The law - an explanation/revelation of its use/purpose

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phil112

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I often refer to reference volumes by Adam Clarke when there is information or insight I want on some non-doctrinal aspects of the bible. He wrote a comprehensive commentary that was/is an authority in many religious bodies.
He was a man of God, as evidenced by his writing. Here is what he said on the law. It is his comment on the 49th verse of the 12th chapter of Exodus.

I rarely post long and laboric copy and pastes, but there is some very good information here and I fear that many of you would not bother to click on the link, which I will provide.

I truly hope that you will read this carefully and think about what he is telling us about the law.

Exodus 12:49 "One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you."

"One law shall be to him that is home-born, &c." - As this is the first place that the term hrwt torah or LAW occurs, a term of the greatest importance in Divine revelation, and on the proper understanding of which much depends, I judge it best to give its genuine explanation once for all.
The word hrwt torah comes from the root hry yarah, which signifies to aim at, teach, point out, direct, lead, guide, make straight, or even; and from these significations of the word (and in all these senses it is used in the Bible) we may see at once the nature, properties, and design of the law of God. It is a system of INSTRUCTION in righteousness; it teaches the difference between moral good and evil; ascertains what is right and fit to be done, and what should be left undone, because improper to be performed. It continually aims at the glory of God, and the happiness of his creatures; teaches the true knowledge of the true God, and the destructive nature of sin; points out the absolute necessity of an atonement as the only means by which God can be reconciled to transgressors; and in its very significant rites and ceremonies points out the Son of God, till he should come to put away iniquity by the sacrifice of himself. It is a revelation of God's wisdom and goodness, wonderfully well calculated to direct the hearts of men into the truth, to guide their feet into the path of life, and to make straight, even, and plain that way which leads to God, and in which the soul must walk in order to arrive at eternal life. It is the fountain whence every correct notion relative to God-his perfections, providence, grace, justice, holiness, omniscience, and omnipotence, has been derived. And it has been the origin whence all the true principles of law and justice have been deduced. The pious study of it was the grand means of producing the greatest kings, the most enlightened statesmen, the most accomplished poets, and the most holy and useful men, that ever adorned the world. It is exceeded only by the Gospel of Jesus Christ, which is at once the accomplishment of its rites and predictions, and the fulfillment of its grand plan and outline. As a system of teaching or instruction, it is the most sovereign and most effectual; as by it is the knowledge of sin, and it alone is the schoolmaster, pai dagwgov, that leads men to Christ, that they may be justified through faith.
Gal. iii. 24. Who can absolutely ascertain the exact quantum of obliquity in a crooked line, without the application of a straight one? And could sin, in all its twistings, windings, and varied involutions, have ever been truly ascertained, had not God given to man this perfect rule to judge by? The nations who acknowledge this revelation of God have, as far as they attained to its dictates, the wisest, purest, most equal, and most beneficial laws. The nations that do not receive it have laws at once extravagantly severe and extravagantly indulgent. The proper distinctions between moral good and evil, in such states, are not known: hence the penal sanctions are not founded on the principles of justice, weighing the exact proportion of moral turpitude; but on the most arbitrary caprices, which in many cases show the utmost indulgence to first-rate crimes, while they punish minor offenses with rigour and cruelty. What is the consequence? Just what might be reasonably expected: the will and caprice of a man being put in the place of the wisdom of God, the government is oppressive, and the people, frequently goaded to distraction, rise up in a mass and overturn it; so that the monarch, however powerful for a time, seldom lives out half his days. This was the case in Greece, in Rome, in the major part of the Asiatic governments, and is the case in all nations of the world to the present day, where the governor is despotic, and the laws not formed according to the revelation of God.
The word lex, law, among the Romans, has been derived from lego, I read; because when a law or statute was made, it was hung up in the most public places, that it might be seen, read, and known by all men, that those who were to obey the laws might not break them through ignorance, and thus incur the penalty. This was called promulgatio legis, q. provulgatio, the promulgation of the law, i.e., the laying it before the common people. Or from ligo, I bind, because the law binds men to the strict observance of its precepts. The Greeks call a law nomov nomos, from nemw, to divide, distribute, minister to, or serve, because the law divides to all their just rights, appoints or distributes to each his proper duty, and thus serves or ministers to the welfare of the individual and the support of society. Hence where there are either no laws, or unequal and unjust ones, all is distraction, violence, rapine, oppression, anarchy, and ruin.
Clarke wrote this in the early 1800s and I am fond of early writers because I find a deeper study where there are fewer modern distractions.

