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'LGBT rights' is a big deal at the moment - and it's no secret that Hollywood has a gender to promote not just homosexuality, but sexual immorality in general.

As Christians, the only stance to hold is to with 100% authenticity and sincerity love everyone, regardless of their sexual proclivities.

Jesus taught to LOVE people, but to love someone doesn't necessarily mean that you agree with them, or that you're willing to approve of or participate in their lifestyle.

It's become a buzz word within the LGBT community to equate disagreement with homosexuality as a form of discrimination.

Discrimination is the devaluing of a human being. But the value of a human being has 0% to do with their sexual preference.

A heterosexual has no more value than a homosexual. Their value has nothing to do with sexual preference.

As human beings we're born with all kinds of desires. Some good, others bad. Some of our desires are selfishness - you see this in children who don't care about certain toys until another child wants to play with it. Sometimes we have desires to lie, hate, steal, put down others etc. These are all desires that we're to varying degrees born with, but our value, our worth isn't affected or influenced in any way by these tendencies.

Likewise, heterosexuals are born with desires towards people of the opposite gender, and those desires should be, as the writer of proverbs says; not awoken until the right time (marriage). When married they should be directed towards your spouse.

So we all have desires that are sinful, and we all make mistakes - but our identity has NOTHING to do with these desires. These desires don't define us.

Likewise, even if homosexual desire is something a child is born with, they aren't define by it. Just as a heterosexual can come to the cross, and place his evil desires before the feet of Jesus, and ask for forgiveness, reconciliation, and for Gods Spirit to do a miraculous work - so too can the homosexual.

Disagreeing with homosexuality isn't discrimination, it's not unloving - it's a moral stance. It has nothing to do with the value of a person, but the actions that person commits.

Jess loves people who have homosexual desires, he died for them. He values them so much, his blood was shed for them. Gods own blood. But he hates the sin. Loves the sinner, and hates the sins they commit.

The same is true of all forms of sexual immorality, and the same is true of lies, theft, witchcraft - which is what i would equate homosexuality too.
 
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'LGBT rights' is a big deal at the moment - and it's no secret that Hollywood has a gender to promote not just homosexuality, but sexual immorality in general.

As Christians, the only stance to hold is to with 100% authenticity and sincerity love everyone, regardless of their sexual proclivities.

Jesus taught to LOVE people, but to love someone doesn't necessarily mean that you agree with them, or that you're willing to approve of or participate in their lifestyle.

It's become a buzz word within the LGBT community to equate disagreement with homosexuality as a form of discrimination.

Discrimination is the devaluing of a human being. But the value of a human being has 0% to do with their sexual preference.

A heterosexual has no more value than a homosexual. Their value has nothing to do with sexual preference.

As human beings we're born with all kinds of desires. Some good, others bad. Some of our desires are selfishness - you see this in children who don't care about certain toys until another child wants to play with it. Sometimes we have desires to lie, hate, steal, put down others etc. These are all desires that we're to varying degrees born with, but our value, our worth isn't affected or influenced in any way by these tendencies.

Likewise, heterosexuals are born with desires towards people of the opposite gender, and those desires should be, as the writer of proverbs says; not awoken until the right time (marriage). When married they should be directed towards your spouse.

So we all have desires that are sinful, and we all make mistakes - but our identity has NOTHING to do with these desires. These desires don't define us.

Likewise, even if homosexual desire is something a child is born with, they aren't define by it. Just as a heterosexual can come to the cross, and place his evil desires before the feet of Jesus, and ask for forgiveness, reconciliation, and for Gods Spirit to do a miraculous work - so too can the homosexual.

Disagreeing with homosexuality isn't discrimination, it's not unloving - it's a moral stance. It has nothing to do with the value of a person, but the actions that person commits.

Jess loves people who have homosexual desires, he died for them. He values them so much, his blood was shed for them. Gods own blood. But he hates the sin. Loves the sinner, and hates the sins they commit.

The same is true of all forms of sexual immorality, and the same is true of lies, theft, witchcraft - which is what i would equate homosexuality too.
So what is your point!!!
 
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I believe they prefer to be known as LGBTTIQQ2SA now
 
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What is this christian preoccupation with homosexuality?
 

mystdancer50

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Did you know the Bible doesn't say that God loves the sinner and hates the sin? Someone else said that. I believe it to be true because I know He loves us, but He doesn't love us all the same. Those that are His, He loves dearly. Though He loves everyone, it is a different kind of love, if that makes sense.

It would be like saying a man loves all women the way he loves his wife. Not true.

