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Thunderrr-mental

Thunderrr-mental

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A word in your hearts,

The life the way the truth,

The life that was in Adam was God's life.

Adam was made spiritualy alive before the fall which means he was saved, after there fall all mankind became spiritual alive to the power of death.

Why, well the life that was in Adam before the fall, and after the fall was God's, and it's the same life that exists in all man because all man has fell,

Why


Jesus said the natural body never changes. in scripture this can be shown, and he said and it sown perishable but he also said where there is a natural body there is a spiritual body.

Which means man is not born spiritual dead to God but spiritual alive to the power of death


Well God Holds the power of life and death in his spirit, but the difference is he's God and his spirit can't die.

But he told man you can die,

This is because you don't hold the power of death or life God does, this is because you can't over come the knowledge of evil God can.

Man was saved before the fall and spiritualy alive and God chose to save man after the fall.

The difference being to be saved in Jesus so that ye don't fall again.

But the spirit is the same life that was saved in Adam before the fall, it's the same life Gods life, it's just been reborn in Jesus and made spiritual alive again by Jesus Jesus overcoming the power of death that now lives in all man.

This is the way the life and the truth


For truth will lead man to the divine and to surrender to God's will

Un conditional election is for the believer to because God's life still exists in the unbeliever to.

The unbeliever must be unconditional in surrendering to God's will.
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
A word in your hearts,

The life the way the truth,

The life that was in Adam was God's life.

Adam was made spiritualy alive before the fall which means he was saved, after there fall all mankind became spiritual alive to the power of death.

Why, well the life that was in Adam before the fall, and after the fall was God's, and it's the same life that exists in all man because all man has fell,

Why


Jesus said the natural body never changes. in scripture this can be shown, and he said and it sown perishable but he also said where there is a natural body there is a spiritual body.

Which means man is not born spiritual dead to God but spiritual alive to the power of death


Well God Holds the power of life and death in his spirit, but the difference is he's God and his spirit can't die.

But he told man you can die,

This is because you don't hold the power of death or life God does, this is because you can't over come the knowledge of evil God can.

Man was saved before the fall and spiritualy alive and God chose to save man after the fall.

The difference being to be saved in Jesus so that ye don't fall again.

But the spirit is the same life that was saved in Adam before the fall, it's the same life Gods life, it's just been reborn in Jesus and made spiritual alive again by Jesus Jesus overcoming the power of death that now lives in all man.

This is the way the life and the truth


For truth will lead man to the divine and to surrender to God's will

Un conditional election is for the believer to because God's life still exists in the unbeliever to.

The unbeliever must be unconditional in surrendering to God's will.
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Not true. God breathed the breath of life into man, but Adam's life was natural. That is why the tree of Life, which is God's life, was made available to Adam.

If Adam had received the life of God, he could not have sinned and he could not have died.
 
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When created and living in the Garden, neither Adam nor Eve were "saved." There was no reason for them to be, They were created "innocent of sin." They had no knowledge of sin, right or wrong,

When the serpent tempted Eve and she Adam to disobey God, this is when they became of sin, right and wrong, This is when sin entered into the world.

Were they saved after being expelled from the Garden? Good question. Here is a statement I found, and accept as what occurred:

One thing remained consistent throughout Adam and Eve’s time away from the Garden – God is always with them. At no time did God abandon them. In spite of what they had done, God continued to provide all that they needed – shelter, safety, food (once they are ready to eat it), a place to work, and eventually children to bless their lives.
LIFE AFTER THE GARDEN - Hayshire UCC


 
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Was Adam and eves spirit spiritualy alive to the power of life in the garden before the fall
 
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Rephrase 🙂

Was Adams and eves !!life!! Spiritualy alive to the power of life before the fall.


adam and eve, someone you loved 🙂

 
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posthuman said:
where did He say that?

did Adam's body decay before he sinned?
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The understanding is within the full scripture of this scripture see if you can slot it 🙂

Heres the hint to direct you to the known scripture but this is only part .

