THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION

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A Speech by Paul Harvey -- If I were the Devil --
* I would gain control of the most powerful nation in the world.

* I would delude their minds into thinking that they had come from mans effort, instead of God's blessings.

* I would promote an attitude of loving things and using people, instead of the other way around.

* I would dupe entire states into relying on gambling for their revenue.

* I would convince people that character is not an issue when it comes to leadership.

* I would make it legal to take life of unborn babies.

* I would make it socially acceptable to take one's own life, and invent machines to make it convenient.

* I would cheapen human life as much as possible so that life of animals are valued more than human beings.

* I would take God out of the schools, where even the mention of His name was grounds for a lawsuit.

* I would come up with drugs that sedate the mind and target they young, and I would
get sports heroes to advertise them.

* I would get control of the media, so that every night I could pollute the minds of every
family member for my agenda.

* I would attack then family, the backbone of any nation. I would make divorce
acceptable and easy, even fashionable. If the family crumbles, so does the nation.

* I would compel people to express their most depraved fantasies on canvas and movies
screens, and I would call it art.

* I would convince the world that people are born homosexuals, and that their lifestyles
should be accepted and marveled.

* I would convince the people the people that right and wrong are determined by a few
who call themselves authorities and refer to their agendas as politically correct.

* I would persuade people that the church is irrelevant and out of date, the Bible is for the naive.

* I would dull the minds of Christians, and make them believe that prayer is no important,
and that faithfulness and obedience are optional.

* I GUESS I WOULD LEAVE THINGS PRETTY MUCH THE WAY THEY ARE!
 
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THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION
- A one page summary

The document consists of twenty-four "protocols", which have been analyzed by Steven
Jacobs and Mark Weitzman, and they documented several recurrent themes that appear
repeatedly in the 24 protocols, as shown below and in the following table:

Goyim are mentally inferior to Jews and can't run their nations properly. For their sake
and ours, we need to abolish their governments and replace them with a single
government. This will take a long time and involve much bloodshed, but it's for a good
cause. Here's what we'll need to do:


THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION
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* Place our agents and helpers everywhere
* Take control of the media and use it in propaganda for our plans
* Start fights between different races, classes and religions
* Use bribery, threats and blackmail to get our way
* Use Freemasonic Lodges to attract potential public officials
* Appeal to successful people's egos
* Appoint puppet leaders who can be controlled by blackmail
* Replace royal rule with socialist rule, then communism, then despotism
* Abolish all rights and freedoms, except the right of force by us
* Sacrifice people (including Jews sometimes) when necessary
* Eliminate religion; replace it with science and materialism
* Control the education system to spread deception and destroy intellect
* Rewrite history to our benefit
* Create entertaining distractions
* Corrupt minds with filth and perversion
* Encourage people to spy on one another
* Keep the masses in poverty and perpetual labor
* Take possession of all wealth, property and (especially) gold
* Use gold to manipulate the markets, cause depressions etc.
* Introduce a progressive tax on wealth
* Replace sound investment with speculation
* Make long-term interest-bearing loans to governments
* Give bad advice to governments and everyone else

Eventually the Goyim will be so angry with their governments (because
we'll blame them for the resulting mess) that they'll gladly have us take
over. We will then appoint a descendant of David to be king of the
world, and the remaining Goyim will bow down and sing his praises.
Everyone will live in peace and obedient order under his glorious rule.


Link -->>
Protocols of Zion in Modern English
THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION (complete protocols & summary)

Link -->> http://truthordenial.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/the-protocols-of-zion.doc
Downloadable small text file-Protocols

Link -->> The Protocols Of Zion
 
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THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION

The document consists of twenty-four "protocols", which have been analyzed by Steven
Jacobs and Mark Weitzman, and they documented several recurrent themes that appear
repeatedly in the 24 protocols,[17] as shown in the following table:



THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION

Introduction

Goyim are mentally inferior to Jews and can't run their nations properly. For their sake
and ours, we need to abolish their governments and replace them with a single
government. This will take a long time and involve much bloodshed, but it's for a good
cause. Here's what we'll need to do:

* Protocol I - The Basic Doctrine - "Right Lies in Might" - Freedom and Liberty;
Authority and power; Gold = money

*
Protocol II - Economic Wars - Economic War and Disorganization Lead to
International Government - International Political economic conspiracy; Press/Media as tools

*
Protocol III - Methods of Conquest - Jewish people, arrogant and corrupt;
Chosenness/Election; Public Service

*
Protocol IV - Materialism Replace Religion - The Destruction of Religion by
Materialism Business as Cold and Heartless; Gentiles as slaves