I also have to say that I am so disgusted by the blatant homosexuality going on that it irritates me how often it comes up. The thing is that homosexuality is vile and disgusting and so long as a person continues in their sin and are unrepentant, they are not covered up in the righteous blood of Jesus Christ and thus are not viewed the way the justified are viewed.

Yes, we are to love them and not mistreat them. I agree wholeheartedly. Yet, if a same sex couple asked me to photograph their wedding, I'd refuse.

I think that there is a grave danger in Christians today who are so afraid to appear unloving that they are willing to accept a whole lot of lies fed to them by the mainstream media, so afraid of being called a hate monger that they refuse to stand for the truth. Maybe it's time we stood for the truth again and stopped seeing equality and popularity. Jesus wasn't loved by His generation. He was chased from His own hometown and none there would listen to Him. Why should we expect to be accepted and loved for standing for the same things He stood for when He was rejected, betrayed, abused and murdered?
 
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@Biscuit
So what is your point!!!
I'll guess Ms. Charlotte's points are:
  • No matter who your neighbor is, love them.
  • Show no favoritism.
  • Jesus died on the cross for every single human on Earth, and so we must treat every single human on Earth with love and dignity, including homosexuals.


@Laura_charlotte
Am I right?
 
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What is this christian preoccupation with homosexuality?
No preoccupation here!! Don't hate the individual I just don't approve of the behavior.
 
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@Biscuit

I'll guess Ms. Charlotte's points are:
  • No matter who your neighbor is, love them.
  • Show no favoritism.
  • Jesus died on the cross for every single human on Earth, and so we must treat every single human on Earth with love and dignity, including homosexuals.


@Laura_charlotte
Am I right?
Thanks, I wanted the OP to invest her in her thread. But I do thank you again. What charolette need to understand is most American are willing to accept the sexual orientation. I have lived around gays all my life and personally have nothing against them. However, there is a small percentage that will exhibit behavior that I find repulsive that I will avoid telling on CC. But I think you know what I mean. Gays find me attractive and many will go out of their way to satisfy me in the service industry. I must say I am very well treated by the majority of them However, I am also a target for the abuse.
 
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crossnote

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It is discrimination as well as it should be. We all discriminate. Don't you discriminate between a child molester and one that isn't? I mean which one would you drop off your child to watch? Yes we love them caring for their souls, but we are to be wise and discriminate and act accordingly.
 
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It is discrimination as well as it should be. We all discriminate. Don't you discriminate between a child molester and one that isn't? I mean which one would you drop off your child to watch? Yes we love them caring for their souls, but we are to be wise and discriminate and act accordingly.
They want us to accept their lifestyle & behavior and I never will.
 
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Did you know the Bible doesn't say that God loves the sinner and hates the sin? Someone else said that. I believe it to be true because I know He loves us, but He doesn't love us all the same. Those that are His, He loves dearly. Though He loves everyone, it is a different kind of love, if that makes sense.

It would be like saying a man loves all women the way he loves his wife. Not true.

I also have to say that I am so disgusted by the blatant homosexuality going on that it irritates me how often it comes up. The thing is that homosexuality is vile and disgusting and so long as a person continues in their sin and are unrepentant, they are not covered up in the righteous blood of Jesus Christ and thus are not viewed the way the justified are viewed.

Yes, we are to love them and not mistreat them. I agree wholeheartedly. Yet, if a same sex couple asked me to photograph their wedding, I'd refuse.

I think that there is a grave danger in Christians today who are so afraid to appear unloving that they are willing to accept a whole lot of lies fed to them by the mainstream media, so afraid of being called a hate monger that they refuse to stand for the truth. Maybe it's time we stood for the truth again and stopped seeing equality and popularity. Jesus wasn't loved by His generation. He was chased from His own hometown and none there would listen to Him. Why should we expect to be accepted and loved for standing for the same things He stood for when He was rejected, betrayed, abused and murdered?

Right on my sister, Good Post!
 
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I think the problem with this specific sin is Pride and Acceptance by the society. These people are proud of being like that and the society is baking them up, giving them several rights.

God wants the humble who admits their sins and are ready to repent. But to be proud of your sin!!!!


'LGBT rights' is a big deal at the moment - and it's no secret that Hollywood has a gender to promote not just homosexuality, but sexual immorality in general.

As Christians, the only stance to hold is to with 100% authenticity and sincerity love everyone, regardless of their sexual proclivities.

Jesus taught to LOVE people, but to love someone doesn't necessarily mean that you agree with them, or that you're willing to approve of or participate in their lifestyle.

