3 of the 7 Appointed Times of YHWH are yet unfulfilled

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I want to start a discussion on the 3 as of yet unfulfilled appointed times of YHWH described in Leviticus 23. These times are the day of clamor (typically called the day of Trumpets), the day of atonement, and tabernacles. These appointed times are typically called feasts or festivals, but that terminology hardly fits all cases. For example, the day of atonement was to be a day of solemn self-humiliation, an attitude hardly appropriate for a feast or festival.

I have heard it said by some here that all 7 of these appointed times have been fulfilled. To that I say, impossible.

I don't want to get into a lot of detail about these times at this point (even though they are an amazing thing to study vis-a-vis Christ), but I do want to get a discussion going about the times of their fulfillment by making these two points:


  • The appointed times were to occur at specific times in the year
These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons. Leviticus 23:4


  • The precedent set by scripture is that Christ's fulfillment of the first 4 of these times has occurred at exactly the time of year specified in Leviticus 23. It has been very precise.

There is no evidence in scripture that the remaining 3 appointed times have been fulfilled. So to state that they have been fulfilled is, IMO, purely speculation and wishful thinking.
 
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What are the 3 appointed times your talking about? Please elaborate
 

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What is the argument that the three have been fulfilled?
 
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What are the 3 appointed times your talking about? Please elaborate
Day of Clamor (Trumpets)
And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation. Ye shall do no servile work therein: but ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD. Leviticus 23:23-25

Day of Atonement
And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Also on the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of atonement: it shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD. And ye shall do no work in that same day: for it is a day of atonement, to make an atonement for you before the LORD your God. For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people. And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people. Ye shall do no manner of work: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings. It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath. Leviticus 23:26-32

Tabernacles
And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, The fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be the feast of tabernacles for seven days unto the LORD. On the first day shall be an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein. Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: on the eighth day shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: it is a solemn assembly; and ye shall do no servile work therein. Leviticus 23:33-36
 
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Also see Leviticus 16:2-34 for what actually happened on the day of atonement.
 
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Day of Atonement (holiest day of the year)

Only the high priest could enter the holiest place one day in the year. He was cleansed by a sin offering and a burnt offering.

Thus shall Aaron enter into the holy place; with a calf of the herd for a sin-offering, and having a ram for a whole-burnt-offering. Leviticus 16:3
 
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Day of Atonement (holiest day of the year)

Only day in the year that high priest wore his special white linen garments (that I am aware of).

He shall put on the holy linen coat, and he shall have the linen breeches upon his flesh, and shall be girded with a linen girdle, and with the linen mitre shall he be attired: these are holy garments; therefore shall he wash his flesh in water, and so put them on. Leviticus 16:4

 
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Day of Atonement (cleansing of Israel for the year)

Two offerings for the congregation of Israel: a sin offering and a scapegoat (literally, goat of banishment).

And he shall take of the congregation of the children of Israel two kids of the goats for a sin offering, and one ram for a burnt offering. And Aaron shall offer his bullock of the sin offering, which is for himself, and make an atonement for himself, and for his house. And he shall take the two goats, and present them before the LORD at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats; one lot for the LORD, and the other lot for the scapegoat. And Aaron shall bring the goat upon which the LORD'S lot fell, and offer him for a sin offering. But the goat, on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat, shall be presented alive before the LORD, to make an atonement with him, and to let him go for a scapegoat into the wilderness. Leviticus 16:5-10

Note that one goat is slain for sin (fulfilled in Christ); the other is released alive (banished) into the wilderness. This is a key point that this day has not been fulfilled. Yearly, the sins of Israel were placed on the banished goat, which was removed alive from the congregation. This symbolizes the removal of sin from GOD's people forever. Jesus is not the scapegoat as sin would have to remain with him forever. However, it is written that when he emerges from the holy place and returns to earth, it will be apart from the issue of his people's sins into their salvation.


So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time apart from sin unto salvation. Hebrews 9:28


There is only one place sin will remain forever - the lake of fire. It will remain forever before the throne of GOD as a witness of the consequences of sin - eternal separation from the glory and life of GOD.


And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD. And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh. Isaiah 66:23-24


And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. Luke 16:26

I think it is accurate to state that this day is being fulfilled at the present time, but it is not yet fully fulfilled. And this present time has existed for the past nearly 2000 years, and will continue until the lord returns and this day is fully fulfilled.
 