*
Protocol V - Despotism and Modern Progress - Jewish Ethics; Jewish People's
Relationship to Larger Society

*
Protocol VI - Take-Over Technique - The Acquisition of Land, The Encouragement of
Speculation Ownership of land

*
Protocol VII - World-Wide Wars - A Prophecy of Worldwide War Internal unrest
and discord (vs. Court system) leading to war vs Shalom/Peace

*
Protocol VIII - Provisional Government - The transitional Government Criminal
element

*
Protocol IX - Re-education - The All-Embracing Propaganda - Law; education; *(note 1)
Masonry/Freemasonry

*
Protocol X - Preparing for Power - Abolition of the Constitution; *(note 1) Rise of
the Autocracy Politics; Majority rule; Liberalism; Family

*
Protocol XI - The Totalitarian State - The Constitution of Autocracy and Universal
Rule Gentiles; Jewish political involvement; Masonry

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Protocol XII - Control of the Press - The Kingdom of the Press and Control Liberty;
Press censorship; Publishing

*
Protocol XIII - Distractions - Turning Public Thought from Essentials to
Non-essentials Gentiles; Business; Chosenness/Election; Press and censorship;
Liberalism

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Protocol XIV - Assault on Religion - The Destruction of Religion as a Prelude to the
Rise of the Jewish God Judaism; God; Gentiles; Liberty; Pornography

*
Protocol XV - Ruthless Suppression - Utilization of Masonry: Heartless Suppression
of Enemies - Gentiles; Masonry; Sages of Israel; Political power and authority; King of
Israel

*
Protocol XVI - Brainwashing - The Nullification of Education

*
Protocol XVII - Abuse of Authority - The Fate of Lawyers and the Clergy Lawyers;
Clergy; Christianity and non-Jewish Authorship

*
Protocol XVIII - Arrest of Opponents *(note 1) - The Organization of Disorder Evil; Speech;

*
Protocol XIX - Rulers and People - Mutual Understanding Between Ruler and
People Gossip; Martyrdom

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Protocol XX - Financial Programme - The Financial Program and Construction Taxes
and Taxation; Loans; Bonds; Usury; Moneylending

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Protocol XXI - Loans and Credit - Domestic Loans and Government Credit
Stock Markets and Stock Exchanges

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Protocol XXII - Power of Gold - The Beneficence of Jewish Rule Gold = Money;
Chosenness/Election

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Protocol XXIII - Instilling Obedience - The Inculcation of Obedience
Obedience to Authority; Slavery; Chosenness/Election

*
Protocol XXIV - Qualities of the Ruler - The Jewish Ruler - Kingship; Document as Fiction

*
Epilogue
* Appendix

*Note 1
I have in the past been arrested and jailed because of an Educational Issue, Curriculum,
Homosexuality, relating to a School Principal and a Superintendent and DIRECTLY relating
to Murray Miron and Syracuse University, and indirectly to Naom Chomsky. (A story for
another day). The case was dismissed as they dared not allow trial, in violation of my
demands and CIVIL RIGHT to free speech and to petition the government and free
exercise of religion. The dismissal thus amounts to Habeas Corpus (LAW), Denial of trial
and right to face accusers --- WHERE ARE MY ACCUSERS?


Link -->> Protocols of Zion in Modern English
THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION (complete protocols & summary)

Link -->> http://truthordenial.files.wordpress...ls-of-zion.doc
Downloadable small text file-Protocols

Link -->> The Protocols Of Zion

Link -->> The Protocols of the Elders of Zion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

One might also note, Division amongst Tribes, Ethnicities and Races. Division by
Denomination / Religion (ELI, ELI), Country. Division by Unions, Sports, Music,
Entertainment (ELOI, ELOI). Paul Harvey's list makes other good points as well.
 
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Wow a thread that's not among the normal regurgitated topics of today? Yes brother it is important for people to at least be stimulated and informed regarding various ideologies of pagans. The Protocols of Sion have also been traced to the Rite of Mizraim in Paris, to a Mason named Maurice Joly. The Rite of Mizraim is mainly Jewish. The secret order of the Prieure de Sion is also predominantly Jewish. The B'nai B'rith seems to have taken over some of the Rite of Mizraim influence upon Masonry. The Rite of Memphis which is connected with the Rite of Mizraim is not just European as was formally thought, but is apart of America, such as 6- term Governor of Wisconsin Lucius Fairchild who was a 95° Memphis Rite Mason. The Protocols, whether they are of any significance or not any more -because the New Order is so far along that it's out in the open now- were the catalyst to wake people up as to what is transpiring.

