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So one Babylonian artifact in a Persian language refers to the Jews as Saxons and this is why the lost tribes of the Assyrian captivity can be traced to European Saxons who went to America? Very, very weak evidence. Where's the linguistic evidence? Would these Saxons have spoke Hebrew, or a form of Aramaic? How is that related to the Germanic languages? This is the same type of evidence the Mormons use in believing they are ancient Jews and why Jesus visited the land of America. I'm sorry, although I believe America was founded on many Christian principles, it does not hold some long lost claim to the lost tribes of Israel.
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If that is what you got from the study and the facts presented; my advice would be; just to read the scriptures again, and as many times as you need to; before you catch up to what the video is teaching. Maybe stop and rewind etc...
And there is actually even more historic evidence, which he asked you to look into yourself; and I second that.
And there is actually even more historic evidence, which he asked you to look into yourself; and I second that.
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Roots of the Worldwide Church of God
His wife Loma was influenced by Ora Runcorn of the Church of God 7th Day (headquartered in Stanberry, MO) in 1926. Armstrong was ordained to the ministry of this church in 1932, making the split with Andrew N. Dugger in 1933 to the Salem, WV Church of God 7th Day, where he became one of the "Seventy Elders." He had his ministerial license revoked in 1937 after trying to introduce his theory of British-Israelism and holy days. Founded the Radio Church of God in 1934 (name was changed to Worldwide Church of God in 1968*). He preached a version of Millerism and plagiarized the writings of Seventh-day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormonism and Pentecostals (the last three groups have occult roots). (For more on the history of Herbert Armstrong see Worldwide Church of God and Herbert Armstrong.)
NOTE: Ask yourself, would God trace His church through false prophets? See ESN's critical review of Chapter 6 of Mystery of the Ages: "Seven Eras of the Church."
UPDATE: In 1995 Joseph W. Tkach instigated new doctrinal changes for the WCG. After he died in 1995, his son Joseph Tkach became the new Pastor General and President. In April 2009 Worldwide Church of God changed their name in the United States to Grace Communion International.
Roots of the Worldwide Church of God
The Anglo‐Israelism theory has been refuted, and virtually no reputable scholar or historian today would promote it. The Assyrian and Babylonian captivities in 722 B.C. and 586 B.C. forever ended the schism between Judah and Israel. From about that time on, the terms “Jew” and Israelite” were used interchangeably. Further, there is no sufficient evidence that the Scythians (the supposed missing link between Israel and Great Britain) were ever connected with the ten tribes of Israel. By comparing the etymologies of English words from the most respected English dictionary (Oxford English Dictionary), there is simply no sufficient evidence to support any connection between the Anglo‐Saxon and Hebrew tongues.
The Old Testament also uses the children of Judah and the ten tribes of Israel together after the Jews returned from the Babylonian captivity in 536 B.C. (Ezra 2:70; 6:17; 7:6‐15; Neh. 7:73; 12:44‐47; Zech. 1:19; 8:13; 10:6; cf. 2 Chron. 11:3‐17; 15:9). Many of these texts are the fulfillment of Ezekiel 37:15‐25 (cf. Jer. 31:27; 50:40).
In the New Testament the Jews and the ten tribes of Israel are mentioned many times without any distinction made between them (e.g., Matt. 10:5, 6; 15:24; Luke 2:36; 22:30; Acts 2:14, 22, 23, 36; James 1:1; Rev. 7:4‐8). Both Jesus and Paul were Jews (Matt. 27:11 cf. Rom. 9:1‐4; Acts 21:39 cf. Rom 11:1‐2). Since all New Testament Christians are God’s chosen people, racial distinctions no longer matter (John 1:12‐13; Acts 10:34; 17:26 cf. Gen 3:20; Rom. 8:14; 1 Pet. 2:9; Col. 3:11; Gal. 3:28; Rev. 5:9, 10). All humanity has sinned (Rom. 3:23; 5:12‐20); thus, as William H. Baker states, “The so‐called races must be equal, because sin is what produces undesirable traits, not race” (Moody Monthly, “Equal Before God,” p.19, 1‐87).
