Matthew 5:17-19 : Sabbath and Torah Observers' Nightmare Rather Than Proof Text :)

[sparkman]

Standard disclaimer: These remarks are not criticizing Sabbath or Torah Observers who don't claim these observances are requirements or conditions or necessary fruits of salvation, and do not claim that non-observers are living in sin. You are free to do what you want per Romans 14.



Some Sabbathkeepers claim that the Sabbath is a moral absolute and as such continues into the New Covenant.

This analysis shows how the Sabbath and circumcision compare in terms of language in the Old Testament.

Sometimes, they will point out that Sabbath-breaking was punishable by death, and that proves its moral nature. However, the same situation occurred with regards to circumcision. God sought to kill Moses because he failed to circumcise his son.

Anyways, this is one point of many that is covered in Dale Ratzlaff's book Sabbath in Christ that leads one to systematically understand that Old Covenant ceremonial and ritualistic elements including the Sabbath, festivals, clean/unclean meats do not apply to New Covenant Christians. Dale was a former Seventh Day Adventist. I am a former member of Worldwide Church of God, an Armstrongite Sabbath/festival keeping cult, so I appreciate his work in this regard.

Circumcision was the one-time entry sign into the Old Covenant. Sabbathkeeping was the continuing, "remembrance" sign of the Old Covenant. In the New Covenant, the one-time entry sign is baptism and the continuing, "remembrance" sign is the Lord's Supper. Totally different covenant, totally different signs. It is not a "Renewed Covenant" like some claim. That is part of the teaching of the Galatians heretics.

SABBATH AND CIRCUMCISION COMPARISON
The purpose of this comparison is to prove that the Sabbath and circumcision are similar in terms of nature.Both are signs of the Old Covenant.Signs are not moral absolutes.They are arbitrary indicators that one is a party to a covenant.
Scripture speaks of them with very similar language, and it is plain that they are similar in terms of nature.
The comparisons below are based mainly on Genesis 17:9-14 and Exodus 31:12-18, 20:12:
C: “You shall keep my My covenant” : Gen 17:9
S: “You shall surely observe My Sabbath: Ex 31:13

C: “Me and you and your descendants” : Gen 17:9
S: “Me and the sons of Israel” : Ex 31:14

C:“And you shall be circumcised : Gen 17:11
S: “You are to observe the Sabbath” : Ex 31:14

C: Throughout your generations” : Gen 17:12
S: Throughout your generations” : Ex 31:13

C: “The sign..between Me and you” : Gen 17:11
S: “A sign between Me and You” : Ex 31:13

C: “An everlasting covenant”: Gen 17:13
S: “A perpetual covenant” : Ex 31:16

C: “Uncircumcised..cut off” : Ex 17:14
S: “Whoever does any work…cut off” : Ex 31:14

C: Servant to be circumcised : Gen 17:12
S: Servant to keep Sabbath : Ex 20:10

C: Sign of circumcision given at time of giving of the Covenant: Gen 17:1-9
S: Sign of Sabbath given at time of giving of the Covenant : Ex 31:18

C: Nonobservance punishable by death (Ex 4:24-26)
S: Nonobservance punishable by death (Num 15:32-36)

C: Circumcision mentioned 6 times
S: Sabbath mentioned six times

The importance of the above comparison is to create the association between circumcision and the Sabbath.Both are signs of the Old Covenant.Circumcision was carried over from the Abrahamic covenant, but it was still one of the signs of the Old Covenant (John 7:23).
Circumcision was the one-time, entry sign into the Old Covenant (Exodus 12:48), and the Sabbath was the continuing, remembrance sign of the Old Covenant (Exodus 20:8).
A sign is not a moral absolute.It is an arbitrary indicator that one is a party to a covenant.
NEW COVENANT SIGNS
The New Covenant is a different covenant, with different signs and different laws.
Baptism is the one-time entry sign into the New Covenant (Matt.28:19-20).The continuing, remembrance sign of the New Covenant is the Lord’s Supper (Luke 22:19).Note the similarity in wording between remembrance element of the Sabbath and the Lord’s Supper.

