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Well America is in fact the place to be considering the freedom and rights we have plus the fact we are a rich country as long as Obama doesn't intend to keep bankrupting us lol.
We are indeed the most blessed country yet in my opinion also the most cursed because even with all we have if you look at most ppl they are so ungrateful for the little things we have that most countries would kill for, instead of being grateful that we have jobs to earn money and survive most go to work complaining, even something like air conditioning is a major blessing yet how many ppl take that for granted.
I go to work from 3 in the afternoon to 6 because of the heat I am unable to do more than three hours and so I don't earn a lot of money and honestly the job I do no one else wants to do because it's not as easy as you would think to hold the sign for little ceasers in the blazing heat and sun it literally drains the life out of you no matter how much water you drink. But I am very grateful for my job because it isn't about the money for me, I don't need a lot I only need enough no more no less and my needs are taken care of but I grew up with very little and so I am grateful for what most ppl would see as no big deal.
When I am at work I see ppl working there and I can tell to them this is just a job just a way to earn a little money but to me it's more than that.Not only do I get spend my entire time with God holding that sign but I find that depending on how you view what your job is changes everything, if you go into work with the right heart the right attitude then while most ppl are complaining and think this job is a pain you are doing your best and you are chipper and ppl notice this about you and the light you shine affects them as well.
If there is one thing I admire it's hard work that great determination that will power which is why I admire construction workers which is why I admire firefighters anyone who has a job that requires hard work and the put in that extra effort. Many ppl underestimate the benefit of hard manual labor or the having to work really hard every day, some of the happiest ppl alive come home smelling to high heaven.
We are indeed the most blessed country yet in my opinion also the most cursed because even with all we have if you look at most ppl they are so ungrateful for the little things we have that most countries would kill for, instead of being grateful that we have jobs to earn money and survive most go to work complaining, even something like air conditioning is a major blessing yet how many ppl take that for granted.
I go to work from 3 in the afternoon to 6 because of the heat I am unable to do more than three hours and so I don't earn a lot of money and honestly the job I do no one else wants to do because it's not as easy as you would think to hold the sign for little ceasers in the blazing heat and sun it literally drains the life out of you no matter how much water you drink. But I am very grateful for my job because it isn't about the money for me, I don't need a lot I only need enough no more no less and my needs are taken care of but I grew up with very little and so I am grateful for what most ppl would see as no big deal.
When I am at work I see ppl working there and I can tell to them this is just a job just a way to earn a little money but to me it's more than that.Not only do I get spend my entire time with God holding that sign but I find that depending on how you view what your job is changes everything, if you go into work with the right heart the right attitude then while most ppl are complaining and think this job is a pain you are doing your best and you are chipper and ppl notice this about you and the light you shine affects them as well.
If there is one thing I admire it's hard work that great determination that will power which is why I admire construction workers which is why I admire firefighters anyone who has a job that requires hard work and the put in that extra effort. Many ppl underestimate the benefit of hard manual labor or the having to work really hard every day, some of the happiest ppl alive come home smelling to high heaven.
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Apparently, you might want to study that history you think you know better than me. 13 colonies because 13 variations of Christians couldn't get along, and, no! That tea thing wasn't the last straw. It was simply a straw.
But now I get where you get your form of Christianity. Americanism. Thanks. You answered my question.
But now I get where you get your form of Christianity. Americanism. Thanks. You answered my question.
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When covenant theology gained wide acceptance......."Clean up this world." And conservative patriots made it a cause.
And I am conservative and a patriot, but they are not priorities.
They are hard to separate. We need a free nation to worship God according to His ways. If that freedom is lost, we can't worship correctly. And the freewill of unbelievers is suppressed if our freedoms are taken. Gods wants us to live as free people.
I see it as going exactly the way God has revealed it to us. I don't see it as God failing. I see at He lets us fail and He cleans up our mess.
And Honestly, I have not seen one person here or in my personal life that thinks God is failing.
And I am conservative and a patriot, but they are not priorities.
They are hard to separate. We need a free nation to worship God according to His ways. If that freedom is lost, we can't worship correctly. And the freewill of unbelievers is suppressed if our freedoms are taken. Gods wants us to live as free people.
I see it as going exactly the way God has revealed it to us. I don't see it as God failing. I see at He lets us fail and He cleans up our mess.
And Honestly, I have not seen one person here or in my personal life that thinks God is failing.
America may not be the "promised land," whatever you mean by that. However, it is full of the disciples of Christ who are heirs to the Promise.
Why do all your threads deal with negativity concerning one thing or another.
Now it's "hate America?"
Seriously?
I'm so very glad you have me on your "ignore" list...............hate to think you would actually gain some insight into almost anything. Who died and made you the Expert on Christianity?
Hard to be nice, considerate to someone who is never nice or considerate to others..............