Arnold Murray and the Shepherd’s Chapel
By: B.J. Oropreza
Arnold Murray and the Shepherd’s Chapel - Christian Research Institute
His wife Loma was influenced by Ora Runcorn of the Church of God 7th Day (headquartered in Stanberry, MO) in 1926. Armstrong was ordained to the ministry of this church in 1932, making the split with Andrew N. Dugger in 1933 to the Salem, WV Church of God 7th Day, where he became one of the "Seventy Elders." He had his ministerial license revoked in 1937 after trying to introduce his theory of British-Israelism and holy days. Founded the Radio Church of God in 1934 (name was changed to Worldwide Church of God in 1968*). He preached a version of Millerism and plagiarized the writings of Seventh-day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormonism and Pentecostals (the last three groups have occult roots). (For more on the history of Herbert Armstrong see Worldwide Church of God and Herbert Armstrong.)
NOTE: Ask yourself, would God trace His church through false prophets? See ESN's critical review of Chapter 6 of Mystery of the Ages: "Seven Eras of the Church."
UPDATE: In 1995 Joseph W. Tkach instigated new doctrinal changes for the WCG. After he died in 1995, his son Joseph Tkach became the new Pastor General and President. In April 2009 Worldwide Church of God changed their name in the United States to Grace Communion International.
Roots of the Worldwide Church of God
The Anglo‐Israelism theory has been refuted, and virtually no reputable scholar or historian today would promote it. The Assyrian and Babylonian captivities in 722 B.C. and 586 B.C. forever ended the schism between Judah and Israel. From about that time on, the terms “Jew” and Israelite” were used interchangeably. Further, there is no sufficient evidence that the Scythians (the supposed missing link between Israel and Great Britain) were ever connected with the ten tribes of Israel. By comparing the etymologies of English words from the most respected English dictionary (Oxford English Dictionary), there is simply no sufficient evidence to support any connection between the Anglo‐Saxon and Hebrew tongues.
The Old Testament also uses the children of Judah and the ten tribes of Israel together after the Jews returned from the Babylonian captivity in 536 B.C. (Ezra 2:70; 6:17; 7:6‐15; Neh. 7:73; 12:44‐47; Zech. 1:19; 8:13; 10:6; cf. 2 Chron. 11:3‐17; 15:9). Many of these texts are the fulfillment of Ezekiel 37:15‐25 (cf. Jer. 31:27; 50:40).
In the New Testament the Jews and the ten tribes of Israel are mentioned many times without any distinction made between them (e.g., Matt. 10:5, 6; 15:24; Luke 2:36; 22:30; Acts 2:14, 22, 23, 36; James 1:1; Rev. 7:4‐8). Both Jesus and Paul were Jews (Matt. 27:11 cf. Rom. 9:1‐4; Acts 21:39 cf. Rom 11:1‐2). Since all New Testament Christians are God’s chosen people, racial distinctions no longer matter (John 1:12‐13; Acts 10:34; 17:26 cf. Gen 3:20; Rom. 8:14; 1 Pet. 2:9; Col. 3:11; Gal. 3:28; Rev. 5:9, 10). All humanity has sinned (Rom. 3:23; 5:12‐20); thus, as William H. Baker states, “The so‐called races must be equal, because sin is what produces undesirable traits, not race” (Moody Monthly, “Equal Before God,” p.19, 1‐87).
Arnold Murray and the Shepherd’s Chapel
By: B.J. Oropreza
Arnold Murray and the Shepherd’s Chapel - Christian Research Institute
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Zone what in the world is all that non sense ?
Just stick to scriptures and address all the scripture there and history presented in this video study .
Just because some one dose not agree with your world view and view of scripture ; dose not mean they are wrong. And everything you posted has nothing to do with what is being taught here or this person.
And to note Zone, your wrong on your understanding of those scripture there or the people/web sites, you quote from. We all have to study on our own, and this video can help you catch up to the class. Proverbs 6:16-19
Just stick to scriptures and address all the scripture there and history presented in this video study .
Just because some one dose not agree with your world view and view of scripture ; dose not mean they are wrong. And everything you posted has nothing to do with what is being taught here or this person.