 

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the children rebelled against me,” continued God, through the Prophet Ezekiel.
“[T]hey polluted MY sabbaths?…” (verse 21).

He scattered them, in national captivity and slavery (verse 23).
“Because they had not executed MY judgments, but had despised MY statutes,
and had polluted MY sabbaths, and their eyes were after their FATHERS’ idols”

“And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries
wherein ye are scattered?…?with fury poured out. And I will bring you into
the wilderness of the people [coming exodus—Jeremiah 23:7-8],

and there will I plead with you face to face” (Ezekiel 20:34-35).

“Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt,

SO will I plead with you, saith the Lord God?.… And I will purge out from among
you the rebels, and them that transgress against me?…?
and YE shall know that I am the Lord” (verses 36-38).

43And there shall ye remember your ways, and all your doings, wherein ye have been defiled;
and ye shall [lothe yourselves] in your own sight for all your evils that ye have committed.

44And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have wrought with you for my name's sake,
not according to your wicked ways, nor according to your corrupt doings, O ye house of Israel,

saith the Lord God.



Ezekiel36

21But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned
among the heathen, whither they went.Therefore say unto the house of Israel,

Thus saith the Lord God; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but
for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

23And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen,
which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that
I am the Lord, saith the Lord God, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

24For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries,
and will bring you into your own land.25Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you,
and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

26A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will
take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27And I will put my spirit within you, and [cause you to walk] in [my statutes],
and ye[ shall] keep [my judgments], and do them.

28And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people,
and I will be your God. 29I will also save you from all your uncleannesses:

and I will call for the corn, and will increase it, and lay no famine upon you.
30And I will multiply the fruit of the tree, and the increase of the field, that ye
shall receive no more reproach of famine among the heathen.

31Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good,
and [shall lothe yourselves] in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.

38As the holy flock, as the flock of Jerusalem in her solemn feasts;
so shall the waste cities be filled with flocks of men: and they shall know that I am the Lord.

And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another,
and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

 

[prove-all]

the oracles of God

This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel
which spake to him in [the mount Sina], and with our fathers:

who received [the lively oracles] to [give unto us ] Acts 7:38

For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need
that one teach you [again] which be the first principles of

[the oracles of God]; and are become such as have
need of milk, and not of strong meat. Hebrews 5:12

If any man speak, let him speak as [the oracles of God];
if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth:

that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ,
to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. 1 Peter 4:11

What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
Much every way:chiefly, because that unto them

were committed [the oracles of God]. Romans 3:2

- - -

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:
because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee,
that thou shalt be no priest to me:

seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them.
O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.

 

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Luke 4:16 So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up.
And as His CUSTOM was , He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day,
and stood up to read.


Acts 17:2 Then Paul, as his CUSTOM was, went in to them,
and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures.


Acts 13:42 So when the Jews went out of the synagogue,
the GENTILES BEGGED that these words might
be preached to them the NEXT SABBATH.


Matt. 12:12 "Of how much more value then is a man than a sheep?
Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath."

Mark 1:21 Then they went into Capernaum, and immediately
on the Sabbath He entered the Synagogue and taught.

Mark 15:42 Now when evening had come, because it was
the PREPARATION DAY, that is, the day before the Sabbath.

Luke 4:31 Then He went down to Capernaum, a city of Galilee,
and was teaching them on the SABBATHS.

Luke 13:10 Now He was teaching in one of the synagogues on the Sabbath.

Luke 23:56 Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils.
And they RESTED on the Sabbath ACCORDING TO THE COMMANDMENT.


Acts 15:21 "For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach
him in every city being read in the synagogues every Sabbath.

Acts 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath,
and persuaded the jews and the greeks.