Why do all your threads deal with negativity concerning one thing or another.
Now it's "hate America?"
Seriously?
I'm so very glad you have me on your "ignore" list...............hate to think you would actually gain some insight into almost anything. Who died and made you the Expert on Christianity?
Hard to be nice, considerate to someone who is never nice or considerate to others..............
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You are aware that the first Christians were not in a free nation, right?
And, you're right. Nobody does think God failed. They blame it on something else, as if that sneaked right past God's attention. (God doesn't allow abortions. The Supreme Court allowed that. God doesn't allow homosexual marriages. The Supreme Court did that. God didn't allow three jets to crash into huge buildings...) I think assuming something got past God is blaming him without the courage to point fingers.
And, you're right. Nobody does think God failed. They blame it on something else, as if that sneaked right past God's attention. (God doesn't allow abortions. The Supreme Court allowed that. God doesn't allow homosexual marriages. The Supreme Court did that. God didn't allow three jets to crash into huge buildings...) I think assuming something got past God is blaming him without the courage to point fingers.
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It's really not a matter of amazing things past God. It's a matter of people putting their own wants first. We are a blessed nation in many ways but Off never heard anyone calling us God's promises land or any such stuff. I do think we're the best county in the world but that's simply because I love my country.
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Check out some of the post presented in the last 32 hours. Apparently Ephesians is about arming ourselves to reassert the American government. (http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/118080-we-resist-ungodly-government.html) We're waiting around for the American government to do something about world politics. (http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...sed-christian-founded-fore-fathers-bible.html and http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/118142-who-israel.html) And the tribulation can't happen without America involved. (http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...lation-raptiure-post-tribulation-rapture.html)
I too love this country, but it's not the Promised Land and God is still fully in control whether our country does some boneheaded things or not.
I'd just prefer we don't confuse God with the American concept of "success." Otherwise, if we lose the success, we'll blame it on the country, instead of giving thanks to God for caring for us.
I too love this country, but it's not the Promised Land and God is still fully in control whether our country does some boneheaded things or not.
I'd just prefer we don't confuse God with the American concept of "success." Otherwise, if we lose the success, we'll blame it on the country, instead of giving thanks to God for caring for us.
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I love America, I'm a patriot and not ashamed to admit it but proud. My husband, father, grandfather, brothers, cousins, nephews have served in Army, Navy, Air force and Marines.
They did it so we could freely chat on a forum like this. So we could worship anyway we wished. So we couldn't be thrown on jail for nothing.
I would not dishonor the sacrifice thousands of our veterans made by not respecting the country for which they served and many gave their lives.
Why would one think that patriotism excludes a relationship with God?
As Christians we ARE to take a stand for godliness. I think the ballot box is more effective than complaining.
They did it so we could freely chat on a forum like this. So we could worship anyway we wished. So we couldn't be thrown on jail for nothing.
I would not dishonor the sacrifice thousands of our veterans made by not respecting the country for which they served and many gave their lives.
Why would one think that patriotism excludes a relationship with God?
As Christians we ARE to take a stand for godliness. I think the ballot box is more effective than complaining.
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That's nice. Nothing to do with my questions, but thanks for the red, white, and blue speech.
And since you slipped godliness in at the end, as if that is America, then, at this point in time, wouldn't that mean we shouldn't vote at all? We haven't had godly men or women running in any political races for a very long time. Even the ones who claim to be Christian are never into actually dealing with their beliefs, once they win.
Just saying, since you're determined to pin patriotism to God.
(I so love how almost everyone thinks I'm not patriotic, simply because I understand America isn't the Promised Land. lol)
And since you slipped godliness in at the end, as if that is America, then, at this point in time, wouldn't that mean we shouldn't vote at all? We haven't had godly men or women running in any political races for a very long time. Even the ones who claim to be Christian are never into actually dealing with their beliefs, once they win.
Just saying, since you're determined to pin patriotism to God.
(I so love how almost everyone thinks I'm not patriotic, simply because I understand America isn't the Promised Land. lol)
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Well don't forget that people who want to overly analyze the Bible in western terms also aren't as literate in the Bible as they think. Look at the blood moon thing lately-all the new experts popping up because they studied a few bits of information and very select Bible verses.
I wouldn't don't that America has a place in prophecy and revelation time things but all the nation's are involved as there's Christians in some number worldwide.
I wouldn't don't that America has a place in prophecy and revelation time things but all the nation's are involved as there's Christians in some number worldwide.
God promised land to Israel not to America. America has been greatly blessed of God. America has been a land of great prosperity and enjoyed great liberty. Freedom and justice have been a rich part of America's heritage.
As good as America has been it is only a shadow of what God has in store for Israel in the future. God is so good He must bless somebody.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
As good as America has been it is only a shadow of what God has in store for Israel in the future. God is so good He must bless somebody.
For the cause of Christ
Roger