I told you and you don't listen. It doesn't say "death spread to everyone because everyone sinned". You need to get rid of that translation.
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Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?
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I told you and you don't listen. It doesn't say "death spread to everyone because everyone sinned". You need to get rid of that translation.
http://www.bible-researcher.com/nlt.html
Check out this translation:
It is impossible to do what God’s standards demand because of the weakness our human nature has. But God sent his Son to have a human nature as sinners have and to pay for sin. That way God condemned sin in our corrupt nature.
Romans 8:3 GW
https://bible.com/bible/70/rom.8.3.GW
It is impossible to do what God’s standards demand because of the weakness our human nature has. But God sent his Son to have a human nature as sinners have and to pay for sin. That way God condemned sin in our corrupt nature.
Romans 8:3 GW
https://bible.com/bible/70/rom.8.3.GW
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God who is not a man as us, never was never could be a human. He is supernatural( Without nature as a beginning) .He remains without form and is not made up of the corrupted rudiments of this world without nature as a beginning . The Holy Spirit or the Son of God not seen lived in a corrupted body as the Son of man typified as sinful in order to put away sin in the flesh and in that body never received worship as if He was God.
When called "good master" knowing we are not to call any man as that seen master. for one is our infallible teacher in heaven. To confirm no man can serve two masters, (1) the flesh as that seen and (2)the unseen Spirit. The Son of man as a representative glory gave the glory to God not seen , only God not seen is good
There simply is no mediator between God and mans as that seen .
Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.
And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.Luke 18:17-19
It says the same here in this translation:
Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—
Romans 5:12 NIV
https://bible.com/bible/111/rom.5.12.NIV
Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—
Romans 5:12 NIV
https://bible.com/bible/111/rom.5.12.NIV
Are you a KJV only looney? If so , here it says the same in it too:
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Romans 5:12 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/rom.5.12.KJV
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Romans 5:12 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/rom.5.12.KJV
Adam may not have had a 'sin nature before he was tempted.....but he had 'human nature with the TENDENCY and ABILITY to sin/disobey the Commandment given Gen 2v16, 17. Adam gave way to the flesh because his human Mind/spirit was weak. We can only overcome sin by the Holy Spirit of God, NOT our weak human spirit.
God allows temptation to show us just how 'vulnerable we are without HIS Power/Spirit in us....which is only given us in OBEDIENCE Acts 5v32. Heb 5v8,9 .
God allows temptation to show us just how 'vulnerable we are without HIS Power/Spirit in us....which is only given us in OBEDIENCE Acts 5v32. Heb 5v8,9 .
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We can assume that His human nature was mortal and was suffered and had lust, He was also experienced human fear. Ie, both the physical flesh and His soul had human inclination with which He fought. He was tempted, but he stood in the mortal body and did not commit sin, so he was sinless.
"7 In the days of his flesh, Jesusa offered up prayers and supplications, with loud cries and tears, to him who was able to save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverence. 8 Although he was a son, he learned obedience through what he suffered. 9 And being made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey him," Hebr 5:7-9.
"7 In the days of his flesh, Jesusa offered up prayers and supplications, with loud cries and tears, to him who was able to save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverence. 8 Although he was a son, he learned obedience through what he suffered. 9 And being made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey him," Hebr 5:7-9.
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What you are saying is making Jesus human, but not God. You are denying that he is God. Your making him just an ordinary man, and he is God. This is an example: If a doctor took sperm from man I don't know and an egg from a woman that I don't know; put them together and placed them into my womb, I gave birth to a baby, Even if I raised the baby, it is not my biological baby. Do you understand.?
I am not denying His full deity. But you need to consider His full humanity. Jesus participated in all 3 parts of the curse on Adam: #1 Jesus worked as a carpenter; #2 He ate food; #3 He physically died. See here:
And to the man he said, “Since you listened to your wife and ate from the tree whose fruit I commanded you not to eat, the ground is cursed because of you. All your life you will struggle to scratch a living from it. It will grow thorns and thistles for you, though you will eat of its grains. By the sweat of your brow will you have food to eat until you return to the ground from which you were made. For you were made from dust, and to dust you will return.”
Genesis 3:17-19 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/gen.3.17-19.NLT
And to the man he said, “Since you listened to your wife and ate from the tree whose fruit I commanded you not to eat, the ground is cursed because of you. All your life you will struggle to scratch a living from it. It will grow thorns and thistles for you, though you will eat of its grains. By the sweat of your brow will you have food to eat until you return to the ground from which you were made. For you were made from dust, and to dust you will return.”
Genesis 3:17-19 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/gen.3.17-19.NLT