Blessed is the man who does this, And the son of man who lays hold on it;
Who KEEPS FROM DEFILLING THE SABBATH, and keeps his hand
from doing any evil. Also the sons of the FOREIGNER who join themselves
to the Lord, to serve Him. And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants,

Everyone who keeps from DEFILLING THE SABBATH,
AND HOLDS FAST MY COVENANT.

 

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Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the Lord their God,
and David their king; and shall [fear the Lord] and his goodness in the latter days.

And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding,
the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;

Hosea 3:5 (KJV)
The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death.

And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom;
and to depart from evil is understanding.

Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the Lord, and depart from evil.

He will bless them that fear the Lord, both small and great.

O fear the Lord, ye his saints: for there is no want to them that fear him.

Come, ye children, hearken unto me: I will teach you the fear of the Lord.

Teach me thy way, O Lord; I will walk in thy truth: unite my heart to fear thy name.

The secret of the Lord is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant.

By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the Lord men depart from evil.

The fear of the Lord is the instruction of wisdom; and before honour is humility.



The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: [a good understanding] have all they
that [do his commandments]: his praise endureth for ever.



The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the Lord:

And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, and strength of salvation:
the fear of the Lord is his treasure.

Then shalt thou understand the fear of the Lord, and find the knowledge of God.

But the mercy of the Lord is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him,
and his righteousness unto children's children;

The fear of the Lord prolongeth days: but the years of the wicked shall be shortened.

Let all the earth fear the Lord: let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him.

Behold, the eye of the Lord is upon them that fear him, upon them that hope in his mercy;

Like as a father pitieth his children, so the Lord pitieth them that fear him.

The Lord taketh pleasure in them that fear him, in those that hope in his mercy.


The fear of the Lord is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way,
and the froward mouth, do I hate.

The fear of the Lord tendeth to life: and he that hath it shall abide satisfied;
he shall not be visited with evil.

Let not thine heart envy sinners: but be thou in the fear of the Lord all the day long.

Wherefore now let the fear of the Lord be upon you; take heed and do it:
for there is no iniquity with the Lord our God, nor respect of persons, nor taking of gifts.

 

[prodigal]

[h=1]Hebrews 4King James Version (KJV)[/h]4 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.
14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.
15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

 

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The New Covenant is a different covenant, with different signs and different laws.
The continuing, remembrance sign of the New Covenant is the Lord’s Supper (Luke 22:19).
Note the similarity in wording between remembrance element of the Sabbath and the Lord’s Supper.

the lords supper was done [on passover] back then.

1 Corinthians 11:20 (KJV)
When ye come together therefore into one place,
this is not to eat the Lord's supper.


a [new testement] not a new covenent, Jesus changed [the symbles], not the day.
and because of sheading his blood, [A Feast ] is commanded to be keep.

an this would be the first day of unleavened bread, now not to remove bread you eat.
one symble now is commanded to remove false doctrine[test and prove everything].

1Co 11:23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you,
That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:

1Co 11:24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat:
this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.

1Co 11:25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped,
saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it,
in remembrance of me.

referring back to this...

Luk 22:15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat
this passover with you before I suffer: For I say unto you, I will not
any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.
Luk 22:17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said,
Take this, and divide it among yourselves:

Luk 22:18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine,
until the kingdom of God shall come.

Luk 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them,
saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

Luk 22:20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying,
This cup is [the new testament] in my blood, which is shed for you.

Do what in remembrance of me? They were taking the Passover.
The Passover service also consists of the foot washing...

Joh 13:12 So after he had washed their feet, and had taken his garments,
and was set down again, he said unto them, Know ye what I have done to you?
Joh 13:13 Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am.
Joh 13:14 If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet;
ye also ought to wash one another's feet.

Joh 13:15 For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.
Joh 13:16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord;
neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.

Joh 13:17 If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do them.
and then Paul says this...

1Co 5:6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth
the whole lump? Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump,
as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast,
not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness;
but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

And he said that to a Gentile church, to keep the feast of unleavened bread.