Adam Clarke's Bible Commentary - Exodus 12
 
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phil112

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What happened to the sabbath/law keepers? The silence is deafening..............
 
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I am not in the legalistic camp in any way,
But I don't think you should consider Clarke as a 'non-doctrinal' source.
He is known for his Methodist bias, and even several recurring themes that mainline Methodist view as extreme.

I use his commentary often as a source, but also with the understanding of his biases.

He was a man of great understanding, and eloquence,
but like all of us, he did retain doctrinal "pets", which affect his conclusions.
(Arminianist doctrine to be specific, is the most notable and uncontroversial)
 
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Why does Saturday or Sunday have to be the Sabbath, man's names of the days of the week...I worship every day, I already threw that out
 
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If I keep the Sabbath everyday, what does that tell you absolutely about the law bit
 
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If I keep the Sabbath everyday, what does that tell you absolutely about the law bit

God said six days is for work and the seventh day is sacred. You say, "No! I'll rest seven days a week." Oh yeah, that's following God. It seems to me that you follow Adam Clark over The Father, the Son, the Spirit, the Apostles and the early church. Did you know that before Paul's conversion he would go from synagogue to synagogue
every Sabbath pulling Christians out to beat them and imprison them for believing in Jesus?
 
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God said six days is for work and the seventh day is sacred. You say, "No! I'll rest seven days a week." Oh yeah, that's following God. It seems to me that you follow Adam Clark over The Father, the Son, the Spirit, the Apostles and the early church. Did you know that before Paul's conversion he would go from synagogue to synagogue
every Sabbath pulling Christians out to beat them and imprison them for believing in Jesus?
Let anyone come beat me PLEASE I beg IT
 
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Why does Saturday or Sunday have to be the Sabbath, man's names of the days of the week...I worship every day, I already threw that out
Did you know that God forewarned us that a system would rise up in the last days and change His Law and His times? Do you think the Sabbath change happened by accident? Do you think the man of sin being reveal after a secret rapture just happened to become a belief to be accepted because it's true? Do you think Christmas, Easter, Good Friday, resurrection Sunday, 40 days of Lent, Halloween and Sunday observance just happened to become part of God's people because they are true? Don't be deceived, God's times and Law were changed! Come out of Babylon or take part in her sins!

If Jesus said He is Lord of the seventh day Sabbath that makes the seventh day Sabbath the Lord's Day, not Sunday. If Jesus is your Lord then that makes the seventh day your special day too. You can observe Sunday as the Lord's and call it holy and blessed and set it aside for sacred assembly every week and still you won't be following the ways of God. Oh, don't get me wrong, you will have a form of godliness but you are denying that which defines what is godly.
 
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The law is for the lawless. And the time and laws were changed, but not how you think. There is no law about going to church on Saturday or Sunday.
 
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You better gather what you have right now and go lock everything up with yourself if you plan on making it...otherwise it is less than the dirt that is beneth your feet...Who is deceived I wish not to shame anyone who is already placed in the pit...only the man will suffer these days and HE shown not to be fit...those names will be blot and those lives will exit...GOD's day is always except HE for you already change it...in those who live that way HE has already administered cuts to your exit...go while you have the chance to least you fail to end this fit
 
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The law is for the lawless. And the time and laws were changed, but not how you think. There is no law about going to church on Saturday or Sunday.
Let me quote from the Contemporary English Version because it says it very clearly.

Leviticus 23:3 You have six days when you can do your work, but the seventh day of each week is holy because it belongs to Me. No matter where you live, you must rest on the Sabbath and come together for worship. This law will never change.

Did you know that Jesus said He is Lord of the seventh day Sabbath? He is Lord of THE Sabbath. THE? What do you think the word (THE) is referring to? It's referring to a literal day that Jesus said He is Lord of and it's not Sunday.
 