Jesus said the natural body never changes. in scripture this can be shown, and he said and it sown perishable but he also said where there is a natural body there is a spiritual body.
 
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Heres the Question

Was Adams and eves !!life!! !!Gods life!! Spiritualy alive to the power of life before the fall.


adam and eve, someone you loved 🙂
 
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The Olympic flame has just been lit for the upcoming Olympics in one hundred days 🙂

 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
Was Adam and eves spirit spiritualy alive to the power of life in the garden before the fall
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Adam and Eve had a spirit, which is the part of man made in the image of God. The spirit of man is not the Spirit of God. God warned Adam and Eve that death would be the consequence of eating from the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil. And indeed they died, but not physically. They still had an active soul - they could think, feel and choose. It was their spirit that died. Death is not the end of existence. It is separation from God, as evidenced by the fact that they attempted to hide from God.

It is the spirit of man that is born again. Our bodies do not change. Our soul must be delivered, something that happens progressively. When we are born again, we become instantly alive to God.
 
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Gideon300 said:
Adam and Eve had a spirit, which is the part of man made in the image of God. The spirit of man is not the Spirit of God. God warned Adam and Eve that death would be the consequence of eating from the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil. And indeed they died, but not physically. They still had an active soul - they could think, feel and choose. It was their spirit that died. Death is not the end of existence. It is separation from God, as evidenced by the fact that they attempted to hide from God.

It is the spirit of man that is born again. Our bodies do not change. Our soul must be delivered, something that happens progressively. When we are born again, we become instantly alive to God.
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according to scripture God said let us make man in our image.

Then God made man.

Then after God made man he breathed life into the man this came after he made man

Understand this without his life if you you wouldn't even be alive.

This is the first thing.

The second thing what life did he breath in to man.

Was it mans life he breathed into man or his life
 
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This is a beautiful post. I feel that when you give your life to God, the Holy Spirit takes up residence in your soul. I have had so many circumstances in my life where I can say it was the Lord looking out for me and covering me.
 
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Penny said:
This is a beautiful post. I feel that when you give your life to God, the Holy Spirit takes up residence in your soul. I have had so many circumstances in my life where I can say it was the Lord looking out for me and covering me.
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🙂 there is there something else within God's life that is unique to you, when ye where in your mother's mother's womb he knitted together your imagination 🙂

So ye are correct the life which is God's life that is in you is a life he gave to you, and it's also your life to 🙂

Nice post thankyou
 
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Thank you. I have faced many tribulations and abuse for my Christian faith. I'm glad to find a community of believers.
 
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Welcome to cc penny, its nice to share your faith I believe in sharing faith and beliefs, it's always nicer to share your faith with friends to 🙂

My beliefs and faith is from waiting on the lord to renew me each and everyday, and I do like to share,

I don't like labels or being labelled, I really only like to share, truly.

But lately ive stumbled upon some very important key understandings in scripture that seems to have been lost amongst many people, I'm also at this moment in time wanting to learn About this tulip doctrine I discovered two weeks ago, that quite alot of people are holding to here, but so far the people who hold to it seem to be all cagey, when i ask them stuff.

So I'm hoping they'll see why it is they need to question there understanding with the lord


But I just seem to be getting hit with many blows.
 
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Predestination through out the forum is being preached thorough out the forum penny on the bases God decide who to save before the fall of man.


Which had me at odd ends really

It makes no sense, so ive been showing in many places how this isn't possible, but so far I've been hit with stiff resistance.

Common sense would tell me alone why is there need to decide who to save when there already saved before the fall.

As if all men are fallen because of the fall of Adam then that means all men must have been saved before the fall.

But I'm being told God decided to save before the fall.

It's disturbed me.
 
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Hmmm....yes. I like to learn about other religions and view points.
 
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I don't know about predestination. I think if someone places their trust in Jesus and lives out His teachings they will be saved.
 
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