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I want to start a discussion on the 3 as of yet unfulfilled appointed times of YHWH described in Leviticus 23. These times are the day of clamor (typically called the day of Trumpets), the day of atonement, and tabernacles. These appointed times are typically called feasts or festivals, but that terminology hardly fits all cases. For example, the day of atonement was to be a day of solemn self-humiliation, an attitude hardly appropriate for a feast or festival.

I have heard it said by some here that all 7 of these appointed times have been fulfilled. To that I say, impossible.

I don't want to get into a lot of detail about these times at this point (even though they are an amazing thing to study vis-a-vis Christ), but I do want to get a discussion going about the times of their fulfillment by making these two points:


  • The appointed times were to occur at specific times in the year
These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons. Leviticus 23:4


  • The precedent set by scripture is that Christ's fulfillment of the first 4 of these times has occurred at exactly the time of year specified in Leviticus 23. It has been very precise.

There is no evidence in scripture that the remaining 3 appointed times have been fulfilled. So to state that they have been fulfilled is, IMO, purely speculation and wishful thinking.
I see this much differently...

The Passover is fulfilled.

The Days of Unleavened bread are ongoing...

1Co 5:6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Mat 16:11 How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees?
Mat 16:12 Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

The Wave Sheaf is fulfilled...

Joh 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Adn later that morning He did ascend.

Pentecost is partially fulfilled, the giving of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost, 31AD but the early harvest at the return of Christ has not occurred.

Trumpets is the day of the return of Christ.

Atonement is the making at one with God of the world and also the incarceration of Satan...

Lev 16:7 And he shall take the two goats, and present them before the LORD at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
Lev 16:8 And Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats; one lot for the LORD, and the other lot for the scapegoat.
Lev 16:9 And Aaron shall bring the goat upon which the LORD'S lot fell, and offer him for a sin offering.

Lev 16:15 Then shall he kill the goat of the sin offering, that is for the people, and bring his blood within the vail, and do with that blood as he did with the blood of the bullock, and sprinkle it upon the mercy seat, and before the mercy seat:

The goat of the sin offering was the shadow of Jesus Christ.

Lev 16:21 And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat, and shall send him away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness:
Lev 16:22 And the goat shall bear upon him all their iniquities unto a land not inhabited: and he shall let go the goat in the wilderness.

The live goat is the shadow of Satan confined...

Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Feast of Tabernacles shadows the Millenial reign of Christ

The Last Great Day sahdows the Great White Throne Judgment.
 

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Day of Atonement (holiest day of the year)

Only the high priest could enter the holiest place one day in the year. He was cleansed by a sin offering and a burnt offering.

Thus shall Aaron enter into the holy place; with a calf of the herd for a sin-offering, and having a ram for a whole-burnt-offering. Leviticus 16:3
:)

if this isn't fulfilled, your sins are not forgiven:) (atoned for)
 

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Feast of Tabernacles:

The Feast of Tabernacles was also known as the Feast of Ingathering because it occurs at the time of the major harvest of crops - the spring harvest of the crops was smaller than the autumn harvest.

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Number 29
12“On the fifteenth day of the seventh month you shall have a holy convocation. You shall not do any ordinary work, and you shall keep a feast to the LORD seven days. 13And you shall offer a burnt offering, a food offering, with a pleasing aroma to the LORD, thirteen bulls from the herd, two rams, fourteen male lambs a year old; they shall be without blemish; 14and their grain offering of fine flour mixed with oil, three tenths of an ephah for each of the thirteen bulls, two tenths for each of the two rams, 15and a tenth for each of the fourteen lambs; 16also one male goat for a sin offering, besides the regular burnt offering, its grain offering and its drink offering.

17“On the second day twelve bulls from the herd, two rams, fourteen male lambs a year old without blemish, 18with the grain offering and the drink offerings for the bulls, for the rams, and for the lambs, in the prescribed quantities; 19also one male goat for a sin offering, besides the regular burnt offering and its grain offering, and their drink offerings.

20“On the third day eleven bulls, two rams, fourteen male lambs a year old without blemish, 21with the grain offering and the drink offerings for the bulls, for the rams, and for the lambs, in the prescribed quantities; 22also one male goat for a sin offering, besides the regular burnt offering and its grain offering and its drink offering.

