Catholicism vs Protestantism

[Jackson123]

Colossians 1:16 For by him all things were created, in the heavens and on the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and for him.

Yes by Him all thing are create Satan is God creation and the Bible say Satan is liar and pope help Satan to lie

Vatican try to lie to make people believe J
Exemplore»UFOs & Aliens
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[Jackson123]

Colossians 1:16 For by him all things were created, in the heavens and on the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and for him.

if aliens exist, they would be something in "the heavens", or "sky".

the Bible doesn't say that God created the Aurora Borealis, either.
one reason for that is probably because people in the Middle East can't see the Auroras.

but I think it would be a mistake to conclude that therefore they come from Satan.

same thing would be true with aliens.
if they exist, it would be because God created them.


my brother, that's a pretty big stretch, imo, to go from the pope speculating about the possibility of aliens and how they would fit in his theology to saying he works for them.

anyways, a lot of Protestants accept the possibility of aliens, so it's hardly a "Catholic vs Protestant" issue.


So Paul got to his feet in the middle of their council, and began, “Gentlemen of Athens, my own eyes tell me that you are in all respects an extremely religious people. For as I made my way here and looked at your shrines I noticed one altar (one of a number in Athens) on which were inscribed the words, TO GOD THE UNKNOWN. It is this God whom you are worshipping in ignorance that I am here to proclaim to you!
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts 17:22-24&version=PHILLIPS

Paul know true God is Jesus, and Jesus teach people not to worship idol, whosoever worship idol not worship jesus

do you honestly believe that Paul did not proclaim the true God to them?
I don't think you do, since you believe the Bible.

 

[Dan_473]

Yes by Him all thing are create Satan is God creation and the Bible say Satan is liar and pope help Satan to lie

Vatican try to lie to make people believe J
Exemplore»UFOs & Aliens
Shocking New Findings Reveal That the Vatican Is Waiting For an Alien Savior
https://exemplore.com/ufos-aliens/An-Alien-God-is-Coming-and-Vatican-is-Ready-for-Him

the Bible doesn't say that there is intelligent life on other planets,
neither does it say that there is not.

a lot of Protestants, including myself, accept the possibility of intelligent life on other planets,
so it's not really a "Catholic vs Protestant" issue, imo.

 

[Dan_473]

@Jackson123 said,
"Paul know true God is Jesus, and Jesus teach people not to worship idol, whosoever worship idol not worship jesus"

23 I was going through your city, and I saw the things you worship. I found an altar that had these words written on it: “TO A GOD WHO IS NOT KNOWN.” You worship a god that you don’t know. This is the God I am telling you about! 24 He is the God who made the whole world and everything in it.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+17&version=ICB

Paul says
"This is the God I am telling you about!"

I don't know how to make it any clearer.

 

[Jackson123]

@Jackson123 said,
"Paul know true God is Jesus, and Jesus teach people not to worship idol, whosoever worship idol not worship jesus"

23 I was going through your city, and I saw the things you worship. I found an altar that had these words written on it: “TO A GOD WHO IS NOT KNOWN.” You worship a god that you don’t know. This is the God I am telling you about! 24 He is the God who made the whole world and everything in it.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+17&version=ICB

Paul says
"This is the God I am telling you about!"

I don't know how to make it any clearer.

You believe you can worship Jesus and idol in the same time?

 

[Jackson123]

the Bible doesn't say that there is intelligent life on other planets,
neither does it say that there is not.

a lot of Protestants, including myself, accept the possibility of intelligent life on other planets,
so it's not really a "Catholic vs Protestant" issue, imo.

Vatican is catholic official representative and say Jesus it may allien.
The Bible don't say there is allien, so vatican is lie. Allien is Satan.
It may there is protestant believe in allien but I never know if there is official Protestant representative believe allien not satan

 

[Dan_473]

You believe you can worship Jesus and idol in the same time?

yes, I believe that is what Paul is saying.

the Athenians were worshipping the true God and idols at the same time.

this is because they didn't know what was going on, they were ignorant.

because they were worshipping the true God, they were also worshipping Jesus.
again, since they were ignorant, they didn't know that.