A lot of disinformation has been promulgated from the elite against the Protocols too, and it continues to be printed, perhaps by agent provocateurs for the System. The book Warrant for Genocide put out by Yale University (supposedly destroying the credibility of the Protocols) was such poor attempt to discredit the Protocols that it made people think that they must be valid. Warrant for Genocide makes it appear that all "anti-semitism" comes from crazy people who use the Protocols. The Protocols themselves speak of a Masonic conspiracy, not a Jewish conspiracy. So this is not, in any way a demonstration of anti-Semitism.
 
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Wow a thread that's not among the normal regurgitated topics of today? Yes brother it is important for people to at least be stimulated and informed regarding various ideologies of pagans. The Protocols of Sion have also been traced to the Rite of Mizraim in Paris, to a Mason named Maurice Joly. The Rite of Mizraim is mainly Jewish. The secret order of the Prieure de Sion is also predominantly Jewish. The B'nai B'rith seems to have taken over some of the Rite of Mizraim influence upon Masonry. The Rite of Memphis which is connected with the Rite of Mizraim is not just European as was formally thought, but is apart of America, such as 6- term Governor of Wisconsin Lucius Fairchild who was 95° are Memphis Rite Masons. The Protocols, whether they are of any significance or not any more -because the New Order is so far along that it's out in the open now- were the catalyst to wake people up as to what is transpiring.

A lot of disinformation has been promulgated from the elite against the Protocols too, and it continues to be printed, perhaps by agent provocateurs for the System. The book Warrant for Genocide put out by Yale University (supposedly destroying the credibility of the Protocols) was such poor attempt to discredit the Protocols that it made people think that they must be valid.
Warrant for Genocide makes it appear that all "anti-semitism" comes from crazy people who use the Protocols. The Protocols themselves speak of a Masonic conspiracy, not a Jewish conspiracy. So this is not, in any way a demonstration of anti-Semitism.
Good background, summary, overview - I agree that it should not be about persons or a
group -- but about behaviors, mindset and practices - AND, the call to awareness and
repentance such as to overcome.


 

dscherck

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Ahh, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a very well known FAKE.
 
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The Protocols themselves speak of a Masonic conspiracy, not a Jewish conspiracy. So this is not, in any way a demonstration of anti-Semitism.
If its Masonic then its Jewish (Talmudic).

Judaism and Freemasonry. Enter the Noachites.


Critisizing the Judaic religious system (Talmudism) is not "antisemitic" anyway. Semitism is a racial issue whereas Judaism is a religious system. Jews are not a race they are a religion. A false one.
 
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Whats the difference if their fake or real?

They are being followed to the letter.
By who?

I was Jewish for quite a long time, and never heard of these protocols. In fact, none of my friends have either. We were all completely at a loss as to what we were supposed to be doing, or who we're supposed to be controlling. If we really were supposed to be secretly controlling the world, we've really done a bad job of it. No meetings, no memos, no phone calls at three in the morning. Not even a birthday card for us to sign for our supervisors, or a candy jar on the secretaries desk. No secretary either. I personally would have loved to have been put in charge of Hollywood because Elizabeth Hurley is really cute and maybe I could get a date with her that way.

So, if there's some Jewish Conspiracy out there, would someone please do us a favor and let us know because it's apparently so secret a conspiracy that no one ever told the Jews about it.
 
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Ahh, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a very well known FAKE.

Fake... Are u siding with the Masons now or the question I should be asking, "are you one"?
 
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DiscipleWilliam

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If its Masonic then its Jewish (Talmudic).

Judaism and Freemasonry. Enter the Noachites.


Critisizing the Judaic religious system (Talmudism) is not "antisemitic" anyway. Semitism is a racial issue whereas Judaism is a religious system. Jews are not a race they are a religion. A false one.
"If its Masonic then its Jewish"- thats not true at all lol. It would be better stated, "if its Masonic then its Babylonian, Egyptian or New-Age." Furthermore, Semitism/anti-Semitism is NOT a racial issue because there is no such thing as multiple "races" anyway. People groups, yes; Nationalities, yes; but multiple races, no. That's Darwinism. Nowhere in the Bible does it ever say that there are multiple races upon the Earth, there is only one race and that's the Adamic race and within this race of people there are numerous nationalities and people groups.
 

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Fake... Are u siding with the Masons now or the question I should be asking, "are you one"?
I am Catholic. Masons don't really care for us much. That said, you don't have to be a Mason to believe this is a fake. It has been proven as such numerous times. It is a complete fake and used only to spread vile slander against the Jews. Indeed, it is frequently quoted by Adolf Hitler and was used to justify some of the evil perpeuated against the Jewish people.

