Halloween Thought

[Katy-follower]

Halloween is the only night of the year, in our culture, where lost people actually go door-to-door to saved people's homes.

Rather than have your own Christian alternative on Halloween, you should be at home waiting for the door. This is the perfect opportunity to meet hundreds of people in one night... our Pagan neighbors.

I've read that some will set up tents in their yard, giving out water and coffee, along with candy and tracts. Sounds like a great idea!!

I found some Christian tracts online: Halloween by American Tract Society - some of these quote from the NIV bible. I can't find any NKJV ones. If you do, let me know.

Ready for Halloween?




Correct me if I'm wrong here....

(What originally happened on 31st Oct?)
It was the day of the reformation.


(History of Halloween)
Halloween, celebrated each year on October 31, is a mix of ancient Celtic practices, Catholic and Roman religious rituals and European folk traditions that blended together over time to create the holiday we know today. Straddling the line between fall and winter, plenty and paucity and life and death, Halloween is a time of celebration and superstition. Halloween has long been thought of as a day when the dead can return to the earth, and ancient Celts would light bonfires and wear costumes to ward off these roaming ghosts. The Celtic holiday of Samhain, the Catholic Hallowmas period of All Saints' Day and All Souls' Day and the Roman festival of Feralia all influenced the modern holiday of Halloween. In the 19th century, Halloween began to lose its religious connotation, becoming a more secular community-based children's holiday. Although the superstitions and beliefs surrounding Halloween may have evolved over the years, as the days grow shorter and the nights get colder, people can still look forward to parades, costumes and sweet treats to usher in the winter season.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Grim Grinning Ghosts - YouTube

'When the crypt doors creak
And the tombstones quake
Spooks come out for a singing wake
Happy haunts materialize
And begin to vocalize
Grim grinning ghosts come out to socialize

Now don't close your eyes
And don't try to hide
Or a silly spook may sit by your side
Shrouded in a daft disguise
They pretend to terrorize
Grim grinning ghosts come out to socialize

As the moon climbs high o'er dead oak tree
Spooks arrive for the midnight spree
Creepy creeps with eerie eyes
Start to shriek and harmonize
Grim grinning ghosts come out socialize

When you hear the knell of a requiem bell
Weird glows gleam where spirits dwell
Restles bones etherealize
Rise as spooks of every size
Grim grinning ghosts come out to socialize

Grim grinning ghosts come out
Grim grinning ghosts come out
To socialize"

-Grim Grinning Ghosts

 

[jonathanbchristian]

I do not believe that Christians should celebrate Halloween, but I don't see the problem with trying to evangelize people on Halloween. Candy and tracts or whatever you come up with, sounds like a good idea. I personally think it's a good idea to have something to replace bad holidays like Halloween. We should still do something for children and adults. I just do not think we should be part of the traditions of Halloween itself. We can do alot of things to replace the holiday with something else and not dress up as wicked and worldly things. Start celebrating Christ before Christmas. Why not celebrate Christ all year?

 

[SantoSubito]

We never really celebrated Halloween in the traditional sense. We would go to Mass for All Souls Day and then come home light a bonfire cook out and listen to my dad tell stories.

 

[Katy-follower]

I do not believe that Christians should celebrate Halloween, but I don't see the problem with trying to evangelize people on Halloween. Candy and tracts or whatever you come up with, sounds like a good idea. I personally think it's a good idea to have something to replace bad holidays like Halloween. We should still do something for children and adults. I just do not think we should be part of the traditions of Halloween itself. We can do alot of things to replace the holiday with something else and not dress up as wicked and worldly things. Start celebrating Christ before Christmas. Why not celebrate Christ all year?

Absolutely. I don't celebrate Halloween as I know it's not of God, so we shouldn't be involved in it. If you stay at home, it's an opportunity to meet people who come to your door... people who have not been saved. If you have children it is probably good to come up with an alternative to replace Halloween.