Nowhere is a Sunday morning Ishtar sunrise service taught in scripture
but the Passover and the Days of Unleavened Bread are taught.



sunday was [the first day of the week] to do [manual labor].


please give me one verse in the new testement that says

sunday was now the day of rest instead of the Sabbath.

 

[prove-all]

today churches say the lords day is now sunday, [first day of the week] when to rest.


please give me bible verses that backs up this claim about [the Lords day] being sunday

 

[prove-all]

Basically, this is my view of the pertinent facts regarding the Sabbath issue and history.
Some Sabbathkeepers often present their version of church history in a manner that makes it sound like the Roman Catholic church or the Roman emperors changed the day of observance of Christians from Saturday to Sunday.

Some Historions view of the lost century in history, questions your view here.


as Edward Gibbon wrote in

The History of the decline and fall of the Roman Empire

"The scanty materials of ecclesiastical history seldom enable us to dispel
the cloud that hangs over the first age of the church .


Jesse Lyman Hurlbert in
The story of the christian church
the age just after the book of acts he calls "..the age of shadows.."

"of all the periods in the churches history, it is the one about which we know
the least about. For fifty years after St. Paul's life a curtain hangs over the church,
through which we strive vainly to look;


William McLaughlin in
The Course of Christian History

"But Christianity itself had been in the process of transformation as it progressed
and at the close of the period was in many respects quite different from the apostolic
Christianity."



Samuel G. Green in
A handbook of church History

"The thirty years which followed the close of the New Testement canon and the
destruction of Jerusalem, are in truth the most obscure in the history of the church.
When we emerge in the second century, we are to a great extent in a changed world."



William fitzgerald in
lectures on ecclesiastical History

"over this period of transition, which immediatly succeeds upon
the era properly called apostolic, great obscurity hangs."



Philip Schaff in
History of the Christian Church

"The remaining thirty years of the first century are involved in mysterious darkness,
illuminated only by the writings of John. This is a period of church history about which
we know least and would like to know most."

"Simon Magus unquestionably adulterated Christianity with pagon ideas and practices
and gave himself out for an emanation of God."

"This heresy in the second century spread over the whole church, east and west,
in the various schools of agnosticism."



--Satan was doing everything he could to destroy the Work of God, and in
little more than two decades, God’s people were turning to another gospel.


-this was the time of the Roman Empire , and in around 117 AD, at its greatest extent.
streched from Britian clear to modern day Turkey, and it ruled with the rod of iron.

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I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you
into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years
I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.

 

[prove-all]

A warning-about entering His rest

Heb 4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering
into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.

-how did they came short?

Heb 4:2 For indeed we have had good tidings preached unto us,
even as also they: but the word of hearing did not profit them,
because it was not united by (faith) with them that heard.

-they did not have faith.

Heb 4:3 For we who have believed do enter into that rest;even as
he hath said, As I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest:
although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

Heb 4:4 For he hath said somewhere of the seventh day on this wise,
And God rested on the seventh day from all his works;

-notice entering into that rest is connected with the seventh day.

Heb 4:5 and in this place again, They shall not enter into my rest.
Heb 4:6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some should enter thereinto,
and they to whom the good tidings were before preached
failed to enter in because of disobedience,

-God said they will not enter His rest, but they failed because of [disobedience].
about the 7th day Sabbath command.

Heb 4:7 he again defineth a certain day, To-day, saying in David
so long a time afterward (even as hath been said before),
To-day if ye shall hear his voice, Harden not your hearts.

Heb 4:8 For if Joshua had given them rest, he would not have spoken
afterward of another day.

-David said "today" long after Joshua took them into the promised land
so thus proving that there is a rest still to be entered.

Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a sabbath rest for the people of God.
Heb 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest hath himself also rested from his works,
as God did from his. Let us therefore give diligence to enter into that rest,

that no man fall after the same example of [disobedience].

-A rest remains, but notice the issue is do not disobey.