And to note Zone, your wrong on your understanding of those scripture there or the people/web sites, you quote from. We all have to study on our own, and this video can help you catch up to the class. Proverbs 6:16-19
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Again, scripture is given in facts in this video ( add this man to the list of Christians, you don't like Zone ) .
Historic facts are presented. If you dispute that, then your entitled to your thoughts, but they are just that, your thoughts; not based in reality and in light of facts.
Try to read Proverbs 6:16-19, about sowing discord among brothers ...
On a separate note and your obsession; Arnold Murray is a excellent Bible teacher. He dose not go along with the crowd ; while others are teaching rapture and speaking in babble tongues and leaving out large portions of the Bible; Murray sticks to the scriptures, regardless if that offends people who have never studied them their selves.
The real danger is not listening to every word of God as Christ instructed us to. If that offends anyone, then your too good for God and Christ.
Historic facts are presented. If you dispute that, then your entitled to your thoughts, but they are just that, your thoughts; not based in reality and in light of facts.
Try to read Proverbs 6:16-19, about sowing discord among brothers ...
On a separate note and your obsession; Arnold Murray is a excellent Bible teacher. He dose not go along with the crowd ; while others are teaching rapture and speaking in babble tongues and leaving out large portions of the Bible; Murray sticks to the scriptures, regardless if that offends people who have never studied them their selves.
The real danger is not listening to every word of God as Christ instructed us to. If that offends anyone, then your too good for God and Christ.
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Zone, it's nice to agree with you, I don't always get to say that. I'm sure we agree a lot more than we disagree, we just have eschatological differences.
It's interesting that some in Jesus' time know what tribe they were from. Anna the prophetess who saw baby Jesus from the tribe of Asher--wasn't that a lost tribe?
Many cults have it in common that they claim Jewish ancestry--this is not an anomaly. Nice synopsis zone.
It's interesting that some in Jesus' time know what tribe they were from. Anna the prophetess who saw baby Jesus from the tribe of Asher--wasn't that a lost tribe?
Many cults have it in common that they claim Jewish ancestry--this is not an anomaly. Nice synopsis zone.
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If its facts, then yes, that makes it true. grief. Facts are what is presented with documentation .
I know the world had already convinced people that lies are facts, and facts are lies.. Otherwise the facts, presented would have garnered a positive response. But then again, this world was made for fruit cakes..
There is very little to be happy about with people, when I see people willingly request to be ignorant of truth, even when its right in front of their face.( 2 Thess 2: 10-12 )
I know the world had already convinced people that lies are facts, and facts are lies.. Otherwise the facts, presented would have garnered a positive response. But then again, this world was made for fruit cakes..
There is very little to be happy about with people, when I see people willingly request to be ignorant of truth, even when its right in front of their face.( 2 Thess 2: 10-12 )
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This is not called British " Israelism"; though they are decedent also from the tribes as history documents. Thus ts just called studying God's words, and understanding those prophecies and history .
Like is presented, its historic documented, Biblical facts. Just because its not popular, does not make it wrong. The facts are there. like it or lump it. To say there is no truth in what is presented in the video that documents what is stated, is like kinda really ignorant in my opinion.
It reminds me of a kid with his fingers in his ears, and his eyes shut; crying because they dont get their way; despite the facts. That is what I would liken these responses to.
Like is presented, its historic documented, Biblical facts. Just because its not popular, does not make it wrong. The facts are there. like it or lump it. To say there is no truth in what is presented in the video that documents what is stated, is like kinda really ignorant in my opinion.
It reminds me of a kid with his fingers in his ears, and his eyes shut; crying because they dont get their way; despite the facts. That is what I would liken these responses to.
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What is rejected is the very use of the Bible itself in all this. No verse that is given gives a prophetic view of the lost tribes. From Gen. 49 to Malachi the use of these Bible verses doesn't say that the lost tribes have become Saxons and part of the USA. They don't.
The problem is not that we're denying the evidence, the problem is there is no evidence. State your case for a verse that we're misinterpreting. Present the verse, it will speak for itself, there is no verse. You're asking people to watch a video and then complaining that people aren't looking at evidence. Present it! There was no biblical evidence given that had the slightest inkling about the lost tribes.
