Is there such a thing as an atheist?

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mustaphadrink

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I'd accept a hug from you anytime, but I am no longer concerned about God not dropping in to acknowledge my prayers. His absence pretty much confirmed my earlier suspicions that he wasn't really there.
Another one of your puzzles. You don't believe that God exists but you pray to him. Talk about a barrels of laughs.
 
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Click through these pictures quickly.

http://cshperspectives.cshlp.org/content/3/5/a005033/F4.large.jpg
http://evolutionoftruth.com/images/cell-3D.gif
http://www.blatner.com/adam/consctransf/greatstory/cellinsidecolor.JPG
http://migration.wordpress.com/files/2007/09/adhesome.jpg
http://www.harunyahya.com/image/evrim_aldatmacasi/cell_complex_structure.jpg
http://www.theberkeleygraduate.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/cellComplexity.jpg
http://allahinayetleri.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/hucre.jpg

Clls are completely interdependant
every part of the 12000 structures must exist simultaneously or the cell dies

the smallest structure contains billions of proteins
One protein to make randomly
at 5,700 RPM or tries per second
would take
7.372,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years to spontaneously form from a mud puddl

IF the amino acids were all the same isomers so they wont poison the chemical mix
but they arent
it is impossiblt to randomly form ONE protein from a racemic mix, it will poison itself every second and die.

evolution is a joke.
evolution is an absolute joke. What you posted about the complexity of the cell doesn't even scratch the surface. The cells in our bodies were designed to reproduce themselves FOREVER. Care to guess what brought in entropy?
 

mustaphadrink

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Tell that to people who believe in fairies, ghosts, alien abductions, etc., etc. Once you stop believing in God the evidence you previously accepted starts to look like it's full of holes. I am not making this up.
Obviously someone is as there is no evidence whatsoever for what atheists claim. You have to take it all by faith...or a pinch of salt.
 

mustaphadrink

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As I was being wheeled into surgery my only thought was that I either wanted a full recovery, or death. I did not care which. I now know that when the end of my life comes, all I will want is an end to suffering.
You talk in riddles my man. That is if you are a man. You say all you want to do is end the suffering and yet you have chosen an eternal life that consists of eternal suffering and reject the one that gives eternal joy.
 

mustaphadrink

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Click through these pictures quickly.

http://cshperspectives.cshlp.org/content/3/5/a005033/F4.large.jpg
http://evolutionoftruth.com/images/cell-3D.gif
http://www.blatner.com/adam/consctransf/greatstory/cellinsidecolor.JPG
http://migration.wordpress.com/files/2007/09/adhesome.jpg
http://www.harunyahya.com/image/evrim_aldatmacasi/cell_complex_structure.jpg
http://www.theberkeleygraduate.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/cellComplexity.jpg
http://allahinayetleri.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/hucre.jpg

Eukaryotic cells are completely interdependant and need all the parts to survive or they die within seconds...
every part of the 12,000 structures must exist simultaneously or the cell dies within a few seconds.

The cell has to be put together eimultaneously or all the membranes neutralize.

the smallest structure contains billions of proteins
One protein to make randomly
at 5,700 RPM or tries per second
would take
7.372,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
years to spontaneously form from a mud puddle and the wassted tries would fill all the known universe with bad protein particls 10^ 45 times

IF the amino acids were all the same isomers so they wont poison the chemical mix
but they arent
it is impossiblt to randomly form ONE protein from a racemic mix, it will poison itself every second and die.

evolution is a joke.
So true And, so true and we are laughing at the evolutionists/atheists all the way to heaven, because when they stand before the judgment seat of Christ they stop being atheists.

Just imagine cycel fronting up and asking "Who are you?" and Jesus replies "Your worst nightmare."
 

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Just being here in the forum shows he believes in God
Whistling in the dark.
 

mustaphadrink

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These facts that you state is also overwhelming evidence contrary to the notion that man is basically good. Sure you can look at the leaders of the nations that murdered so many people and put the blame on them, but the reality of it is, is that ordinary people, just like you and me did and do the dirty work.
So right. Stalin orchestrated a society based on fear and even neighbours told on each other to keep themselves in favour with the KGB. One could not afford a moral perspective as it usually ended up in the gulags or death so self preservation was the centre of everything.
 

Timeline

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Another one of your puzzles. You don't believe that God exists but you pray to him. Talk about a barrels of laughs.
I can see where you might think that he is saying that he prays, but I believe that he is referring to when he used to pray. I don't believe he prays anymore.
 
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and in one case the ordinary people doing the dirty work wore belt buckles bearing the words: "gott mit uns"
 

Timeline

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So right. Stalin orchestrated a society based on fear and even neighbours told on each other to keep themselves in favour with the KGB. One could not afford a moral perspective as it usually ended up in the gulags or death so self preservation was the centre of everything.
I believe that our government has orchestrated a society based on fear - They just took a different approach. Americans are scared of everything because of media and lack of information. People hear a story about something happening to one or two people and they must get the vaccine, or pill, or insurance policy, or alarm, or whatever. It is amazing to me that people get scared about something that there is a very low chance of but get in their cars and drive 70-80 miles an hour and think nothing of it.
 

nl

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Yesterday is History; tomorrow is a Mystery. Today is a Gift, that's why they call it the Present.