Heb 9:3 And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holy of holies;
Heb 9:4 having a golden altar of incense, and the ark of the covenant overlaid
round about with gold, wherein was a golden pot holding the manna,
and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;

-the pot of manna was put in the most Holy

Deu 8:2 And thou shalt remember all the way which Jehovah thy God hath led thee
these forty years in the wilderness, that he might humble thee, to prove thee, to know
what was in thy heart, whether thou wouldest keep his commandments, or not.
Deu 8:3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna,
which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know

that man doth not live by bread only, but by everything that proceedeth
out of the mouth of Jehovah doth man live.

-God tested them for 40 years to humble them to see what was in their hearts.
that they should live by every word (10 commandments spoken by Gods own mouth)
not by bread alone.

-what did the bread teach?

Exo 16:4 Then said Jehovah unto Moses, Behold, I will rain bread from heaven for you;
and the people shall go out and gather a day's portion every day, that I may prove them,
whether they will walk in my law, or not.

Exo 16:5 And it shall come to pass on the sixth day, that they shall prepare that which
they bring in, and it shall be twice as much as they gather daily.

-and how long did God prove them with the manna?

Exo 16:32 And Moses said, This is the thing which Jehovah hath commanded, Let
an omerful of it be kept throughout your generations, that they may see the bread
wherewith I fed you in the wilderness, when I brought you forth from the land of Egypt.

Exo 16:33 And Moses said unto Aaron, Take a pot, and put an omerful of manna therein,
and lay it up before Jehovah, to be kept throughout your generations.

As Jehovah commanded Moses, so Aaron laid it up before the Testimony, to be kept.
And the children of Israel did eat the manna forty years, until they came to a land inhabited;
they did eat the manna, until they came unto the borders of the land of Canaan.

-40 years. this is the issue being spoken of in Hebrews:

Heb 3:16 For who, when they heard, did provoke? nay, did not all they
that came out of Egypt by Moses?

Heb 3:17 And with whom was he displeased forty years?
was it not with them that sinned, whose bodies fell in the wilderness?
Heb 3:18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest,
but to them that were disobedient?
Heb 3:19 And we see that they were not able to enter in because of unbelief.

Hebrews 4:4-10 "For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise,
And God did rest the seventh day from all his works [Gen. 2:2-3].

And in this [place again],

If they shall enter into my rest. Seeing therefore it remaineth
that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in
because of unbelief [sound familiar?]: Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David,
To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.

For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
There remaineth therefore a rest [see below] to the people of God. For he that is entered
into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his."

rest (G4520) sabbatismos
1. a keeping sabbath
2. the blessed rest from toils and troubles looked for in the age to come by
the true worshippers of God and true Christians
from a derivative of G4521

(G4521) sabbaton
1. the seventh day of each week which was a sacred festival on which the Israelites
were required to abstain from all work
1a. the institution of the sabbath, the law for keeping holy every seventh day of the week
1b. a single sabbath, sabbath day
2. seven days, a week
of Hebrew origin H7676

(H7676) shabba^th
1. Sabbath
1a. sabbath
1b. day of atonement
1c. sabbath year
1d. week
1e. produce (in sabbath year)
intensive from H7673

(7673) sha^bath
1. to cease, desist, rest
1a. (Qal)
1a-1. to cease
1a-2. to rest, desist (from labour)
1b. (Niphal) to cease
1c. (Hiphil)
1c-1. to cause to cease, put an end to
1c-2. to exterminate, destroy
1c-3. to cause to desist from
1c-4. to remove
1c-5. to cause to fail
2. (Qal) to keep or observe the sabbath
a primitive root


Genesis 2:2-3 "And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made;
and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God
blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from
all his work which God created and made."

The LORD created the seventh day (Sabbath), blessed and sanctified it
"because that in it he had rested from all his work".

-once God has blessed something, can it be undone?

