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dcontroversal said:
My bible tells me Jesus took the law, nailed it to his cross, and satisfied the requirements of the law....and now BY FAITH we are JUSTIFIED APART FROM THE LAW and without the deeds/works of the law.
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Does it also tell you that the Law is how people are led to Christ?

Galatians 3:24-25
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
 
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dcontroversal said:
False....the world....and preemptive and ONLY APPLIED when one believes....that is waht you cannot grasp because you are blinded to the truth by your Calvinistic religion
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That's what SCRIPTURE says.

We are Gods People by Faith in Christ.

Salvation is the Gift of God.


It is not the gift of free-willers making their god do their will.
 
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Grandpa said:
That's what SCRIPTURE says.

We are Gods People by Faith in Christ.

Salvation is the Gift of God.


It is not the gift of free-willers making their god do their will.
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I think you might be going to where you started.. with the free-willers argument.:)
 
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ForestGreenCook

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eternally-gratefull said:
No he died for the world

yet he will not force the world to recieve his salvation

your adding things which are not written
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God accomplishes all of his will. Dan 4:35, And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing; and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of earth, and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?

If Christ died to save all mankind to eternal heaven, then all mankind will be in heaven, and we all know that will not harmonize with the other scriptures

Your misinterpreting scriptures that are written.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Grandpa said:
Jesus didn't take away the Law.

He gave BELIEVERS Rest from their work at the Law when they come to Him.

Otherwise, the Law is very much in effect.
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I can not agree brim the law is not in effect. No one on judgment day will be cast to hell because of sin they will be cast because they were condemned, they are condemned because as Jesus said they did not believe
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Grandpa said:
Exposing our sin is condemnation.

If some people are not led to Christ then they are still under the condemnation of the Law.

The Law obviously doesn't lead EVERYONE to Christ. Otherwise, there would be no Jews.
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Jesus said otherwise

he said they are condemned because of unbelief

whoever does not believe is condemned already because they have not believed
 
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Grandpa said:
If they didn't receive the Atonement then their sins ARE NOT paid for.

That's what the Atonement is. Payment for sins.
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think about what you just said
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Grandpa said:
Yes. By faith. That means BELIEVERS.

That's what I've been stating all along.

The Lord did not come to destroy the Law. It is held perfectly in place in order to lead His People to Him.

Once a person has come to Christ, IE Becomes a Believer, they are no longer under the Law.
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again, think of what you just said,
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Grandpa said:
It has been dealt with at the cross ONLY FOR BELIEVERS.

Non believers still retain their own sin.
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They are not judged for sin on the day of the great white throne for a reason

they are judged for works and found lacking
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Grandpa said:
For all of Gods People.
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For everyone

but only those who come to Christ (your words) are made alive, because of atonement

remember even in the law, the day of atonement cause atonement for al, Israel, saved or not,,
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Grandpa said:
Does it also tell you that the Law is how people are led to Christ?

Galatians 3:24-25
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
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It was given to isreal so they could know Jesus when he came

not just saved people saved people do not need the law. They have already been led
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Grandpa said:
It is not the gift of free-willers making their god do their will.
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again bro, please stop with this, it is not true. No one makes god do their will. It does not even make sense, and is in effect bearing false witness,
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Duskey said:
EG chastises people for bad behavior then comes up with the above ungodliness. 🙄

Look inside yourself. Sound familiar?
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No, I am just using the same words she used to use against preachers girls when she and a bunch of others used to say that about 2 other young ladies who were slammed for following him and believing everything he did

i am hoping she sees how hypocritical she is, but I have lost all hope that she will listen, that’s why I finally had to put her where preacher is

but hey if you want to condone what she does. so be it
 
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ForestGreenCook

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dcontroversal said:
False, the above embellishment is contrary to the truth and skewed to make an invalid point...the word comes from kosmos and is.....

kosmos: order, the world
Original Word: κόσμος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: kosmos
Phonetic Spelling: (kos'-mos)
Definition: order, the world
Usage: the world, universe; worldly affairs; the inhabitants of the world; adornment.
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John 1:10-13, The world knew him not. Does this mean that all the inhabitants of the world knew him not? No it dosen't, but many received him. Who was it that received him? Those which were born of God.

There is a world of believers, and there is a world of non-believers. All of mankind does not make up either of these worlds.
 
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