants and Catholics of Northern Ireland. Sworn enemies and killing each other for decades. But, they managed to come together and make peace. They may not love one another but they did establish a peace within the country and among themselves. Also look at the peoples of the North and South of the USA who had the bloodiest of civil wars. Yet today, they are one. They are brothers/sisters with each other and even love one another.

The Arabs and Israelis should look to the people of Northern Ireland and see that peace is possible, despite all the hatred and killing. PEACE IS POSSIBLE BUT IT'S COMPLETLY UP TO BOTH THE ARABS AND ISRAELIS.
From my studies of the Bible it seems that this hostility is pre-ordained, though it makes little sense to me. From what the Quran and Muslims taught me, early Muslims were exposed to both Jews and Christians on the peninsula. These days I just try to mind my own business and worship God (Allah SWT).

The Levant was peopled by both Arabs and Jews though perhaps uncrowded. After WW2, it seems that the Jewish population in the area reached 90,000. From my own experience there are many sects of Jews. Sadly some of them are quite obnoxious, and entitled.
 

Magenta

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I just try to mind my own business and worship God (Allah SWT).
The religion of the god of Islam denies the divinity of Jesus Christ.

The religion of the god you worship denies and outright contradicts much of the Bible.


Islam denies also that God has a Son. They put Ishmael in Isaac's place as the son of promise to Abraham.

Including the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ. Jesus said in not knowing Who He was, you would die in your sins.