The Scriptures on - Heaven (D3)

[theStudent]

...One of my absolute favorites.

Is heaven real?

Gen. 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Gen. 14:19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:

1 Kings 8:49 Then hear thou their prayer and their supplication in heaven thy dwelling place, and maintain their cause,

Psalms 11:4 The LORD is in his holy temple, the LORD'S throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.

Psalms 14:2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

Psalms 115:16 The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.

Isaiah 66:1 Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?

Daniel 2:28 But there is a God in heaven that revealeth secrets, and maketh known to the king Nebuchadnezzar what shall be in the latter days. Thy dream, and the visions of thy head upon thy bed, are these;

Matthew 5:
3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:

Matthew 6:
9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 18:10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.

Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

John 3:
27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.
31 He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.

John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

John 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.

1Corinthians 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Colossians 1:
5 For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel;
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Revelation 12:
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

Revelation 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

KNOCK! KNOCK!
Is anyone there (in heaven)?

Psalms 11:4 The LORD is in his holy temple, the LORD'S throne is in heaven:
Isaiah 66:1 Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne,
Daniel 2:28 But there is a God in heaven
Matthew 18:10 ...in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.
John 6:38 For I came down from heaven,


Will people go to heaven?

1 Corinthians 15:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

Romans 8:
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

Matthew 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Luke 22:
28 Ye are they which have continued with me in my temptations.
29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;
30 That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

John 14:
1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.

2 Corinthians 5:1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

1 Thessalonian 4:
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

Revelation 14:
3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.


Why (do they go to heaven)? What will they do?

Daniel 2:
44 "At the time of those kings, the God of heaven will establish a kingdom that will never be destroyed. No other people will be permitted to rule it. It will smash all the other kingdoms and put an end to them. But it will be established forever.
45 This is the stone that you saw cut out from a mountain, but not by humans. It smashed the iron, bronze, clay, silver, and gold. The great God has told you what will happen in the future, Your Majesty. The dream is true, and you can trust that this is its meaning."

Daniel 7:
13 In my visions during the night, I saw among the clouds in heaven someone like the Son of Man. He came to the Ancient One, who has lived for endless years, and was presented to him.
14 He was given power, honor, and a kingdom. People from every province, nation, and language were to serve him. His power is an eternal power that will not be taken away. His kingdom will never be destroyed.
27 The kingdom, along with the power and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven, will be given to the holy people of the Most High. Their kingdom is eternal. All other powers will serve and obey them."

Matthew 6:10 Let your kingdom come. Let your will be done on earth as it is done in heaven.

Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: over these the second death hath no power; but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.


What will they accomplish on earth?

Revelation 21:
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth are passed away; and the sea is no more.
2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of the throne saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he shall dwell with them, and they shall be his peoples, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God:
4 and he shall wipe away every tear from their eyes; and death shall be no more; neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain, any more: the first things are passed away.
5 And he that sitteth on the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he saith, Write: for these words are faithful and true.


For more of the blessings that man will experience on earth at that time, see this thread:
What will happen to the earth? Post #34

 

[theStudent]

Matthew 24:14
When the good news about the kingdom has been preached all over the world and told to all nations, the end will come.

 

[theStudent]

Under Jesus' Kingdom rule, and the earth is cleaned...

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Isaiah 65:22
They will not build homes and have others live there. They will not plant and have others eat from it.
My people will live as long as trees, and my chosen ones will enjoy what they've done.


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[theStudent]

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God's Kingdom - in the hand, or on the shoulders of his anointed son, will destroy all man-made rule - Daniel 2:44

God's Kingdom will then be the only Government ruling the entire earth. - Daniel 7:13, 14
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The saints will rule with him. - Daniel 7:27

The Kingdom will rule over righteous people on the earth, during the thousand years (Millennium Rule) - Matthew 19:28; Luke 22:28-30; Revelation 7; Revelation 20:6

Under Christ's Kingdom blessings will stream to the earth... Psalms 72

They will weep no more, nor die from the sin passed on by Adam. Therefore, no one will get old, or sick. No cripple will be there, for God will take of them. No child will be born to die. None will have a defect. No wicked person will be there, and the dead will return to life. - Revelation 21:3, 4; Isaiah 33:24; Isaiah 35; Isaiah 65:17-25; Psalms 37; John 11:24-27

The whole earth will be at peace.
Psalms 145:16 You open your hands and give every living thing all that it needs.




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When Christ has brought everything under control, he will hand the Kingdom back over to his Father. - 1 Corinthians 15:20-28

Then God himself will deal with the evil one... personally. Woe is he that dare challenge the almighty to his face. - Revelation 20:7-10

Then the 'Lord's Prayer' or the 'Our Father' will be fulfilled. - Matthew 6:9, 10
The name of God is sanctified in the complete sense, and God's will is being done on earth, as it is being done in heaven.