 

[duewell]

extortion!! a stranger comes to my house in disguise! then demands tribute!! if tribute is not paid, they threaten mischievous acts!! this is extortion under duress. the sheer atrocities that could befall me leave me with no choice but to pay their ransom. this whole thing operates like a mafia protection racket. then when they leave, another group approaches!! there is no one to help!! this is all done with the consent of the authorities!! i plead and beg with these culprits and they just laugh and hold out their ransom bags. this goes on for hours, usually in broad daylight!! oh the humanity!! i think some of them are even children!! the horror, the horror!!

but this year i came up with a solution. when i answer the door to these extortionist. i will be dressed as santa claus!!!! hah hah hah, the naughty or nice rule will protect me from their demands of trick or treat. cause and effect will most certainly be on my side!! no one wants on the naughty list!! or i could barter, a treat for you now, and in a couple months i will sneak into your house in the middle of the night to eat cookies and drink milk!! sleep on that you little urchins!! the possibilities are endless. i even know an elf who is a dentist hahahahaha hohohoho

Duewell
hebrews 13:2

 

[leelee]

extortion!! a stranger comes to my house in disguise! then demands tribute!! if tribute is not paid, they threaten mischievous acts!! this is extortion under duress. the sheer atrocities that could befall me leave me with no choice but to pay their ransom. this whole thing operates like a mafia protection racket. then when they leave, another group approaches!! there is no one to help!! this is all done with the consent of the authorities!! i plead and beg with these culprits and they just laugh and hold out their ransom bags. this goes on for hours, usually in broad daylight!! oh the humanity!! i think some of them are even children!! the horror, the horror!!

but this year i came up with a solution. when i answer the door to these extortionist. i will be dressed as santa claus!!!! hah hah hah, the naughty or nice rule will protect me from their demands of trick or treat. cause and effect will most certainly be on my side!! no one wants on the naughty list!! or i could barter, a treat for you now, and in a couple months i will sneak into your house in the middle of the night to eat cookies and drink milk!! sleep on that you little urchins!! the possibilities are endless. i even know an elf who is a dentist hahahahaha hohohoho

Duewell
hebrews 13:2

Hehehe, this might actually be genius!

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Please DO take a picture of that and post it so that I may laugh until I cry because that would be hysterical!

extortion!! a stranger comes to my house in disguise! then demands tribute!! if tribute is not paid, they threaten mischievous acts!! this is extortion under duress. the sheer atrocities that could befall me leave me with no choice but to pay their ransom. this whole thing operates like a mafia protection racket. then when they leave, another group approaches!! there is no one to help!! this is all done with the consent of the authorities!! i plead and beg with these culprits and they just laugh and hold out their ransom bags. this goes on for hours, usually in broad daylight!! oh the humanity!! i think some of them are even children!! the horror, the horror!!

but this year i came up with a solution. when i answer the door to these extortionist. i will be dressed as santa claus!!!! hah hah hah, the naughty or nice rule will protect me from their demands of trick or treat. cause and effect will most certainly be on my side!! no one wants on the naughty list!! or i could barter, a treat for you now, and in a couple months i will sneak into your house in the middle of the night to eat cookies and drink milk!! sleep on that you little urchins!! the possibilities are endless. i even know an elf who is a dentist hahahahaha hohohoho

Duewell
hebrews 13:2

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

Question...

Why legitimize something by calling a "Christian" activity an alternative? Wouldn't the non-truth be the alternative?

Why not just choose to celebrate or not; or celebrate the Reformation or All Saints Day as the standard which has been altered to Halloween?

A Christian activity should never be the alternative, IMHO. Any non-Christian activity is the alternative.

 

[G4JC]

AgeofKnowledge: That song was on Disney's Magical Racing Tour (PSX). LOL!

duewell: You totally should get their number, while dressed up like santa clause, then just send them this:
http://www.prankdial.com/pranks/badsanta

Anyway it's a pagan holiday, which can be heavily associated with Satan (to those Pagans who want to bicker about such facts), and has nothing to do with God. IMO, DON'T CELEBRATE IT. This doesn't mean you can't witness to people and pass out tracks. Christians should always take advantage of such things. But we aren't running around dressed up like goblins and letting our children dress up like Harry Potter. (Well... most of us????)

 

[Digital_Angel_316]

Halloween is the only night of the year, in our culture, where lost people actually go door-to-door to saved people's homes.