The problem is not that we're denying the evidence, the problem is there is no evidence. State your case for a verse that we're misinterpreting. Present the verse, it will speak for itself, there is no verse. You're asking people to watch a video and then complaining that people aren't looking at evidence. Present it! There was no biblical evidence given that had the slightest inkling about the lost tribes.
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The evidence is there. it was documented clearly enough for most people I have spoken to. .
If its written, it must be documented from the Bible. To say there is no verses about the prophecies given about the Tribes of Israel is like out right ignoring, all the scriptures given about them in the Bible. The teacher did present those scriptures. Im not even sure if you payed any mind to them....
But your entitled to your opinion. I just can't agree with it.
If its written, it must be documented from the Bible. To say there is no verses about the prophecies given about the Tribes of Israel is like out right ignoring, all the scriptures given about them in the Bible. The teacher did present those scriptures. Im not even sure if you payed any mind to them....
But your entitled to your opinion. I just can't agree with it.
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Re: History of the lost Tribes of Isreal ( Facts ) - NO, FICTION
British Israelism, Anglo Israelism . . . pretty much the same stuff. Some of the more radical elements in our society have latched onto a version of it that morphed into the Christian Identity Movement
The Hebrew Roots Movement is preaching the same stuff with an Hebraic twist.
Jim Staley teaches his version in 'Identity Crisis', a rather widely shared video and one that is a gateway for some folks into the Hebrew Roots Movement.
The fact is that there are no 'Lost Tribes' of Israel. It's a made up doctrine based on MUCH twisting of Scripture resulting in at best an elitist and at worst a racist theology.
I've written a thorough article on the Hebrew Roots side of the Lost Tribes doctrine here:
Gateways into the Hebrew Roots Movement – An Examination of ‘Identity Crisis’ and Related Teachings of Jim Staley
An excerpt:
The Totten Reference:
Staley also makes mention of “Prof. C.A.L. Totten (1851-1908) of Yale University” citing the quote as “One of the most amazing quotes that you have ever seen and that I have ever seen” (again with the hyperbole). Totten was a proponent of British Israelism, which over time has morphed into beliefs ranging from the Two House/Ephraimite theology (basically British Israelism with a Hebrew Roots twist and is what Staley is teaching here), to the distinctly more racist Christian Identity Movement.
Both ends of the spectrum like to quote Totten:
So in reality, Totten was not at Yale as a theologian, but a giver of 24 lectures over 4 years at Yale regarding military science.
Totten has no designation after his name indicating that he was ever a true professor at all, let alone a designation that gives him credibility as a theologian.
Billing him as a ‘Yale Professor’ gives Totten and his views acedemic weight and authority that he does not in reality have. Not to diminish the man and his accomplishments, but C.A.L. Totten was neither a theologian nor a professor.
Yet the theological quote from Totten, whose modern-day designation would have been the equivalent of a Yale R.O.T.C. instructor, is “One of the most amazing quotes that you have ever seen and that I have ever seen” according to Staley.
Here is the quote as seen in the ‘Identity Crisis’ video:
-JGIG
British Israelism, Anglo Israelism . . . pretty much the same stuff. Some of the more radical elements in our society have latched onto a version of it that morphed into the Christian Identity Movement
The Hebrew Roots Movement is preaching the same stuff with an Hebraic twist.
Jim Staley teaches his version in 'Identity Crisis', a rather widely shared video and one that is a gateway for some folks into the Hebrew Roots Movement.
The fact is that there are no 'Lost Tribes' of Israel. It's a made up doctrine based on MUCH twisting of Scripture resulting in at best an elitist and at worst a racist theology.
I've written a thorough article on the Hebrew Roots side of the Lost Tribes doctrine here:
Gateways into the Hebrew Roots Movement – An Examination of ‘Identity Crisis’ and Related Teachings of Jim Staley
An excerpt:
The Totten Reference:
Staley also makes mention of “Prof. C.A.L. Totten (1851-1908) of Yale University” citing the quote as “One of the most amazing quotes that you have ever seen and that I have ever seen” (again with the hyperbole). Totten was a proponent of British Israelism, which over time has morphed into beliefs ranging from the Two House/Ephraimite theology (basically British Israelism with a Hebrew Roots twist and is what Staley is teaching here), to the distinctly more racist Christian Identity Movement.