This is the good news about the kingdom.
The good news given first to the one who had the responsibility to preach it far and wide.

Isaiah 61:
1 The Spirit of the Lord Jehovah is upon me; because Jehovah hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the broken-hearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
2 to proclaim the year of Jehovah's favor, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;
3 to appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them a garland for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they may be called trees of righteousness, the planting of Jehovah, that he may be glorified.


That truly is good news.
What a beautiful earth await those will will be blessed by the bride of the lamb! Amen.

 

[RobbyEarl]

Heaven is a planet, There are trees there and a sea of glass, Many mansions are there and the throne, With mountains and many creatures. It's a planet and it will be transferred to Earth at the end of the 1K reign.

 

[theStudent]

Heaven is a planet, There are trees there and a sea of glass, Many mansions are there and the throne, With mountains and many creatures. It's a planet and it will be transferred to Earth at the end of the 1K reign.

...and there are fearsome beasts on this earth. Some with seven heads and ten horns, and crowns too, on those horns.

Some of those beast have wings, and some speak.
Some have eyes on their horns.

And you know what... man has never seen them - literally. So this must not be a planet, but the figment of man's imagination.

Please don't take that personal, but RobbyEarl, if we take every sacred passage in the bible literally, the bible to us would become a mine field of confusion.

Moreover, if we try to bend it to suit our desires or beliefs, it's not going to go too well for us.

 

[abcdef]

Rev 20:11...

 

[theStudent]

Rev 20:11...

Sorry about what you might have seen earlier.
I thought I was replying to another post.

 

[abcdef]

You tell me what it means.

 

[theStudent]

Rev 20:11...

Well since I don't believe that the heave, and earth, are literal... (I'll be back with those scriptures).

In the meantime, consider how this translation puts it.

Rev 20:11 I saw a great white throne with someone sitting on it. Earth and heaven tried to run away, but there was no place for them to go.

 

[abcdef]

Really?

Which commentary is that from?

 

[theStudent]

Really?

Which commentary is that from?

It's the Common English Version (CEV).

 

[abcdef]

Gee, isn't that funny, my Bible and all the translations that I have say just the reverse about heaven and earth, it says that they fled away and no place is found for them.

Please tell me who is the 144000?

 

[theStudent]

Gee, isn't that funny, my Bible and all the translations that I have say just the reverse about heaven and earth, it says that they fled away and no place is found for them.

Please tell me who is the 144000?

Isn't that the easiest part of the scripture?

Rev 14:
1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

Luke 22:
28 Ye are they which have continued with me in my temptations.
29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;
30 That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Revelation 7:
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand. etc...

1 Corinthians 15:
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

Romans 8:
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

Romans 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

Are they not the saints that will rule with him?


But I think what is presenting more of a challenge, is who are the twelve tribes of Israel.
Luke 22:30; Revelation 7:4-8

 

[abcdef]

I think that the question would be, not if they rule, but when?

 

[theStudent]

I think that the question would be, not if they rule, but when?

That statement raises two questions.
1. Where does it say they rule?
and...
2. Whom do they rule?

And here are the scriptures where Heavens is in use symbolically:

Isaiah 1:2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the LORD hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.


Isaiah 34:
1 Come near, ye nations, to hear; and hearken, ye people: let the earth hear, and all that is therein; the world, and all things that come forth of it.
2 For the indignation of the LORD is upon all nations, and his fury upon all their armies: he hath utterly destroyed them, he hath delivered them to the slaughter.
3 Their slain also shall be cast out, and their stink shall come up out of their carcases, and the mountains shall be melted with their blood.
4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.
5 For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, and upon the people of my curse, to judgment.
6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.


Haggai 2:
21 Speak to Zerubbabel, governor of Judah, saying, I will shake the heavens and the earth;
22 And I will overthrow the throne of kingdoms, and I will destroy the strength of the kingdoms of the heathen; and I will overthrow the chariots, and those that ride in them; and the horses and their riders shall come down, every one by the sword of his brother.


Compare above verses in Haggai
Hebrews 12:
26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
29 For our God is a consuming fire.


2 Peter 3:
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

 

[abcdef]

Good non-answer

 

[theStudent]

Good non-answer

Where does it say they rule?
Nowhere. So the answer would be, They don't.

 

[abcdef]

They live and reign with Jesus for 1000yrs (symbolic)

 

[Ahwatukee]

They live and reign with Jesus for 1000yrs (symbolic)

Hi John,

Please provide the scripture(s) that support the 1000 years as being symbolic opposed to what the scripture literally and actually states. In other words, please show us what it is in the description of the 1000 years that is moving you to apply a symbolic meaning.

Thanks.