Rather than have your own Christian alternative on Halloween, you should be at home waiting for the door. This is the perfect opportunity to meet hundreds of people in one night... our Pagan neighbors.

I've read that some will set up tents in their yard, giving out water and coffee, along with candy and tracts. Sounds like a great idea!!

I found some Christian tracts online: Halloween by American Tract Society - some of these quote from the NIV bible. I can't find any NKJV ones. If you do, let me know.

Ready for Halloween?




Correct me if I'm wrong here....

(What originally happened on 31st Oct?)
It was the day of the reformation.


(History of Halloween)
Halloween, celebrated each year on October 31, is a mix of ancient Celtic practices, Catholic and Roman religious rituals and European folk traditions that blended together over time to create the holiday we know today. Straddling the line between fall and winter, plenty and paucity and life and death, Halloween is a time of celebration and superstition. Halloween has long been thought of as a day when the dead can return to the earth, and ancient Celts would light bonfires and wear costumes to ward off these roaming ghosts. The Celtic holiday of Samhain, the Catholic Hallowmas period of All Saints' Day and All Souls' Day and the Roman festival of Feralia all influenced the modern holiday of Halloween. In the 19th century, Halloween began to lose its religious connotation, becoming a more secular community-based children's holiday. Although the superstitions and beliefs surrounding Halloween may have evolved over the years, as the days grow shorter and the nights get colder, people can still look forward to parades, costumes and sweet treats to usher in the winter season.

You're on the right track (tract?) baby, you were born that way -- eh!

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Lol... no kidding?

I don't have the guts to dress up like Santa Clause for Halloween but I think it's hilarious.

All joking aside though, there is a serious side to all of this and I agree with you that Halloween was a pagan event and for various groups (e.g. Wiccans, pagans, etc...) still is a pagan event.

As a Christian I recommend not celebrating it; however, I understand that Christians who do are still forgiven and those that use it as an occassion for evangelism are simply following Christ's command to bring the Gospel to a lost world.

I will either go to a Christian alternative event or hand out Christian gospel tracts with candy.

AgeofKnowledge: That song was on Disney's Magical Racing Tour (PSX). LOL!

duewell: You totally should get their number, while dressed up like santa clause, then just send them this:
PrankDial - Bad Santa Prank Call

Anyway it's a pagan holiday, which can be heavily associated with Satan (to those Pagans who want to bicker about such facts), and has nothing to do with God. IMO, DON'T CELEBRATE IT. This doesn't mean you can't witness to people and pass out tracks. Christians should always take advantage of such things. But we aren't running around dressed up like goblins and letting our children dress up like Harry Potter. (Well... most of us????)

 

[maddy]

I do not believe that Christians should celebrate Halloween, but I don't see the problem with trying to evangelize people on Halloween. Candy and tracts or whatever you come up with, sounds like a good idea. I personally think it's a good idea to have something to replace bad holidays like Halloween. We should still do something for children and adults. I just do not think we should be part of the traditions of Halloween itself. We can do alot of things to replace the holiday with something else and not dress up as wicked and worldly things. Start celebrating Christ before Christmas. Why not celebrate Christ all year?

Amen! Holloween should not be celebrated by Christian. Holloween is a holiday, on holidays we usually celebrate someone, so who are we celebrating? I would not want Jesus to come and find me dress as a witch or the devil when I'm suppose to be his child.

 

[NarrowRoadDisciple]

Do you understand where the term trick or treat comes from?
Essentially it's where you either give them a treat or be cursed by their pagan gods ... i forgot which one.
Halloween has been and always will be a satanic holiday and we should have nothing to do with it.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

I dressed up once like Security Man (see Bruce Willis in the movie Unbreakable) and walked around the neighborhood with a flashlight and my neighborhood watch credential displayed as part of the Holiday neighborhood watch effort where I live while witnessing to the parents of trick and treaters.

I don't believe that counts as celebrating a Satanic holiday with pagans though your conscience may be so weak that you believe it does.

Do you understand where the term trick or treat comes from?
Essentially it's where you either give them a treat or be cursed by their pagan gods ... i forgot which one.
Halloween has been and always will be a satanic holiday and we should have nothing to do with it.

