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probably not in the way you mean . And no ' unconditional election ' and ' conditional election ' are both unbiblical.
One more time. Election is to service, calling and purpose, not to salvation. (Isa. 42:1; Acts 9:15; Rom. 11:28)
probably not in the way you mean . And no ' unconditional election ' and ' conditional election ' are both unbiblical.
One more time. Election is to service, calling and purpose, not to salvation. (Isa. 42:1; Acts 9:15; Rom. 11:28)
Let us go back a few steps... if God selects for salvation, meaning He selects those to whom He bequeaths saving faith, when He could save all, then by logic He condemns the rest to hell.
Actually there is. It helps us to remain secure in Christ knowing I was elected based on the cross and the grace of god to which I was saved by grace through faith
remove election and you remove one more point god gave us to help us in our security and seeing all suffering as a momentary light affliction b
Let us go back a few steps... if God selects for salvation, meaning He selects those to whom He bequeaths saving faith, when He could save all, then by logic He condemns the rest to hell.
I said I would agree if you added the word “arbitrarily” to the second part of the sentence. Which means I didn’t object to the first part. (The part you are saying I objected to )
Actually there is. It helps us to remain secure in Christ knowing I was elected based on the cross and the grace of god to which I was saved by grace through faith
remove election and you remove one more point god gave us to help us in our security and seeing all suffering as a momentary light affliction b
That doesn't even make sense . /// I was elected based on the cross and the grace of god to which I was saved by grace through faith/// So you were elected before you existed , before you sinned ,you were ' elected ' but based on Jesus death to which you were saved through faith ? could you clarify with scripture?
Let us go back a few steps... if God selects for salvation, meaning He selects those to whom He bequeaths saving faith, when He could save all, then by logic He condemns the rest to hell.
Depends on what the basis of election is. Foreseen faith?
God elects believers whom He foreknew and He condemns unbelievers to hell. Nothing arbitrary about that. Which is why I said I would agree with that sentence if you had added arbitrarily before the word condemn.
I said I would agree if you added the word “arbitrarily” to the second part of the sentence. Which means I didn’t object to the first part. (The part you are saying I objected to )
That doesn't even make sense . /// I was elected based on the cross and the grace of god to which I was saved by grace through faith/// So you were elected before you existed , before you sinned ,you were ' elected ' but based on Jesus death to which you were saved through faith ? could you clarify with scripture?