23“On the fourth day ten bulls, two rams, fourteen male lambs a year old without blemish, 24with the grain offering and the drink offerings for the bulls, for the rams, and for the lambs, in the prescribed quantities; 25also one male goat for a sin offering, besides the regular burnt offering, its grain offering and its drink offering.

26“On the fifth day nine bulls, two rams, fourteen male lambs a year old without blemish, 27with the grain offering and the drink offerings for the bulls, for the rams, and for the lambs, in the prescribed quantities; 28also one male goat for a sin offering; besides the regular burnt offering and its grain offering and its drink offering.

29“On the sixth day eight bulls, two rams, fourteen male lambs a year old without blemish, 30with the grain offering and the drink offerings for the bulls, for the rams, and for the lambs, in the prescribed quantities; 31also one male goat for a sin offering; besides the regular burnt offering, its grain offering, and its drink offerings.

32“On the seventh day seven bulls, two rams, fourteen male lambs a year old without blemish, 33with the grain offering and the drink offerings for the bulls, for the rams, and for the lambs, in the prescribed quantities; 34also one male goat for a sin offering; besides the regular burnt offering, its grain offering, and its drink offering.

35“On the eighth day you shall have a solemn assembly. You shall not do any ordinary work, 36but you shall offer a burnt offering, a food offering, with a pleasing aroma to the LORD: one bull, one ram, seven male lambs a year old without blemish, 37and the grain offering and the drink offerings for the bull, for the ram, and for the lambs, in the prescribed quantities; 38also one male goat for a sin offering; besides the regular burnt offering and its grain offering and its drink offering.

39“These you shall offer to the LORD at your appointed feasts, in addition to your vow offerings and your freewill offerings, for your burnt offerings, and for your grain offerings, and for your drink offerings, and for your peace offerings.”

40b So Moses told the people of Israel everything just as the LORD had commanded Moses.

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did Jesus fulfill all of those sacrifical types?
i hope so:)

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John 4
31Meanwhile the disciples were urging him, saying, “Rabbi, eat.” 32But he said to them, “I have food to eat that you do not know about.” 33So the disciples said to one another, “Has anyone brought him something to eat?” 34Jesus said to them, “My food is to do the will of him who sent me and to accomplish his work. 35Do you not say, ‘There are yet four months, then comes the harvest’? Look, I tell you, lift up your eyes, and see that the fields are white for harvest. 36Already the one who reaps is receiving wages and gathering fruit for eternal life, so that sower and reaper may rejoice together. 37For here the saying holds true, ‘One sows and another reaps.’ 38I sent you to reap that for which you did not labor. Others have labored, and you have entered into their labor.”

okay....even while He was standing there he said the later harvest was ready:)
others had sown, the harvest was ready.

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John 7
Jesus at the Feast of Booths

1After this Jesus went about in Galilee. He would not go about in Judea, because the Jewsa were seeking to kill him. 2Now the Jews’ Feast of Booths was at hand. 3So his brothersb said to him, “Leave here and go to Judea, that your disciples also may see the works you are doing. 4For no one works in secret if he seeks to be known openly. If you do these things, show yourself to the world.” 5For not even his brothers believed in him. 6Jesus said to them, “My time has not yet come, but your time is always here. 7The world cannot hate you, but it hates me because I testify about it that its works are evil. 8You go up to the feast. I am not going up to this feast, for my time has not yet fully come.” 9After saying this, he remained in Galilee.

10But after his brothers had gone up to the feast, then he also went up, not publicly but in private. 11The Jews were looking for him at the feast, and saying, “Where is he?” 12And there was much muttering about him among the people. While some said, “He is a good man,” others said, “No, he is leading the people astray.” 13Yet for fear of the Jews no one spoke openly of him.


John 7
Rivers of Living Water

37On the last day of the feast, the great day, Jesus stood up and cried out, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to me and drink. 38Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, ‘Out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.’” 39Now this he said about the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were to receive, for as yet the Spirit had not been given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.

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Luke 9
Jesus Sends Out the Twelve Apostles

1And he called the twelve together and gave them power and authority over all demons and to cure diseases, 2and he sent them out to proclaim the kingdom of God and to heal. 3And he said to them, “Take nothing for your journey, no staff, nor bag, nor bread, nor money; and do not have two tunics.a 4And whatever house you enter, stay there, and from there depart. 5And wherever they do not receive you, when you leave that town shake off the dust from your feet as a testimony against them.” 6And they departed and went through the villages, preaching the gospel and healing everywhere.