Both ends of the spectrum like to quote Totten:
“His name still surfaces from time to time in Christian Identity literature . . . usually as ‘Prof. Totten of Yale’. While Identity writers disdain intellectuals and academics [note that Staley does this, as well], they seem pathetically grateful for any instance in which the halo of academic prestige shines on their ideas. In Totten’s case, however, the tie to Yale was tenuous indeed.
“In 1868, the Sheffield Scientific School at Yale was designated Connecticut’s land-grant college. While that carried financial benefits for the institution, it also obligated Sheffield to provide military instruction for its students. Yale was able to secure a waiver of the drill requirements and was obliged only to provide senior students with a mandatory course of lectures in ’military science’. These proved unproductive, and in 1877, Sheffield adopted a slightly different plan in cooperation with the United States Engineering School, whose officers were to provide six lectures each year on strategy, ordnance, fortification, and similar topics. One of the early officers detailed to this position of professor of military science and tactics was a lieutenant in the artillery named Charles Totten, who held the post from 1889 until 1892.
“Totten’s course appears to have been more successful than earlier military training programs at Yale, but his affiliation with the university was not substantially different from that of Reserve Officer’s Training Corps later on.”
“In 1868, the Sheffield Scientific School at Yale was designated Connecticut’s land-grant college. While that carried financial benefits for the institution, it also obligated Sheffield to provide military instruction for its students. Yale was able to secure a waiver of the drill requirements and was obliged only to provide senior students with a mandatory course of lectures in ’military science’. These proved unproductive, and in 1877, Sheffield adopted a slightly different plan in cooperation with the United States Engineering School, whose officers were to provide six lectures each year on strategy, ordnance, fortification, and similar topics. One of the early officers detailed to this position of professor of military science and tactics was a lieutenant in the artillery named Charles Totten, who held the post from 1889 until 1892.
“Totten’s course appears to have been more successful than earlier military training programs at Yale, but his affiliation with the university was not substantially different from that of Reserve Officer’s Training Corps later on.”
So in reality, Totten was not at Yale as a theologian, but a giver of 24 lectures over 4 years at Yale regarding military science.
Totten has no designation after his name indicating that he was ever a true professor at all, let alone a designation that gives him credibility as a theologian.
Billing him as a ‘Yale Professor’ gives Totten and his views acedemic weight and authority that he does not in reality have. Not to diminish the man and his accomplishments, but C.A.L. Totten was neither a theologian nor a professor.
Yet the theological quote from Totten, whose modern-day designation would have been the equivalent of a Yale R.O.T.C. instructor, is “One of the most amazing quotes that you have ever seen and that I have ever seen” according to Staley.
Here is the quote as seen in the ‘Identity Crisis’ video:
“I can never be too thankful to the Almighty that in my youth he used the late Professor Wilson to show me the difference between the two houses. The very understanding of this difference is the KEY by which almost the entire Bible becomes intelligible, and I cannot state too strongly that the man who has not yet seen that (the house of) Israel of the Scripture is totally distinct from the Jewish people, is yet in the very infancy, the mere alphabet of Biblical study, and that to this day the meaning of seven-eighths of the Bible is shut to his understanding.”—Professor C.A.L. Totten (1851-1908) of Yale University
And I hate to beat a dead horse, but John Wilson was not a professor either.
So we have Jim Staley quoting a ‘professor’ (Totten) who was not a professor who referred to another professor (Wilson) who was also not a professor. Jim Staley is just preaching an updated version of British Israelism with a full Hebraic twist and a recalibrated definition of Gentile, referring to professors who really aren’t professors to give his claims credibility.
So we have Jim Staley quoting a ‘professor’ (Totten) who was not a professor who referred to another professor (Wilson) who was also not a professor. Jim Staley is just preaching an updated version of British Israelism with a full Hebraic twist and a recalibrated definition of Gentile, referring to professors who really aren’t professors to give his claims credibility.