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You better gather what you have right now and go lock everything up with yourself if you plan on making it...otherwise it is less than the dirt that is beneth your feet...Who is deceived I wish not to shame anyone who is already placed in the pit...only the man will suffer these days and HE shown not to be fit...those names will be blot and those lives will exit...GOD's day is always except HE for you already change it...in those who live that way HE has already administered cuts to your exit...go while you have the chance to least you fail to end this fit
If you love God and He is indwelling you it will be hard for you to not obey His commandments. The reason for this is because that's promise of the new covenant. God indwelling us and writing His Law in our heart and mind, not doing away with it. Who's side are you on anyway? God's or Satan's?
 
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Let me quote from the Contemporary English Version because it says it very clearly.

Leviticus 23:3 You have six days when you can do your work, but the seventh day of each week is holy because it belongs to Me. No matter where you live, you must rest on the Sabbath and come together for worship. This law will never change.

Did you know that Jesus said He is Lord of the seventh day Sabbath? He is Lord of THE Sabbath. THE? What do you think the word (THE) is referring to? It's referring to a literal day that Jesus said He is Lord of and it's not Sunday.
Did you notice that it said SABBATH and NOT SATURDAY? Do not be ignorant of this, that a day with the Lord is as 1000 years.

6000 years man was given to do his work. Remembering the Sabbath is a time God promised to put an end to things like worrying about how to pay rent, and people starving because they simply don't have money. These things and more God will put an end to. THIS is the sabbath.

Every 7 years, the people were to be released of such debt to start anew. Have we done this?

In 2001 the towers fell.

In 2008 America had its biggest stock loss since the depression.

What do you think will happen in 2015?
 
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If you love God and He is indwelling you it will be hard for you to not obey His commandments. The reason for this is because that's promise of the new covenant. God indwelling us and writing His Law in our heart and mind, not doing away with it. Who's side are you on anyway? God's or Satan's?
Exactly to write HIS law in our hearts, preserving it...not write These laws in our hearts preserving them in it
 
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chubbena

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What happened to the sabbath/law keepers? The silence is deafening..............
Just another proof that there are as many anti-Sabbath threads and pro-Sabbath's and that anti-Sabbath Christians are as irritating as pro-Sabbath ones :)
 
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and we already know the lukewarm are definitely out
 

KohenMatt

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What happened to the sabbath/law keepers? The silence is deafening..............
The silence was deafening from me because I tend to make it a habit to sleep in the middle of the night.:p

As an aside, I don't think I've read a word from Adam Clarke. Not saying he's good or bad, I just never have. Then again, I don't think I've ever read much of any commentaries.
 

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The Sabbath has less to do with Saturday than it has to do with rest. The word Sabbath means rest. If you want to live by the law then live by the first law. Love the Lord thy God with all thy strength, mind, and spirit. On this hangs all the law.

Jesus never taught that the Sabbath should be worshipped. Jesus healed on the Sabbath and taught that man was not made for the Sabbath but that the Sabbath was made for the man. Rest is rest but labor in the Lord is rest.

For the cause of Christ
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KohenMatt

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After reading Clarke's stuff, I see nothing contrary to my beliefs. I agree with just about everything in there.

I can't say for certain because it gets a little confusing to read a lengthy passage that has no paragraph breaks.
 
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notuptome;The Sabbath has less to do with Saturday than it has to do with rest. The word Sabbath means rest. If you want to live by the law then live by the first law. Love the Lord thy God with all thy strength, mind, and spirit. On this hangs all the law.
The Law hangs from loving God and loving neighbor, not cut off and done away with.

Jesus never taught that the Sabbath should be worshipped.
Why! Who's worshiping the seventh day? God rested on the seventh day, Jesus rested on the seventh day, Paul rested on the seventh day and the early church rested on the seventh day Sabbath. Honoring the seventh day as being special to God is in itself an act of worship. I don't worship may parent because I honor them according to God.

Jesus healed on the Sabbath and taught that man was not made for the Sabbath but that the Sabbath was made for the man. Rest is rest but labor in the Lord is rest.
Amen Jesus healed on the Sabbath and He also taught that it wasn't a violation of it.
 
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