18 Some of the Epicurean and Stoic philosophers[a] argued with him. Some of them said, “This man doesn’t know what he is talking about. What is he trying to say?” Paul was telling them the Good News of Jesus’ rising from death. They said, “He seems to be telling us about some other gods.”
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+17&version=ICB

 

[Dan_473]

Vatican is catholic official representative and say Jesus it may allien.

sorry, I can't understand that sentence.

The Bible don't say there is allien, so vatican is lie.

I believe your reasoning is faulty.

for example,
the Bible doesn't say that Auroras exist.
it does not follow not everyone who says they do exist is lying.

 

[Jackson123]

yes, I believe that is what Paul is saying.

the Athenians were worshipping the true God and idols at the same time.

this is because they didn't know what was going on, they were ignorant.

because they were worshipping the true God, they were also worshipping Jesus.
again, since they were ignorant, they didn't know that.

18 Some of the Epicurean and Stoic philosophers[a] argued with him. Some of them said, “This man doesn’t know what he is talking about. What is he trying to say?” Paul was telling them the Good News of Jesus’ rising from death. They said, “He seems to be telling us about some other gods.”
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+17&version=ICB

Matthew 6:24 King James Version (KJV)

24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

 

[Jackson123]

sorry, I can't understand that sentence.


I believe your reasoning is faulty.

for example,
the Bible doesn't say that Auroras exist.
it does not follow not everyone who says they do exist is lying.

1. Simple sentence

Vatican represent catholic, I am not represent Baptist though I am a member of baptist church.

2. Auroras is not allien.
Bible do not say there is mango but there is.

Bible doesn't say there is mango but bible say there are fruits

Bible doesn't say there is allien, but bible say Satan is liar, seem to me allien is Satan pretend to be allien like Satan pretend to be dead uncle. And catholic work for Satan to lie, soma time pretend to be mary, come to some people

 

[Dan_473]

Matthew 6:24 King James Version (KJV)

24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Amen to that scripture!

it reminded me of
Our firm decision is to work from this focused center: One man died for everyone. That puts everyone in the same boat. He included everyone in his death so that everyone could also be included in his life, a resurrection life, a far better life than people ever lived on their own.
Because of this decision we don’t evaluate people by what they have or how they look. We looked at the Messiah that way once and got it all wrong, as you know. We certainly don’t look at him that way anymore. Now we look inside, and what we see is that anyone united with the Messiah gets a fresh start, is created new.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+5&version=MSG

 

[Jackson123]

Amen to that scripture!

it reminded me of
Our firm decision is to work from this focused center: One man died for everyone. That puts everyone in the same boat. He included everyone in his death so that everyone could also be included in his life, a resurrection life, a far better life than people ever lived on their own.
Because of this decision we don’t evaluate people by what they have or how they look. We looked at the Messiah that way once and got it all wrong, as you know. We certainly don’t look at him that way anymore. Now we look inside, and what we see is that anyone united with the Messiah gets a fresh start, is created new.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+5&version=MSG

I don't think every one in the world will united.

Verses Compiled by :
Bill Kochman/Bill's Bible Basics


Last Updated :
March 16, 2011



"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."
Matthew 7:15, KJV


"Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."
Matthew 10:16, KJV


"Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves."
Luke 10:3, KJV


"For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock."

 

[Dan_473]

1. Simple sentence

Vatican represent catholic, I am not represent Baptist though I am a member of baptist church.

I think what you're getting at is that Catholics have a leader,
but for Protestants, everyone does what is right in his or her own eyes.

2. Auroras is not allien.

that's right!
I was drawing a parallel.

Bible do not say there is mango but there is.

Bible doesn't say there is mango but bible say there are fruits

right again,
the Bible talks about fruit on Earth just like it talks about creatures in heaven

Revelation 5:13 I heard every created thing which is in heaven, on the earth, under the earth, on the sea, and everything in them, saying, "To him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb be the blessing, the honor, the glory, and the dominion, forever and ever! Amen!"

Bible doesn't say there is allien, but bible say Satan is liar,

I agree that the Bible supports what you're saying up to this point.

seem to me allien is Satan pretend to be allien like Satan pretend to be dead uncle. And catholic work for Satan to lie, soma time pretend to be mary, come to some people

but here it looks to me like you are giving your opinion.

