God, Romans 8:28, and Good and Evil

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Deade

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Thanks, so I hope you can see why I always find the statement "God made someone sick, allow someone to be sick, etc" to be problematic.

If sickness came thru sin, saying those statements is like saying "God made someone sin, allow someone to commit sin etc".
Exo. 4:21-26 And the LORD said to Moses, “When you go back to Egypt, see that you do before Pharaoh all the miracles that I have put in your power. But I will harden his heart, so that he will not let the people go.

Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the LORD, Israel is my firstborn son,
and I say to you, “Let my son go that he may serve me.” If you refuse to let him go, behold, I will kill your firstborn son.’”

At a lodging place on the way the LORD met him and sought to put him [ Moses] to death.

Then Zipporah took a flint and cut off her son's foreskin and touched Moses' feet with it and said, “Surely you are a bridegroom of blood to me!”

So he let him alone. It was then that she said, “A bridegroom of blood,” because of the circumcision.
 
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Exo. 4:21-26 And the LORD said to Moses, “When you go back to Egypt, see that you do before Pharaoh all the miracles that I have put in your power. But I will harden his heart, so that he will not let the people go.

Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the LORD, Israel is my firstborn son,
and I say to you, “Let my son go that he may serve me.” If you refuse to let him go, behold, I will kill your firstborn son.’”


At a lodging place on the way the LORD met him and sought to put him [ Moses] to death.

Then Zipporah took a flint and cut off her son's foreskin and touched Moses' feet with it and said, “Surely you are a bridegroom of blood to me!”

So he let him alone. It was then that she said, “A bridegroom of blood,” because of the circumcision.
Are we walking in the flesh (Adamic nature), or in the spirit (nature of Christ)? Are we under law or under grace of Jesus Christ? When we think according to worldly or religious standards, we are functioning in our own will and in our own understanding. When we think according to the will of God, we will function in His will, and we will know His truth on a matter.

First of all, we have to remember that God’s no longer dealing with us according to our sinful nature, because He has already dealt with sin at the Cross. Man's carnal nature, His natural mind that tempts him to think like the world (including the religious world) is the problem. But God has dealt with that problem too, for in Christ we are a new man created by God! We have to surrender our natural mind, even the religious mindset, and put on the mind of Christ.

"For this reason I say to you, do not be worried about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink; nor for your body, as to what you will put on. Is not life more than food? and the body more than clothing? Look at the birds of the air, they do not sow, nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not worth much more than they? And who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life? And why are you worried about clothing? Observe how the lilies of the field grow; they do not toil nor do they spin; do not worry then, saying, `What will we eat?' or `What will we drink?' or `What will we wear for clothing?' Do not worry about tomorrow; for tomorrow will take care of itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." [Matthew 6:25-28] We read in these verses how our natural thoughts, our worries tell us what we think we need and cause us to think in our old nature, to think like the world thinks or unfortunately, like many in the church think.

Jesus is telling us that we don’t have to be anxious about these things. We can instead have the thoughts which are in Him. "You will keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on You, because he trusts in You.” [Isaiah. 26:3] If our mind is always resting in Jesus, our peace can’t be disturbed. When our thoughts line up with Christ’s thoughts, we will only listen to His voice and all other religious and worldly voices are silenced. We will know Jesus Himself is the answer to every need.

We can’t find truth by reading scriptures without the Holy Spirit revealing Himself to us. We don’t discover the nature of Jesus by any effort on our own, including quoting the Bible. He has to call us to Him and give us His thoughts and the desire to seek Him. The Lord reveals Himself to us spiritually, not intellectually. Jesus is the Revelation.

When we abandon our own mind to God, putting our thoughts into subjection to Him, Jesus Christ will speak to us and we will clearly hear Him. We can’t know the Lord Jesus with our carnal mind. The flesh will never receive Him or understand Him. We have to bow down our own thoughts to Him so we can hear Him, so we can rest in His Presence and receive His understanding. As we learn to walk in this realm of abandoning our own mind to God’s understanding, He brings us into a deeper and higher level of knowing Him.

The Lord God places us into His light that the carnal part of us loses its effect, that our old man has no more power over us. The grace of Jesus Christ rules over our carnal mind - Jesus is our only need. That is how we overcome the world, the world in our flesh. We have to let go of our own works, our own thoughts, and worldly & religious mental attitudes. We have to rest in Jesus Christ alone.

Jesus said, the god of this world "has nothing in Me." That’s the thought system of this world, which began in Genesis 3: the carnal thinking of the Adamic nature. Only with the mind of Jesus Christ can we overcome that worldly thinking. He is our rest.