Much of the Bible is history to help us to remember the mighty works that God has done.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Which, of course, does not explain why God is letting me experience His acknowledgement of my prayers.

Clearly you separated yourself from God, publicly denied Him, and presently invest a material amount of your time on Christian forums exercising a negative volition making false assertions about Him.

You're shipwrecked (1 Timothy 1:19), in a spiritually bankrupt and deceived state, with a darkened heart (Ephesians 4:18) and it's clear as day to those of us in communion with God.

Yet even in your lost, deceived, spiritually bankrupt state; you serve the purposes of God fulfilling the role of an antagonist... a role you chose for yourself and presently live out somewhat obsessively.

My relationship with God continues to be strengthened in times of adversity... the very thing that led you to dispose of yours.

My tribulation was worse than your own. It was a perfect storm that struck suddenly and went on for years leaving me in poverty, debt, facing homelessness, serious illness, physical deformity, terrible pain, abandonment by friends, and all of the intense emotions that go along with living through such a grueling experience.

But I didn't abandon God as you chose too. I exercised my will and continued pursuing Him. That's when it happened. Subsequently, He supernaturally healed the most serious medical issue (the other remains but is manageable), began to assist me in rebuilding my career (a process that continues), restored my family to me (mission completed successfully), and led me to a church where I made new friends and experience Him work supernaturally as if it is common it happens so often.

It is from my present position of knowing that I watch you make false assertion after false assertion about God from your deceived state as the sand of time flows through the hourglass.

"But for the cowardly and u ἄπιστος, ον and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death" -Revelations 21:8.

Yet while you live, God's offer of reconciliation remains (2 Timothy 2:13).

http://christianchat.com/christian-...sident-atheist-any-questions.html#post1497798


I'd accept a hug from you anytime, but I am no longer concerned about God not dropping in to acknowledge my prayers. His absence pretty much confirmed my earlier suspicions that he wasn't really there.
 
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Click through these pictures quickly.

http://cshperspectives.cshlp.org/content/3/5/a005033/F4.large.jpg
http://evolutionoftruth.com/images/cell-3D.gif
http://www.blatner.com/adam/consctransf/greatstory/cellinsidecolor.JPG
http://migration.wordpress.com/files/2007/09/adhesome.jpg
http://www.harunyahya.com/image/evrim_aldatmacasi/cell_complex_structure.jpg
http://www.theberkeleygraduate.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/cellComplexity.jpg
http://allahinayetleri.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/hucre.jpg

Eukaryotic cells are completely interdependant and need all the parts to survive or they die within seconds...
every part of the 12,000 structures must exist simultaneously or the cell dies within a few seconds.

The cell has to be put together eimultaneously or all the membranes neutralize.

the smallest structure contains billions of proteins
One protein to make randomly
at 5,700 RPM or tries per second
would take
7.372,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
years to spontaneously form from a mud puddle and the wassted tries would fill all the known universe with bad protein particls 10^ 45 times

IF the amino acids were all the same isomers so they wont poison the chemical mix
but they arent
it is impossiblt to randomly form ONE protein from a racemic mix, it will poison itself every second and die.

evolution is a joke.
This concerns abiogenesis, not biological evolution.

You may state the problems for life arising from non-life but that is not evidence against theory of evolution.
 
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Obviously someone is as there is no evidence whatsoever for what atheists claim. You have to take it all by faith...or a pinch of salt.
What do atheists claim?

Atheists by definition reject the "God" claim.

I don't have faith, you do.
 

Timeline

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This concerns abiogenesis, not biological evolution.

You may state the problems for life arising from non-life but that is not evidence against theory of evolution.
Then what is? You don't need to answer that, I know your answer.
 

Timeline

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What do atheists claim?

Atheists by definition reject the "God" claim.

I don't have faith, you do.
I was going to say that you have faith in evolution, but "Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen." there is no assurance of evolution. You do have hope for things not seen though.
 
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I was going to say that you have faith in evolution, but "Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen." there is no assurance of evolution. You do have hope for things not seen though.
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I will use this definition. So no I do not have faith in evolution, I believe it is a credible theory for the diversity of biological life based on evidence.
 

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I will use this definition. So no I do not have faith in evolution, I believe it is a credible theory for the diversity of biological life based on evidence.
I will use the biblical definition, but the result is the same in this case. We both agree that you do not have faith (at least in evolution).
 
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Another one of your puzzles. You don't believe that God exists but you pray to him. Talk about a barrels of laughs.
Pardon me saying this directly but your attitude comes across as hostile the majority of the time. Where is the love that your bible and fellows preach?
 

mustaphadrink

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This concerns abiogenesis, not biological evolution.

You may state the problems for life arising from non-life but that is not evidence against theory of evolution.
of course not...this week. Next week it will be another story depending what lies have to be defended.