Luke 9
The Transfiguration

28Now about eight days after these sayings he took with him Peter and John and James and went up on the mountain to pray. 29And as he was praying, the appearance of his face was altered, and his clothing became dazzling white. 30And behold, two men were talking with him, Moses and Elijah, 31who appeared in glory and spoke of his departure,b which he was about to accomplish at Jerusalem. 32Now Peter and those who were with him were heavy with sleep, but when they became fully awake they saw his glory and the two men who stood with him. 33And as the men were parting from him, Peter said to Jesus, “Master, it is good that we are here. Let us make three tents, one for you and one for Moses and one for Elijah”—not knowing what he said. 34As he was saying these things, a cloud came and overshadowed them, and they were afraid as they entered the cloud. 35And a voice came out of the cloud, saying, “This is my Son, my Chosen One;c listen to him!” 36And when the voice had spoken, Jesus was found alone. And they kept silent and told no one in those days anything of what they had seen.

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And behold, two men were talking with him, Moses and Elijah, who appeared in glory and spoke of his departure, which he was about to accomplish at Jerusalem.

Peter wanted to prepare booths....what did God the Father say? - “This is my Son, my Chosen One; listen to him!

seems like Tabernacles is fulfilled (and being fulfilled) beginning with Jesus Himself coming in the flesh and tabernacling with men, then the pouring out of the Spirit in Jerusalem - indwelling men, beginning the ingathering/harvest.

it started with 3000 souls the day of Peter's sermon:)

the Gospel - to the Jew first, then the gentile

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John 1:14
And the Word became flesh, and did tabernacle among us, and we beheld his glory, glory as of an only begotten of a father, full of grace and truth.
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Colossians 1
Thanksgiving and Prayer

3We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you, 4since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and of the love that you have for all the saints, 5because of the hope laid up for you in heaven. Of this you have heard before in the word of the truth, the gospel, 6which has come to you, as indeed in the whole world it is bearing fruit and growing—as it also does among you, since the day you heard it and understood the grace of God in truth, 7just as you learned it from Epaphras our beloved fellow servant.b He is a faithful minister of Christ on yourc behalf 8and has made known to us your love in the Spirit.

Paul’s Ministry to the Church
24Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I am filling up what is lacking in Christ’s afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church, 25of which I became a minister according to the stewardship from God that was given to me for you, to make the word of God fully known, 26the mystery hidden for ages and generations but now revealed to his saints. 27To them God chose to make known how great among the Gentiles are the riches of the glory of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.

Acts 15
James’s Judgment

13After they had stopped speaking, James answered, saying, “Brethren, listen to me. 14“Simeon has related how God first concerned Himself about taking from among the Gentiles a people for His name. 15“With this the words of the Prophets agree, just as it is written,

16‘AFTER THESE THINGS I will return,
AND I WILL REBUILD THE TABERNACLE OF DAVID WHICH HAS FALLEN,
AND I WILL REBUILD ITS RUINS,
AND I WILL RESTORE IT,

17SO THAT THE REST OF MANKIND MAY SEEK THE LORD,
AND ALL THE GENTILES WHO ARE CALLED BY MY NAME,’

18SAYS THE LORD, WHO MAKES THESE THINGS KNOWN FROM LONG AGO.
says the Lord, who makes these things 18known from of old.’


and so on....:)
more later maybe
 
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How could the atonement not have come to pass? Jesus is our atonement, our high priest, it is finished, He paid the price, one sacrifice for all time, which is why we no longer sacrifice animals to cleanse us of our sins
 
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Day of atonement fullfilled on the cross. That is WHY the curtain between the inner and outer sanctums were torn in two. As Zone said, if this is not fulfilled. Christ's death is useless. we are still in our sin.

Tabernacle fulfilled. Sacrifice completed by Christ on the cross. This we can enter rest. (no work)

Same with clamor.. All the sacrifices represented Jesus!
 
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How could the atonement not have come to pass? Jesus is our atonement, our high priest, it is finished, He paid the price, one sacrifice for all time, which is why we no longer sacrifice animals to cleanse us of our sins
There are two sin sacrifices on that day: one for the high priest, one for the congregation. The sin offering for the high priest has been made.

However, sin offering cannot be made for a person who does not exist and therefore hasn't sinned. Therefore, all must come into the body of Christ before the atonement for all of the congregation of Israel can be completed. Once the mystery of GOD (the body of Christ) is completed at the 7th trumpet, then that atonement will have been made for the entire body.