 

[Digital_Angel_316]

Amen! Holloween should not be celebrated by Christian. Holloween is a holiday, on holidays we usually celebrate someone, so who are we celebrating? I would not want Jesus to come and find me dress as a witch or the devil when I'm suppose to be his child.

See also, and please read and contribute to the Thread on this Forum:

WHAT IS BAAL WORSHIP TODAY?
Link -->> http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/28861-what-baal-worship-today.html

 

[FSUBoy966]

Do you understand where the term trick or treat comes from?
Essentially it's where you either give them a treat or be cursed by their pagan gods ... i forgot which one.
Halloween has been and always will be a satanic holiday and we should have nothing to do with it.

That's not true at all lol
that term came from children who would cause mischief around that person's house unless they were given candy or sweets.

Halloween was originally Samhain, a holiday celebrating the end of October, traditionally not having anything to do with any gods, just a harvest culture holiday. Only later did Samhain come to be associated with the belief that the realms of the living and dead blur on that day. Catholics tried to replace it with All Saints Day, which eventually became Halloween b/c of the traditional folk traditions.

Spoiler Alert: Halloween isn't evil. It's a secular holiday.

 

[Digital_Angel_316]

That's not true at all lol
that term came from children who would cause mischief around that person's house unless they were given candy or sweets.

Halloween was originally Samhain, a holiday celebrating the end of October, traditionally not having anything to do with any gods, just a harvest culture holiday. Only later did Samhain come to be associated with the belief that the realms of the living and dead blur on that day. Catholics tried to replace it with All Saints Day, which eventually became Halloween b/c of the traditional folk traditions.

Spoiler Alert: Halloween isn't evil. It's a secular holiday.

Only PARTLY True about Samhain - a more thorough *(but not comprehensive) review follows:

Halloween History
​

He caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of
Hinnom: also he observed times, and used enchantments, and used
witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought
much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger. 2 Chronicles 33:6
​

Our Pilgrim forefathers knew well of Halloween's occult roots. In fact they banned
celebrating Halloween in America. Halloween was not celebrated in this country until
1845. At that time multiplied thousands of Irish emigrants flooded into New York because
of the Irish Potato Famine of 1845-46. They brought with them an old Druid Holiday they
called Halloween. Gradually celebrating this day spread throughout the rest of the
country.

To understand Halloween's roots better we need to go back further into history and take
a look at the Druids and the Celtic people. The Druids were the pagan priests of the Celts.
They were idolaters, occult practitioners and witches of sorts. Lets begin with the
information found in the 11th edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica.

Halloween and its former attendant ceremonies long antedate Christianity.
The two chief characteristics of ancient Halloween were the lighting of
bonfires and the belief that of all nights in the year this is the one during
which ghosts and witches are most likely to wander abroad. Now on or
about the 1st of November the Druids held their great autumn festival and
lighted fires in honor of the Sun-god in thanksgiving of the harvest. Further,
it was a Druidic belief that on the eve of this festival Saman, lord of death,
called together the wicked souls that within the past twelve months had
been condemned to inhabit the bodies of animals. Thus it is clear that the
main celebration of Halloween was purely Druidical, and this is further
proved by the fact that in parts of Ireland the 31st of October was, and
even still is, known as Oidhche Shamhna, "Vigil of Saman." On the Druidic
ceremonies were grafted some of the characteristics ! of the Roman
festival in honor of Pamona held about the 1st of November
​

Depending on your source material, the Druid Lord of Death and evil
spirits was called Saman, Shamhan, Samana, Shamhain or Samhain. I have received
numerous letters and e-mail from witches telling me there was no such Druid god. Yet, in
the source material that I have used, (see the above quote), such as the historic 11th
edition of Encyclopedia Britannica, it identifies the Druid Lord of Death as Saman and his
holiday named after him as Oidhche Shamhna, translated "Vigil of Saman."