-JGIG
Re: History of the lost Tribes of Isreal ( Facts ) - NO, FICTION
Another good refutation of the Two House/Lost Tribes bit can be found here:
-JGIG
Another good refutation of the Two House/Lost Tribes bit can be found here:
- Are Gentile Christians Part of the Lost Northern Tribes of Israel? – Free Audio Download. Given from a Lutheran perspective. The value of the presentation outweighs any disagreements I have with the denominational views present therein. Also refer to Hebrew Roots Movement – Believers are Grafted Into and Become Israel? Um . . . No. in conjunction with this teaching.
-JGIG
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Guess what the lost tribes are, are ready, wait for it, its about come, its in my book that can buy for low, low price 29.99 and thats just for CC members. The normal price is 69.99. Thats a 40 dollars savings and if you act now, we also included some stupid trinket that you really don't need, but you want it.
Re: History of the lost Tribes of Isreal ( Facts ) - NO, FICTION
JGIG - this is your site??? i've enjoyed so much from it!
God Bless you!
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British Israelism, Anglo Israelism . . . pretty much the same stuff. Some of the more radical elements in our society have latched onto a version of it that morphed into the Christian Identity Movement
The Hebrew Roots Movement is preaching the same stuff with an Hebraic twist.
Jim Staley teaches his version in 'Identity Crisis', a rather widely shared video and one that is a gateway for some folks into the Hebrew Roots Movement.
The fact is that there are no 'Lost Tribes' of Israel. It's a made up doctrine based on MUCH twisting of Scripture resulting in at best an elitist and at worst a racist theology.
I've written a thorough article on the Hebrew Roots side of the Lost Tribes doctrine here:
Gateways into the Hebrew Roots Movement – An Examination of ‘Identity Crisis’ and Related Teachings of Jim Staley
An excerpt:
The Totten Reference:
Staley also makes mention of “Prof. C.A.L. Totten (1851-1908) of Yale University” citing the quote as “One of the most amazing quotes that you have ever seen and that I have ever seen” (again with the hyperbole). Totten was a proponent of British Israelism, which over time has morphed into beliefs ranging from the Two House/Ephraimite theology (basically British Israelism with a Hebrew Roots twist and is what Staley is teaching here), to the distinctly more racist Christian Identity Movement.
Both ends of the spectrum like to quote Totten:
So in reality, Totten was not at Yale as a theologian, but a giver of 24 lectures over 4 years at Yale regarding military science.
Totten has no designation after his name indicating that he was ever a true professor at all, let alone a designation that gives him credibility as a theologian.
Billing him as a ‘Yale Professor’ gives Totten and his views acedemic weight and authority that he does not in reality have. Not to diminish the man and his accomplishments, but C.A.L. Totten was neither a theologian nor a professor.
Yet the theological quote from Totten, whose modern-day designation would have been the equivalent of a Yale R.O.T.C. instructor, is “One of the most amazing quotes that you have ever seen and that I have ever seen” according to Staley.
Here is the quote as seen in the ‘Identity Crisis’ video:
-JGIG
The Hebrew Roots Movement is preaching the same stuff with an Hebraic twist.
Jim Staley teaches his version in 'Identity Crisis', a rather widely shared video and one that is a gateway for some folks into the Hebrew Roots Movement.
The fact is that there are no 'Lost Tribes' of Israel. It's a made up doctrine based on MUCH twisting of Scripture resulting in at best an elitist and at worst a racist theology.
I've written a thorough article on the Hebrew Roots side of the Lost Tribes doctrine here:
Gateways into the Hebrew Roots Movement – An Examination of ‘Identity Crisis’ and Related Teachings of Jim Staley
An excerpt:
The Totten Reference:
Staley also makes mention of “Prof. C.A.L. Totten (1851-1908) of Yale University” citing the quote as “One of the most amazing quotes that you have ever seen and that I have ever seen” (again with the hyperbole). Totten was a proponent of British Israelism, which over time has morphed into beliefs ranging from the Two House/Ephraimite theology (basically British Israelism with a Hebrew Roots twist and is what Staley is teaching here), to the distinctly more racist Christian Identity Movement.
Both ends of the spectrum like to quote Totten:
“His name still surfaces from time to time in Christian Identity literature . . . usually as ‘Prof. Totten of Yale’. While Identity writers disdain intellectuals and academics [note that Staley does this, as well], they seem pathetically grateful for any instance in which the halo of academic prestige shines on their ideas. In Totten’s case, however, the tie to Yale was tenuous indeed.
