Do you observe the Sabbath?

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Mar 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: 28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
 

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The law for keeping the sabbath added to by the Pharisees..
Man made standards that were a burden on people.

Gods sabbath may require some sacrifice, but they are things we are happy to do for God.

The sabbath is a delight.
 

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Mar 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: 28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
^n them meaning jews, all born under the Law.
 
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Did God call it the "Sabbath day" at creation and establish a Sabbath day law? Does the Bible teach that from Adam from Moses people were keeping the Sabbath day? Where in the OT is the word "Sabbath" first mentioned?

As for Paul, evangelism/sharing the gospel was his mission here. Acts 18:4 - "And he was reasoning in the synagogue every Sabbath and trying to persuade Jews and Greeks.

You seem to mix the old with the new covenant.
Hi my friend :)

The first time the word sabat was in the Bible (the root of Sabbath) was in Genesis 2:2 when God ceased working on the seventh day. The Sabbath was there from the beginning :)

Enjoy your weekend!
 

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The law for keeping the sabbath added to by the Pharisees..
Man made standards that were a burden on people.

Gods sabbath may require some sacrifice, but they are things we are happy to do for God.

The sabbath is a delight.
The law was fulfilled by Jesus and the law has been annulled as a mechanism of righteousness.

Our righteousness now is in the form of a gift, freely given to us by Jesus, His righteousness. An eternal righteousness.

We cannot be judged because we are the very righteousness of God Himself.

It is not what we can do, as the Jews tried to do through the law.

All the Sabbath does is grant you the knowledge of your sin, openly condemns your vain attempts to be a righteous person.

How wide of the mark you really are.
 

mailmandan

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Hi my friend :)

The first time the word sabat was in the Bible (the root of Sabbath) was in Genesis 2:2 when God ceased working on the seventh day. The Sabbath was there from the beginning :)

Enjoy your weekend!
Root of Sabbath or not, it's still not "shabbat" which first appears in Exodus 16:23 - Then he said to them, “This is what the Lord has said: ‘Tomorrow is a Sabbath rest, a holy Sabbath to the Lord. Bake what you will bake today, and boil what you will boil; and lay up for yourselves all that remains, to be kept until morning.

Although God's rest on the seventh day (Genesis 2:3) did foreshadow a future Sabbath law, there is no Biblical record of the Sabbath being kept before the children of Israel left the land of Egypt and Sabbath keeping was a sign between God and the Israelites. (Exodus 31:16-17; Deuteronomy 5:16) Nowhere in Scripture is there any hint that Sabbath keeping was practiced from Adam to Moses.

Enjoy your weekend as well! This is my 3 day weekend. :)
 
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The law was fulfilled by Jesus and the law has been annulled as a mechanism of righteousness.

Our righteousness now is in the form of a gift, freely given to us by Jesus, His righteousness. An eternal righteousness.

We cannot be judged because we are the very righteousness of God Himself.

It is not what we can do, as the Jews tried to do through the law.

All the Sabbath does is grant you the knowledge of your sin, openly condemns your vain attempts to be a righteous person.

How wide of the mark you really are.
Hi Inquisitor,

I hope you doing well my friend? :)

You say Jesus annulled the law and I assume that it was done on the cross when He said "it is finished"? The interesting fact about that phrase is that for 1500 year before Jesus was crucified the Levites said it every day once they completed their tasks in the temple. You see if that phrase makes us believe that Jesus annulled the law, I think we are wrong because Jesus did whatever any other rabbi of the time would do once they were done with their tasks for the day. They said it is finished daily :) he was just done with His tasks here on earth and it was finished.
 
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Root of Sabbath or not, it's still not "shabbat" which first appears in Exodus 16:23 - Then he said to them, “This is what the Lord has said: ‘Tomorrow is a Sabbath rest, a holy Sabbath to the Lord. Bake what you will bake today, and boil what you will boil; and lay up for yourselves all that remains, to be kept until morning.

Although God's rest on the seventh day (Genesis 2:3) did foreshadow a future Sabbath law, there is no Biblical record of the Sabbath being kept before the children of Israel left the land of Egypt and Sabbath keeping was a sign between God and the Israelites. (Exodus 31:16-17; Deuteronomy 5:16) Nowhere in Scripture is there any hint that Sabbath keeping was practiced from Adam to Moses.

Enjoy your weekend as well! This is my 3 day weekend. :)
I would be very surprised if Abraham did not keep the Sabbath :)

The Hebrew language is different from English (or Afrikaans :p ) in that you have to go back to the root. The root of a word is basically where it all started but I am not a Hebrew scholar and only had a look because you asked the question. Interesting discussion.
 
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Root of Sabbath or not, it's still not "shabbat"
God said otherwise:

Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.​
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:​
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:​
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.​

God blessed nothing, neither hallowed anything in Exodus 20:1-17. It is only in Genesis 2:1-3, that God did so, and only then did God rest, in the 7th day. God specifcally calls that day, by his own voice and finger, "the sabbath day". The verb becomes the noun not becaue I said so, but because God said so.
 

mailmandan

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God said otherwise:

Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.​
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:​
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:​
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.​

God blessed nothing, neither hallowed anything in Exodus 20:1-17. It is only in Genesis 2:1-3, that God did so, and only then did God rest, in the 7th day. God specifcally calls that day, by his own voice and finger, "the sabbath day". The verb becomes the noun not becaue I said so, but because God said so.
Who was God addressing in Exodus 20? Verse 2 - I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. God made it clear that Sabbath observing was a sign between God and Israel: “The Israelites are to observe the Sabbath, celebrating it for the generations to come as a lasting covenant. It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever, for in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day he abstained from work and rested.” (Exodus 31:16-17)