Numbers 23:19-20 "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man,
that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall
he not make it good? Behold, I have received commandment to bless:

and he hath blessed; and [I cannot reverse it]."

-Here Balaam tells Balak that the LORD gave him a commandment to bless Israel.
He told Balak that what the LORD has blessed, he cannot reverse it.
Do we think we can reverse the blessing the LORD has placed on something?

1 Chronicles 17:26-27 "And now, LORD, thou art God, and hast promised this goodness
unto thy servant: Now therefore let it please thee to bless the house of thy servant, that it may
be before thee for ever: for thou blessest, O LORD, and it shall be blessed for ever."

 

[valiant]

today churches say the lords day is now sunday, [first day of the week] when to rest.


please give me bible verses that backs up this claim about [the Lords day] being sunday

Acts 20.7 makes clear that the first day of the week is the day of regular worship. I cor 16.1 confirms this. The Sabbath is the day of rest (None-working).

The phrase Lord's Day is 'unbiblical' unless you see it as in rev 1.10 where it is ambiguous

 

[prove-all]

Acts 20.7 makes clear that the first day of the week is the day of regular worship. I cor 16.1 confirms this. The Sabbath is the day of rest (None-working).

The phrase Lord's Day is 'unbiblical' unless you see it as in rev 1.10 where it is ambiguous

6And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread,
and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.


why did they keep the days of unleavened bread,?

7And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread,
Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

-Paul was going to take a long walk at first light
this is [a work day] and a one time event,
nowhere is it commanded to be done in stead of the Sabbath.
also elsewhere breaking bread is eating a meal .

11When he therefore was come up again, and had broken bread, and eaten,
and talked a long while, even till break of day, so he departed.
-a lot happened that night to talk about, but it was a work day
-

 

[valiant]

A warning-about entering His rest

Heb 4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering
into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.

The rest they were not to come short of was clearly NOT the Sabbath. It was the rest that came under Joshua,

-how did they came short?

Heb 4:2 For indeed we have had good tidings preached unto us,
even as also they: but the word of hearing did not profit them,
because it was not united by (faith) with them that heard.

they did not have sufficient faith to enter into Joshua's rest.
-they did not have faith.

Heb 4:3 For we who have believed do enter into that rest;even as
he hath said, As I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest:
although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

We which have believed have entered, into rest. This again is clearly not the Sabbath.

Heb 4:4 For he hath said somewhere of the seventh day on this wise, And God rested on the seventh day from all his works;

-notice entering into that rest is connected with the seventh day

.

No it is connected with the seventh day of creation.

your whole thesis is based on error.

 

[prove-all]

-The following from the Catholic Encyclopaedia Vol. 4, p. 153
also confirms the deletion of the second Commandment and the change of the fourth.

“The church, after changing the day of rest from the Jewish Sabbath of the seventh day of the week
to the first made the third commandment refer to Sunday as the day to be kept holy as the Lord's Day.”

sunday has nothing to do with,and is not the lords day in the bible.


-In 1562 the Archbishop declared that tradition now stood above scripture.

“The authority of the Church is illustrated most clearly by the scriptures, for on one hand
she recommends them, declares them to be divine, and offers them to us to be read,

and on the other hand, the legal precepts in the scriptures taught by the Lord have ceased
by virtue of the same authority. The Sabbath, the most glorious day in the law,
has been changed into the Lord's day.




These and other similar matters have not ceased by virtue of Christ's teaching
(for He says that He has come to fulfill the law, not to destroy it), but they have
been changed by the authority of the Church.”
— Gaspare de Posso Archbishop of Reggio, Council of Trent.


-they deleted the second Commandment and changed God's Sabbath to Sunday
and split the tenth Commandment into two to get back to Ten Commandments

 

[prove-all]

the first day of the week is the day of regular worship. I cor 16.1 confirms this.
The Sabbath is the day of rest (None-working).

What Was This COLLECTION on the first day?

We come now to the eighth and last place where the term “first day of the week”
occurs in the Bible.