 

[Dan_473]

I don't think every one in the world will united.



Verses Compiled by :

Bill Kochman/Bill's Bible Basics





Last Updated :

March 16, 2011







"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."

Matthew 7:15, KJV





"Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."

Matthew 10:16, KJV





"Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves."

Luke 10:3, KJV





"For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock."

great scriptures!
I don't think everyone in the world will be united, either.

maybe this translation makes it clearer
14 The love of Christ controls us. Because we know that One died for all. So all have died. 15 Christ died for all so that those who live would not continue to live for themselves. He died for them and was raised from death so that they would live for him.
16 From this time on we do not think of anyone as the world does. It is true that in the past we thought of Christ as the world thinks. But we no longer think of him in that way. 17 If anyone belongs to Christ, then he is made new. The old things have gone; everything is made new!
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+5&version=ICB

 

[Jackson123]

I think what you're getting at is that Catholics have a leader,

Protestant have a leader too. But I am not a leader and not represent Baptist.

but here it looks to me like you are giving your opinion.

Opinion base on Bible (Satan is liar) and base on experiance that devil like to pretend being something else and history catholic lie on saling indulgence etc

 

[Dan_473]

Protestant have a leader too. But I am not a leader and not represent Baptist.

who is the Protestant leader?

from what I've seen, most Protestants will not follow someone who goes against what they personally believe the Bible says.

Opinion base on Bible (Satan is liar) and base on experiance that devil like to pretend being something else

yes, Satan pretends to be something else, an angel of light
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no wonder, for even Satan masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is no great thing therefore if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

I don't think it follows, though, that every time we meet something else, it must be Satan.

and history catholic lie on saling indulgence etc

in the past, many Protestants said that the Bible taught that slavery was a good thing.
so Protestants lie, too.

 

[Jackson123]

who is the Protestant leader?

Your church have a leader isn't it? Your pastor and your pastor under Methodist denomination and have leader too.

Some catholic have individual believe too. There are Catholic against lumen gentium from Vatican second council. Some are agree. But Vatican represent catholic.

I don't think it follows, though, that every time we meet something else, it must be Satan.

Not always, but in this case I believe it is satan

in the past, many Protestants said that the Bible taught that slavery was a good thing.

Slavery can be pay one to work in your garden, it is ok as long as you love them that work for you

 

[Dan_473]

Your church have a leader isn't it? Your pastor

myself and the methodists I know decide for themselves what to believe.
the person called the pastor is more of a teacher, a presenter of ideas.

and your pastor under Methodist denomination and have leader too.

I think final decisions in the United Methodist Church are made by the general assembly, a group of about 1000 delegates.
if people don't like the decisions, they leave and go somewhere else.

Some catholic have individual believe too. There are Catholic against lumen gentium from Vatican second council.

I'm not sure, but I think if a Catholic no longer agrees not everything the church teaches is true,
they are supposed to excommunicate themselves.

Some are agree. But Vatican represent catholic.

yes, and I don't think there is anything similar in the entire Protestant world.
most Protestants believe the holy Spirit guides them directly, not through a visible organization.

Not always, but in this case I believe it is satan

yes, and you can certainly choose to believe that.

Slavery can be pay one to work in your garden, it is ok as long as you love them that work for you

the kind of slavery that many Protestants in the past said was good involved whippings.
so, what they were saying was a lie.

 

[Jackson123]

myself and the methodists I know decide for themselves what to believe.

I think final decisions in the United Methodist Church are made by the general assembly, a group of about 1000 delegates.

So your leader is general assembly and if you not agree with your leader you leave.
So does Catholic, if they not agree they leave, but in the past some that not agree suffer persecution.

the kind of slavery that many Protestants in the past said was good involved whippings.

I am not agree whipping involvement

 

[Dan_473]

So your leader is general assembly and if you not agree with your leader you leave.

So does Catholic, if they not agree they leave, but in the past some that not agree suffer persecution.

yes, I think that's because in Europe ideas about religious freedom became popular in those countries that had been part of the Protestant Reformation.

I am not agree whipping involvement

I'm not sure what you mean.

if you are saying that whipping slaves is unchristian, I agree!
so Protestants who said it was good were lying.