In Deuteronomy 5, Moses restates the Ten Commandments to the next generation of Israelites. Here, after commanding Sabbath observance in verses 12–14, Moses gives the reason the Sabbath was given to the nation Israel: “Remember that you were slaves in Egypt and that the Lord your God brought you out of there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm. Therefore the Lord your God has commanded you to observe the Sabbath day.” (Deuteronomy 5:15)
 
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Although God's rest on the seventh day (Genesis 2:3) did foreshadow a future Sabbath law
Before sin of mankind? What need of shadows and types? All was "light", not shadow. It was only after Adan/Eve sinned, that shadows / types were put into place:

Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.​
Gen 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.​

You simply state 'you' in your statement, and there is no light in it then (Isa. 8:20).

Pro_6:23 For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life:​
 
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Jesus is the real Israel (Mat. 2:13-15,19-21; Hos. 11:10), the real Adam (1 Cor. 15:45), for whom the sabbath was made (Col 1:16; Mar 2:27), and thus all His true children (Heb 2:13; Isa. 8:8-20), in Him, will do as He does (Luk. 4:14-21), as He asks (Exo 20:6; Jhn. 14:15), and so his disciples do (Rev. 1:10; Isa. 58:13, etc).
 

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Jesus is the real Israel (Mat. 2:13-15,19-21; Hos. 11:10), the real Adam (1 Cor. 15:45), for whom the sabbath was made (Col 1:16; Mar 2:27), and thus all His true children (Heb 2:13; Isa. 8:8-20), in Him, will do as He does (Luk. 4:14-21), as He asks (Exo 20:6; Jhn. 14:15), and so his disciples do (Rev. 1:10; Isa. 58:13, etc).
You twist the scriptures in order to try and force them to "conform" to your biased SDA church doctrine, but I am not buying what you are selling. Seventh-day Adventists even teach the ludicrous doctrine that the near the end of time the "mark of the best" of Revelation 14 will be placed upon those who worship on Sunday instead of Saturday. You basically turn the Sabbath day into an idol.

https://nonsda.org/study8.shtml
 
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In Deuteronomy 5, Moses restates the Ten Commandments to the next generation of Israelites.
Who hath bewtiched you?, do you not yet know that which was exampled in them, is written for us, upon whom the end of the world has come?

A group (natural) in the past has the Ten Commandments reiterated to them by a messenger of the LORD just before going into the promised land, the earthly Canaan, and you are so "blind" (as cited already) that you cannot see the parallel and antitype to us (spiritual) at the end who were sent a messenger of the LORD to do the same before we enter the true promised land, the Heavenly Canaan?

1Co 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.​

As they were tested in Exodus 16, so we are tested (Revelation 3:10, 14:6-12, 17:12, etc). 1 Cor. 15:46.
 

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Who hath bewtiched you?, do you not yet know that which was exampled in them, is written for us, upon whom the end of the world has come?

A group (natural) in the past has the Ten Commandments reiterated to them by a messenger of the LORD just before going into the promised land, the earthly Canaan, and you are so "blind" (as cited already) that you cannot see the parallel and antitype to us (spiritual) at the end who were sent a messenger of the LORD to do the same before we enter the true promised land, the Heavenly Canaan?

1Co 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.​

As they were tested in Exodus 16, so we are tested (Revelation 3:10, 14:6-12, 17:12, etc). 1 Cor. 15:46.
It's you who remains bewitched. (Galatians 3:1-3) Hebrews 4:10 says the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His. Believers have entered in God’s rest through Jesus (in contrast with law keeping) as God ceased or rested from His works in the seventh day of Creation. God's ultimate, true rest did not come through Joshua or Moses, but through Jesus Christ. Joshua led Israel into the promised land, which was merely the earthly rest which was but a shadow of what was involved in the heavenly rest. The rest in Christ that God offers is spiritual and is superior to that which Joshua obtained. Israel's earthly rest was filled with conflict and attacks from their enemies and the daily cycle of work. The "sabbatismos" rest (Hebrews 4:9) enjoyed uninterruptedly by believers in their fellowship with the Father and the Son is in contrast with keeping the weekly Sabbath day under the Law.

Although for centuries the Jews had found their physical rest in a day, the New Covenant takes the focus off the shadows of the Old Testament signs and rituals and reveals their spiritual substance -- the fulfillment/reality—in the person of Jesus Christ. (Colossians 2:16-17) Christians find complete Sabbath "sabbatismos" rest in Christ's finished work on the cross. The New Testament Sabbath rest is entered into by ceasing from one’s "works" of trying to earn salvation though keeping the Law. Paul explains that the Jewish holy days, including the weekly Sabbath, were merely a “shadow” which pointed to Christ; therefore, Christians should not feel obligated to observe them once the “reality” has come. (Colossians 2.16-17) Because Jesus and the New Testament writers never reiterate the Sabbath command as they do the moral principles contained in the other 9 commandments, Christians are not obligated to observe a literal weekly Sabbath day.
 

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Yes.

I observe the Sabbath according to the standard of my Father in Heaven not according to the standard of the law.
Therefore, I remain at rest from my work and I walk in the works my Father prepared for me daily. My Father has been at rest from the 6th day so I, too, will remain at rest.

This is the language of the sons of God in the House of God. The carnal and immature cannot receive this.