“In 1868, the Sheffield Scientific School at Yale was designated Connecticut’s land-grant college. While that carried financial benefits for the institution, it also obligated Sheffield to provide military instruction for its students. Yale was able to secure a waiver of the drill requirements and was obliged only to provide senior students with a mandatory course of lectures in ’military science’. These proved unproductive, and in 1877, Sheffield adopted a slightly different plan in cooperation with the United States Engineering School, whose officers were to provide six lectures each year on strategy, ordnance, fortification, and similar topics. One of the early officers detailed to this position of professor of military science and tactics was a lieutenant in the artillery named Charles Totten, who held the post from 1889 until 1892.
“Totten’s course appears to have been more successful than earlier military training programs at Yale, but his affiliation with the university was not substantially different from that of Reserve Officer’s Training Corps later on.”
“In 1868, the Sheffield Scientific School at Yale was designated Connecticut’s land-grant college. While that carried financial benefits for the institution, it also obligated Sheffield to provide military instruction for its students. Yale was able to secure a waiver of the drill requirements and was obliged only to provide senior students with a mandatory course of lectures in ’military science’. These proved unproductive, and in 1877, Sheffield adopted a slightly different plan in cooperation with the United States Engineering School, whose officers were to provide six lectures each year on strategy, ordnance, fortification, and similar topics. One of the early officers detailed to this position of professor of military science and tactics was a lieutenant in the artillery named Charles Totten, who held the post from 1889 until 1892.
“Totten’s course appears to have been more successful than earlier military training programs at Yale, but his affiliation with the university was not substantially different from that of Reserve Officer’s Training Corps later on.”
So in reality, Totten was not at Yale as a theologian, but a giver of 24 lectures over 4 years at Yale regarding military science.
Totten has no designation after his name indicating that he was ever a true professor at all, let alone a designation that gives him credibility as a theologian.
Billing him as a ‘Yale Professor’ gives Totten and his views acedemic weight and authority that he does not in reality have. Not to diminish the man and his accomplishments, but C.A.L. Totten was neither a theologian nor a professor.
Yet the theological quote from Totten, whose modern-day designation would have been the equivalent of a Yale R.O.T.C. instructor, is “One of the most amazing quotes that you have ever seen and that I have ever seen” according to Staley.
Here is the quote as seen in the ‘Identity Crisis’ video:
“I can never be too thankful to the Almighty that in my youth he used the late Professor Wilson to show me the difference between the two houses. The very understanding of this difference is the KEY by which almost the entire Bible becomes intelligible, and I cannot state too strongly that the man who has not yet seen that (the house of) Israel of the Scripture is totally distinct from the Jewish people, is yet in the very infancy, the mere alphabet of Biblical study, and that to this day the meaning of seven-eighths of the Bible is shut to his understanding.”—Professor C.A.L. Totten (1851-1908) of Yale University
And I hate to beat a dead horse, but John Wilson was not a professor either.
So we have Jim Staley quoting a ‘professor’ (Totten) who was not a professor who referred to another professor (Wilson) who was also not a professor. Jim Staley is just preaching an updated version of British Israelism with a full Hebraic twist and a recalibrated definition of Gentile, referring to professors who really aren’t professors to give his claims credibility.
So we have Jim Staley quoting a ‘professor’ (Totten) who was not a professor who referred to another professor (Wilson) who was also not a professor. Jim Staley is just preaching an updated version of British Israelism with a full Hebraic twist and a recalibrated definition of Gentile, referring to professors who really aren’t professors to give his claims credibility.
-JGIG
God Bless you!
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arnold murray's hidden life needs to be revealed i guess.
his associations...and people can decide.
his weird teachings are available to anyone to check - he's off the rails on nearly everything critical.
he DOES cover some things properly...but not enough to make him a qualified teacher nathan.
he's not what you think he is...its actually quite sinister.
his associations...and people can decide.
his weird teachings are available to anyone to check - he's off the rails on nearly everything critical.
he DOES cover some things properly...but not enough to make him a qualified teacher nathan.
he's not what you think he is...its actually quite sinister.