Suffice it to say, at this point that the pagan worship day Samhain evolved into Other
reliable sources call his "holiday" "The Vigil Samhain" (Shamhain is pronounced so-wein).
I ask you, are the protests of the occult community an effort to "white wash" the truth
about Saman and how they worshipped him in fiendish, bloody worship rituals? I believe
that is probable.Halloween. But what of their Lord of Death? You probably have seen a
modern day version of SAMAN without even knowing it. This pagan god was shown as a
ghostly, skeleton holding a sickle in his hand. He later came to be known as THE GRIM REAPER.

The Nimrod - Druid Connection
​

And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech,
neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD. Leviticus 18:21
​

Have you ever wondered where the heinous pagan
worship rituals of the Druids originated? I have. As it turns out it goes all the way back to
Nimrod, who built Babel or Babylon. He conceived a one world government model in
rebellion against Jehovah-God and went about to establish a one world government in
the land of Shinar (which is today known as Iraq) and institute a pagan worship system
that rejected the Lord God Jehovah. The primary false god worshipped was called Baal
(Syrian & Phoenician), Bel (Assyrian), Moloch or Molech (Ammonites), Ra or Re (Egyptian)
to name just a few. Here is why that is important. The American Book of Days says, "Many
of Halloween's customs are derived from the ancient Baal Festivals. Other customs
originate from the taking of omens from the struggles of victims in the fires of druidic
sacrifices."Alexander Hislop wrote, "The worship of Bel (Moloch) and Astarte was very
early introduced into Britain along with the Druids, the priests of the groves. From Bel, the
1st of May is still called Beltane in the Almanac; and we have customs still lingering at this
day among us, which prove how exactly the worship of Bel or Moloch had been observed"
The reference to "lingering customs" refers to Halloween.

Now, allow me to turn your attention back to Nimrod for a moment. It is important that
you know that Nimrod incorporated into his worship system the grisly practice of human
sacrifice and cannibalism. Hislop says, "the priests of Nimrod or Baal were necessarily
required to eat of the human sacrifices; and thus it has come to pass that Cahna-Bal
(cahna meaning priest & Bal referring to Baal), the Priest of Baal is the established word
(cannibal) in our own tongue for a devourer of human flesh." Heres why that is important.
"The god whom the Druids worshipped was Baal, as the blazing Baal-fires show
andchildren were offered in sacrifice to Baal." Thats what Baal (Moloch) worshippers did.
We know that because of what we read in the Bible in Jeremiah 19:5

They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for
burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither
came it into my mind.
​

There is absolutely no doubt that Samhain - Halloween, was a wicked pagan worship day.
It is little wonder that even today Halloweens focus is still on horror, mutilation, death,
evil and the occult seeing that it is rooted in Baal worship! But, I come in contact with
people regularly who protest, "That may have been true in the past, but that is not true
today."

Witches have never given up Halloween! Occultists of all stripes still lay claim to the day
and worship their pagan gods and goddesses on that day with demonic rituals.

Link -->> The History of Halloween

 

[Katy-follower]

Question...

Why legitimize something by calling a "Christian" activity an alternative? Wouldn't the non-truth be the alternative?

Why not just choose to celebrate or not; or celebrate the Reformation or All Saints Day as the standard which has been altered to Halloween?

A Christian activity should never be the alternative, IMHO. Any non-Christian activity is the alternative.

Well, I don't celebrate Halloween and God actually told us to "have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness" - so we are not to celebrate it at all.

God didn't intend us to celebrate any such things. He didn't even ask us to celebrate his birthday, as his actual birthday was not specifically confirmed in the bible. But - Jesus wasn't born in the winter as many think. He was born between March-Oct time according to scripture, because the shepherds would not have been in the fields in December; it was much too cold then. Spring to early fall was the best time for shepherds in the fields.

On Halloween, I know of families with children who do something in their church, like a Jesus movie or something, because they don't want their kids to miss out when all their friends at school are out following this Pagan tradition.

 

[Katy-follower]

AgeofKnowledge: That song was on Disney's Magical Racing Tour (PSX). LOL!

IMO, DON'T CELEBRATE IT. But we aren't running around dressed up like goblins and letting our children dress up like Harry Potter. (Well... most of us????)

Yups. And as much as people love Harry Potter - this movie itself even has an evil influence on lives, particularly children who are vulnerable and hooked into it.