8) 1 Corinthians 16:2: “Upon the first day of the week let every one of you
lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him.…”

Often we see this text printed on the little offering envelopes in the pews of popular
churches, and we have been told that this text sets the first day of the week as the time
for taking up the church collection for the carrying on of God’s work, paying the minister, etc.

Let us begin with the first verse and really catch the true intended meaning of this verse.

“Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia,
even so do ye. Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store,
as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.”

This speaks of a collection—but for whom—for what? Note it! Not for the preacher
—not for evangelism—but “the collection for the saints.” The poor saints at Jerusalem
were suffering from drought and famine. They needed, not money, but food.

Notice Paul had given similar instruction to other churches.
Now observe his instruction to the Romans:

“But now I go unto Jerusalem to minister unto the saints. For it hath pleased them
of Macedonia and Achaia [where the Corinthian church was located] to make a certain
contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem.

When therefore I have performed this, and have sealed to them this fruit,
I will come by you into Spain” (Romans 15:25-28).

Ah! Did you catch it? It was not money, but fruit that was being sealed for shipment to
the poor saints at Jerusalem! (The Greek word can also refer to grain, wine, and other
produce which can be stored a long time without spoiling.)

Now turn back to 1?Corinthians 16. Paul is speaking concerning a collection for the saints.
Upon the first day of the week each one of them is instructed to do what? Look at it!
Does it say drop a coin in the collection plate at a church service? Not at all!

It says, “[L]et every one of you lay by him in STORE.” Note it! Lay by! Store up!
Store up by himself—at home! Not lay by at the church house—lay by him—at home.

Now why? “[T]hat there be no gatherings when I come.” Men gather fruit out of the orchard
—they gather vegetables out of the ground, to be stored up. But putting coins in a collection
plate at church, or handing in your tithe envelope could not be called a gathering,
but an offering or collection.

Notice further: “And when I come, whomsoever ye shall approve by your letters,
them will I send to bring your liberality unto Jerusalem. And if it be meet that I go also,
they [more than one] shall go with me” (verses 3-4).

Apparently it was going to require several men to carry this collection, gathered and stored up,
to Jerusalem. If it were tithe or offering for the minister or the spread of the gospel,
Paul could have carried the money alone.


the last and final text in the Bible where we find “the first day of the week”
mentioned, it is again a workday—a day for gathering fruit and food out of the orchards and
the fields and gardens, and storing it up. It was to be the first labor of the week,
hence the first day of the week, as soon as the Sabbath was past!


again I will claim the truth there is { NO } verse in the bible
that authorized the Sabbath change to sunday but only mans doing,

 

[Grandpa]

Hebrews 7:11-16
[SUP]11 [/SUP]If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
[SUP]12 [/SUP]For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.


What is the change that was made to the law?

Verse 16 answers it. It is changed from a carnal commandment, one that you must work at to fulfill, to power given for eternal life.

I suppose if you still insist on a saturday sabbath then you are probably confused on who your High Priest is. And if you aren't confused then you are purposely leading Christians astray.

I assume you are confused. Benefit of the doubt...

 

[posthuman]

good news! we don't have to write 10,000 words in 100 threads to make this point.
just look at what Christ plainly said here --

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
(Matthew 5:17-18)
​

not a jot or tittle will pass away until all is fulfilled.
He came to fulfill the law.

does Hebrews 7-8 make more sense now?

thank our sister Therese for pointing this out to me on another website -- i wanted to share with all my beloved here too

 

[prove-all]

What is the change that was made to the law?

Hebrews 7:11-16

the handwriting of requirements


"And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh,
He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,
having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us,

which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way,
having nailed it to the cross".

the last chapter of the last book of the Bible teaches:

"Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to
the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city" (Revelation 22:14).

Since it is only "those who do His commandments...{who} have the right
to enter...the city" , the ten commandments could not be "contrary to us."