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Ahh, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a very well known FAKE.
* 1936 Nazi official in Switzerland, Wilhelm Gustloff, is murdered by 17-year old Jew David
Frankfurter allegedly because Gustloff widely distributed the “Protocols of the Elders of
Zion”
, a so-called anti-Semitic forgery, which purports to outline the Zionist plan for world
domination. (Note: Whether it was actually written by Jews or is pure gentile fiction, that
world events mirror its plan is undeniable. What is important about The Protocols is the
phenomenon it describes, not the motive of its author). Feuerzeichen (review)


SOME ADDITIONAL INSIGHTS:

*
“I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire upon
which the sun never sets. The man that controls Britain’s money supply controls the
British Empire. And I control the money supply.”
- Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild (1773-1855),
London financier, one of the founders of the international Rothschild banking dynasty.



“Let me issue and control a nation’s money, and I care not who writes its laws.” - Mayer
Amschel Bauer Rothschild
(1773-1855), London financier, one of the founders of the
international Rothschild banking dynasty, 1838.


* “Some even believe we [the Rockefeller family] are part of a secret cabal working
against the best interests of the United States
, characterizing my family and me as
‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more
integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the
charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
- David Rockefeller, David Rockefeller: Memoirs, p. 405.


* “The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government
combining super capitalism and Communism under the same tent
, all under their
control….Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot,
international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent.” -
Congressman Larry [Lawrence] P. McDonald, foreword to The Rockefeller File, 1976, killed
in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by Soviets.



* “The division of the United States into federations of equal force was decided long
before the Civil War
by the high financial powers of Europe. These bankers were afraid
that the United States, if they remained in one block and as one nation, would attain
economic and financial independence, which would upset their financial domination over
the world. The voice of the Rothschilds prevailed…Therefore they sent their emissaries
into the field to exploit the question of slavery and to open an abyss between the two
sections of the Union.” - Otto von Bismarck (1815-1898), Founder of the German Empire,
Prime minister of Prussia, Germany’s First Chancellor, after the Lincoln assassination.



* “I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to
tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been
enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the
country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people
until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed.
I feel at this
moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of
war.” - Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865), President, Questionable. Supposedly written in
reference to the passage of the National Banking Act of 1863 less than five months before
he was assassinated in a letter to one Col. William F. Elkins, referenced in Emanuel Hertz’s
1931 book: Abraham Lincoln
: A New Portrait, found on page 40 of The Lincoln
Encyclopedia, by Archer H. Shaw (Macmillan, 1950, NY), and Jack London’s, book Iron Heel
,1908.
 
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By who?

I was Jewish for quite a long time, and never heard of these protocols. In fact, none of my friends have either. We were all completely at a loss as to what we were supposed to be doing, or who we're supposed to be controlling. If we really were supposed to be secretly controlling the world, we've really done a bad job of it. No meetings, no memos, no phone calls at three in the morning. Not even a birthday card for us to sign for our supervisors, or a candy jar on the secretaries desk. No secretary either. I personally would have loved to have been put in charge of Hollywood because Elizabeth Hurley is really cute and maybe I could get a date with her that way.

So, if there's some Jewish Conspiracy out there, would someone please do us a favor and let us know because it's apparently so secret a conspiracy that no one ever told the Jews about it.
The Protocols are not for "Jews" but for a high level cabal of ZIONISTS
who are also JEWS. The concept is to make Jews (and others) think
they are a part of it by ethnicity, and some favoritism as they are placed
into work situations that promote the Protocols. Creating the
Environment, be it Economic, Political, Religious, Education, Law,
Sports, Music, Entertainment, Media, Medicine, Construction, or
other ... the rest falls into place, and people, by contrivance, brain
washing, propaganda and simple Human Nature (Pride, Greed, Lust ...
etc.)
all fall in to their roles. The protocols state that 'Jews' are not a
part of the sytem, just as Goyem are not. Jews are just needed as a
cover, and as workers for a time -- scraps from the table fed to the dogs
... be it jews or mormons, catholics or (low-level) masons, blacks or
chinese etc.


The system runs when people play their part in the system and
promote ZION by these ID and EGO reactions to Flesh and Self, --
Craving and Desire ...
The System tops out in each Pyramid Scam, and
must be destroyed, Terrorism, War, Disease, Economic Depression,
promotion of Substance and Person abuse and etc.
 
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Ah, the belief in the Illuminati.
 

zone

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Ah, the belief in the Illuminati.

