And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God. ~ Revelation 15:2
Do you understand what the 'victory' actually is in this verse? It is "not accepting the mark, not worshipping the beast, not worshipping his image, etc." ( after having faced it - and, having been forced to make a decision - and, having made the right one ) -- the victory is in dying without having done any of these things (which Satan would like for you to do).
People will be martyred for not doing any of these things. The victory is in NOT "giving in" to the mark (specifically) -- "going all the way to death" without "giving in" to the mark. At the moment of death --- victory!!!
Death is a vital requirement for this 'victory' -- "by definition" -- it cannot be obtained any other way.
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Revelation 15:2And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
The key words here are
“Them that had gotten the victory”, and the time frame is “beast, his image, and his mark”.
Whether you died as martyrs a 100 years ago
Or whether you die of old age in the lord
Or whether you die in the tribulation.
Or whether you make it to the last day
The pay is all the same for them in the lord.
There is no special reward for dying in the tribulation
The sea of glass is for everyone at the end of the tribulation.
You say its Post trib and pre wrath and you are right.
But if you say Jesus comes in Rv19 as the rapture with sharp sword, and smite the nations, and shall rule them with a rod of iron, and THEN pours out his wrath there is something wrong,
because when the sixth angel poured out his vial/wrath, the wicked gather to make war, the kings of the earth and of the whole world, gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty, gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. But that happens after the post trib when Jesus comes with sharp sword and smites the nations.
So Rv19 is not the rapture, its Jesus returning with us to fight them that gather together to make war against him that sat on the horse.
if you think Rv19 is the rapture then the wicked know something we don’t “when he is coming” because they gather together to make war with him.
So we do go somewhere in the rapture
Revelation 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
Rv16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
16And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
Rv19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
15And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.