Actually, it is only those who will not keep the ten commandments that are denied access.
Revelation specifically shows that those who break one of at least four of
the ten commandments will be outside God's city (Revelation 22:15).

the ten commandments were not "nailed to the cross," what was?
Look again at what the Bible actually says (two translations):

14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us,
which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way,
having nailed it to the cross (Colossians 2:14, NKJV)

14 having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us,
which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way,
having nailed it to the cross.. (Colossians 2:14, NASB)


The handwriting of requirements (often also called the hand-writing of ordinances)
or certificate of debt was wiped away and nailed to the stake, which some call a cross

Which requirements were wiped out?

the expression "the handwriting of requirements" (cheirógrafon toís dógmasin)
is a Greek legal expression that signifies the penalty which a lawbreaker had to pay

--it does not signify the laws that are to be obeyed--only the penalty. It is only through
the acceptance of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ that the penalty was wiped out
("the handwriting of requirements").

But only the penalty, not the law!

Even some Protestant commentators realize this is so.
Notice what Matthew Henry's Commentary on the Whole Bible states about Colossians 2:14:

Whatever was in force against us is taken out of the way. He has obtained for us
a legal discharge from the hand-writing of ordinances, which was against us (v. 14),
which may be understood,

1. Of that obligation to punishment in which consists the guilt of sin. The curse of the law is
the hand-writing against us, like the hand-writing on Belshazzar's wall. Cursed is every one
who continues not in every thing. This was a hand-writing which was against us, and contrary
to us; for it threatened our eternal ruin.

This was removed when he redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us,
Gal 3:13. (from Matthew Henry's Commentary on the Whole Bible: New Modern Edition,
Electronic Database. Copyright (c) 1991 by Hendrickson Publishers, Inc.).

In addition, let us look at the Greek term exaleipho translated as "wiped out" in Colossians 2:14:

NT:1813
exaleipho (ex-al-i'-fo); from NT:1537 and NT:218; to smear out, i.e. obliterate (erase tears, figuratively, pardon sin) (Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance
with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright (c) 1994, Biblesoft and International
Bible Translators, Inc.)

In other words, exaleipho has to do with wiping out sin. This is also confirmed in Acts 3:19
where Peter also uses the term exaleipho, which is translated as "blotted out" below:

19 Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out,
so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord.

Hence, it is sin and the related penalties that are to be blotted or wiped out.
And the penalties could vary from "being unclean to the evening" (Leviticus 11:24-28)
to making an offering (Leviticus 5:5-6) to being "cut off from his people" (Leviticus 7:27)
to the death penalty (Exodus 31:14).

This is also confirmed elsewhere in the New Testament:

13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us
(Galatians 3:13). The curse of the law is related to the penalty. And Jesus paid it.

But what about the law of God? Was the law of God to be wiped out? No:

17 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets.
I did not come to destroy but to fulfill (Matthew 5:17)


While some erroneously think that Jesus, for example, did away with the Ten Commandments
by how He led His life, that most certainly was not the view of the early Christians who
continued to keep them[Paul included]

Furthermore, remember that the Bible clearly teaches that sin is lawlessness:

Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. And you know that
He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin. (I John 3:4-5).

Notice that Paul wrote:

Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not!
How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it? (Romans 6:1-2).



Thus the New Testament makes clear that the law of God continues,
thus it was not nailed to the cross or somehow wiped out.

The Bible, however, also shows that the requirements of the Levitical priesthood
(Hebrews 9:1,6-10) sometimes called the law, which were part of the penalty of sin,
were blotted out.

And why?

"For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins...
By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus
once for all" (Hebrews 10:4,10).

Jesus' one sacrifice was and is sufficient--we do not have to sacrifice animals any more!

Another requirement (which is related) would be the death penalty of sin,
as "the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord"
(Romans 6:23) or other specific ceremonial penalties associated with the Old Testament
statutes (such as making a sin offering, being put outside the camp, or washing).



the bible says to prove all things, not [to assume] what others believe.