It's become a buzz word within the LGBT community to equate disagreement with homosexuality as a form of discrimination.

Discrimination is the devaluing of a human being. But the value of a human being has 0% to do with their sexual preference.

A heterosexual has no more value than a homosexual. Their value has nothing to do with sexual preference.

As human beings we're born with all kinds of desires. Some good, others bad. Some of our desires are selfishness - you see this in children who don't care about certain toys until another child wants to play with it. Sometimes we have desires to lie, hate, steal, put down others etc. These are all desires that we're to varying degrees born with, but our value, our worth isn't affected or influenced in any way by these tendencies.

Likewise, heterosexuals are born with desires towards people of the opposite gender, and those desires should be, as the writer of proverbs says; not awoken until the right time (marriage). When married they should be directed towards your spouse.

So we all have desires that are sinful, and we all make mistakes - but our identity has NOTHING to do with these desires. These desires don't define us.

Likewise, even if homosexual desire is something a child is born with, they aren't define by it. Just as a heterosexual can come to the cross, and place his evil desires before the feet of Jesus, and ask for forgiveness, reconciliation, and for Gods Spirit to do a miraculous work - so too can the homosexual.

Disagreeing with homosexuality isn't discrimination, it's not unloving - it's a moral stance. It has nothing to do with the value of a person, but the actions that person commits.

Jess loves people who have homosexual desires, he died for them. He values them so much, his blood was shed for them. Gods own blood. But he hates the sin. Loves the sinner, and hates the sins they commit.

The same is true of all forms of sexual immorality, and the same is true of lies, theft, witchcraft - which is what i would equate homosexuality too.
 
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So what is your point!!!
hahah Good point and not to mention that any sexual deviation from the word of God is based upon lust and being given over to a reprobate mind void of judgment when it comes to the word of God. Yes, Jesus died to pay for all sin and right now we have been extended grace and mercy, but lest we forget there were four of five cities burnt to a crisp because of sexual perversion.
 

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I think the problem with this specific sin is Pride and Acceptance by the society. These people are proud of being like that and the society is baking them up, giving them several rights.

God wants the humble who admits their sins and are ready to repent. But to be proud of your sin!!!!
This is true because the parade that occurs in my town every year is the Gay Pride Parade. It isn't merely the sin, but the blatant pride and glorifying of the sin. The Bible does tell us that the days were coming when they would do things in the light that used to be kept in the dark and they would applaud each other's sin and seek even grander ways to do the sins.
 
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We have the same stupid parade here in Canada!! :D

P.S. I got a message saying reputation post, which I don't understand what this is? Do you know what this is? Did you click something specific because the message is about your post to me


This is true because the parade that occurs in my town every year is the Gay Pride Parade. It isn't merely the sin, but the blatant pride and glorifying of the sin. The Bible does tell us that the days were coming when they would do things in the light that used to be kept in the dark and they would applaud each other's sin and seek even grander ways to do the sins.
 

mystdancer50

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P.S. I got a message saying reputation post, which I don't understand what this is? Do you know what this is? Did you click something specific because the message is about your post to me
Essentially, you click on the "Reputation Comment" link in your notifications and it will take you to a page that looks something like this:

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Then, you click on the thread title on the date you want to see and it will take you to the comment that someone gave you reputation for. :) Also, below the thread title is a comment, if the person left one. Sometimes they don't.
 
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Jess loves people who have homosexual desires, he died for them. He values them so much, his blood was shed for them. Gods own blood. But he hates the sin. Loves the sinner, and hates the sins they commit.
Great post overall but I don't believe this bit is found in the Bible. Also, I could be wrong but I think you meant to write "Jesus" not "Jess", correct? :)
 
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Oh, thanks! :)
But I don't have the link anymore :(
So what did you say about me? And does it appear any where in my profile so I can see it myself other than the link?


Essentially, you click on the "Reputation Comment" link in your notifications and it will take you to a page that looks something like this:

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Then, you click on the thread title on the date you want to see and it will take you to the comment that someone gave you reputation for. :) Also, below the thread title is a comment, if the person left one. Sometimes they don't.
 

mystdancer50

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Oh, thanks! :)
But I don't have the link anymore :(
So what did you say about me? And does it appear any where in my profile so I can see it myself other than the link?
:( I don't know how to find the reputation comments without the link. I just used the back button to get the screen shot, since I had just received a reputation comment...otherwise, I wouldn't have been able to show you. :) I don't remember what I said, either. Sorry.