But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. Revelation 10:7
 
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did Jesus fulfill all of those sacrifical types?
i hope so:)
Did? No. Does, yes, in the appointed times...

okay....even while He was standing there he said the later harvest was ready:)
others had sown, the harvest was ready.
The harvest has been ongoing for nearly 2000 years. It is not, by any means, finished yet...

Peter wanted to prepare booths....what did God the Father say? - “This is my Son, my Chosen One; listen to him!
seems like Tabernacles is fulfilled (and being fulfilled) beginning with Jesus Himself coming in the flesh and tabernacling with men, then the pouring out of the Spirit in Jerusalem - indwelling men, beginning the ingathering/harvest.
it started with 3000 souls the day of Peter's sermon:)
But Jesus was cut off shortly thereafter, so tabernacles could not be yet. The 3000 souls at Pentecost were the firstfruits of the spring wheat harvest, not those of the final ingathering at year's end.

16‘AFTER THESE THINGS I will return,
AND I WILL REBUILD THE TABERNACLE OF DAVID WHICH HAS FALLEN,
AND I WILL REBUILD ITS RUINS,
AND I WILL RESTORE IT,

17SO THAT THE REST OF MANKIND MAY SEEK THE LORD,
AND ALL THE GENTILES WHO ARE CALLED BY MY NAME,’

18SAYS THE LORD, WHO MAKES THESE THINGS KNOWN FROM LONG AGO.
says the Lord, who makes these things 18known from of old.’
The tabernacle of David has nothing directly to do with tabernacles.

and so on....:)
more later maybe
Please do try to be a little more specific as to what you believe; and it would be helpful to break things up into smaller posts. thx
 
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Day of atonement fullfilled on the cross. That is WHY the curtain between the inner and outer sanctums were torn in two. As Zone said, if this is not fulfilled. Christ's death is useless. we are still in our sin.
This is impossible for (at least) two reasons.

1) Where is sin now? In our midst. The day of atonement cannot be fulfilled until sin is removed permanently from the congregation of GOD.

2) Atonement cannot be made for a person who either does not exist, or is not a member of the congregation. Final fulfillment must wait until the last person is baptized into the body of Christ.


Tabernacle fulfilled. Sacrifice completed by Christ on the cross. This we can enter rest. (no work)
Yet we are still laboring and in peril in this world. Doesn't sound like a completed rest to me.


Same with clamor.. All the sacrifices represented Jesus!
The day of clamor (trumpets) will be a day of tumultuous noise announcing the lord's return and the world's destruction via worldwide nuclear holocaust (talk about a loud day!).

And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Matthew 24:31

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 2 Peter 3:10

 

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How could the atonement not have come to pass? Jesus is our atonement, our high priest, it is finished, He paid the price, one sacrifice for all time, which is why we no longer sacrifice animals to cleanse us of our sins
The entire world is not AT ONE with God, yet, that comes during the Millenium when this occurs...

Isa 2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
Isa 2:3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
Isa 2:4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Mic 4:1 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.
Mic 4:2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
Mic 4:3 And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
Mic 4:4 But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the LORD of hosts hath spoken it.

Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Isa 11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

Hab 2:14 For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.
 
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I see this much differently...


  1. The Passover is fulfilled.
  2. The Days of Unleavened bread are ongoing...
  3. The Wave Sheaf is fulfilled...
  4. Pentecost is partially fulfilled, the giving of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost, 31AD but the early harvest at the return of Christ has not occurred.
  5. Trumpets is the day of the return of Christ.
  6. Atonement is the making at one with God of the world and also the incarceration of Satan...
  7. The goat of the sin offering was the shadow of Jesus Christ.
  8. The live goat is the shadow of Satan confined...
  9. Feast of Tabernacles shadows the Millenial reign of Christ
  10. The Last Great Day sahdows the Great White Throne Judgment.
I don't think we are that far apart in our understanding...
  1. I agree
  2. I disagree; fulfilled IMO, albeit its truths abide continually in our walk as does that of Christ our Passover.
  3. I agree
  4. Possibly
  5. I agree
  6. I agree
  7. I agree
  8. I agree (ultimately), but see the beast and false prophet as the forerunners for this
  9. I tend to think this is true, but also see the beginning of this being the seven day appointed time after Christ returns
  10. Not sure what you mean by this