The American Spectator : Saul Alinsky Takes the White House

Rules for Radicals
By Saul Alinsky - 1971
7. Tactics

"Tactics are those conscious deliberate acts by which human beings live with each other and deal with the world around them. ... Here our concern is with the tactic of taking; how the Have-Nots can take power away from the Haves." p.126

Always remember the first rule of power tactics (pps.127-134):

1. "Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have."

2. "Never go outside the expertise of your people. When an action or tactic is outside the experience of the people, the result is confusion, fear and retreat.... [and] the collapse of communication.

3. "Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy. Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)

4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity."

5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage."

6. "A good tactic is one your people enjoy."

7. "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Man can sustain militant interest in any issue for only a limited time...."

8. "Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose."

9. "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself."

10. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign."

11. "If you push a negative hard and deep enough, it will break through into its counterside... every positive has its negative."

12. "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative."

13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. In conflict tactics there are certain rules that [should be regarded] as universalities. One is that the opposition must be singled out as the target and 'frozen.'...

"...any target can always say, 'Why do you center on me when there are others to blame as well?' When your 'freeze the target,' you disregard these [rational but distracting] arguments.... Then, as you zero in and freeze your target and carry out your attack, all the 'others' come out of the woodwork very soon. They become visible by their support of the target...'

"One acts decisively only in the conviction that all the angels are on one side and all the devils on the other." (pps.127-134)


Alinsky's Rules for Radicals: "Known as the 'father of modern American radicalism,' Saul D. Alinsky (1909-1972) developed strategies and tactics that take the enormous, unfocused emotional energy of grassroots groups and transform it into effective anti-government and anti-corporate activism. ... Some of these rules are ruthless, but they work."

http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/alinsky.htm

~

Saul Alinsky’s son: “Obama learned his lesson well”

Judi McLeod Tuesday, September 2, 2008



In Artful Dodger style, Barack Obama, plays down his mentorship with Communist author Saul Alinsky. But Alinsky’s son, L. David Alinsky, credits Obama for “learning his lesson well” from the Communist guru.

Indeed, Alinsky Jr. who credits his late father for the success of last week’s Democratic National Convention, may have done something that Obama’s detractors couldn’t: blown the cover on the presidential hopeful’s communist leanings....

....“Alinsky considered himself a realist above all, the ultimate pragmatist.” (American Thinker, Aug. 30, 2008). “As a confirmed atheist, Alinsky believed that the here and now is all there is, and therefore had no qualms about assorted versions of morality in the pursuit of worldly power. He didn’t coddle his radical acolytes or encourage their bourgeois distinctions between good and evil when it came to transferring power from the Haves to the Have Nots. Alinsky saw the already formed church communities as being the perfect springboards for agitation and creating bonds for demanding goods and services.”

Obama followed the same path.

It is a fact that activist-cum senator Barack Hussein Obama started off his career as an activist with a position as a community organizer for the Developing Communities Project (DCP) of the Calumet Community Religious conference (CCRC) in Chicago. Both the CCRC and the DCP were built on the Alinsky model of community agitation, wherein paid organizers learned, in Alinsky’s own words, how to “rub raw the sores of discontent”.

Meanwhile L. David Alinsky, perhaps unwittingly put Obama into the proper perspective by stating without reservation: “Obama learned his lesson well.”
Saul Alinsky’s son: “Obama learned his lesson well”
 
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The American Spectator : Saul Alinsky Takes the White House

....“Alinsky considered himself a realist above all, the ultimate pragmatist.” (American Thinker, Aug. 30, 2008). “As a confirmed atheist, Alinsky believed that the here and now is all there is, and therefore had no qualms about assorted versions of morality in the pursuit of worldly power. He didn’t coddle his radical acolytes or encourage their bourgeois distinctions between good and evil when it came to transferring power from the Haves to the Have Nots.

Alinsky saw the already formed church communities as being the perfect springboards for agitation and creating bonds for demanding goods and services.”

Saul Alinsky’s son: “Obama learned his lesson well”
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zone

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Communitarianism & The Third Way (2002-2004)
“While governments across the world search for a new political synthesis, the theoretical debate has offered little those interested in a new framework for progressive politics. This essay presents an account of what the Third Way really means, and roots it in a communitarian vision of the good society. It argues that such societies achieve a dynamic balance between state, market and community...." Amitai Etzioni, Communitarianism: A Third Way to a Good Society
 
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systemdown101

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Zone, I ... don't exactly understand what you're trying to tell me. I mean, I know you're trying to tell me something, but I'm not sure what. Are you holding these groups up as serious ideas, or showing how ridiculous they are?

Remember, I'm senile.