Im new here. I need some help regarding 1 Corinth 11:14

[Magenta]

I would not recommend this. It simply is not true and is an idea that I’m sure the devil approves. 1 Corinthians 7:19 “KEEPING THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD IS WHAT MATTERS.” Satan does not want you to do what God says. Jesus said, “If you love me, keep my commandments.” And again, “ You are my friends if you do what I say.” John 14:15 and 15:14. Paul says in chapter 7 of this book that the things he has taught are the COMMANDMENTS OF GOD. NO WHERE in God’s Book does He ever say that He only cares about your heart and NOT what you do. This is bad advice. Beware.

Galatians 5:14, Ecclesiastes 12:13, Romans 13:10b The entire law is fulfilled in a single decree: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” When all has been heard, the conclusion of the matter is this: Fear God and keep His commandments, because this is the whole duty of man. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

 

[Dino246]

There is evidence that Paul's words in 1 Corinthians 11 are based on the erroneous anatomical beliefs of the day. It was believed that a woman's hair had a role in her physical sexual processes. "Does not nature itself teach you..." would therefore be 1st-century misunderstanding of "nature" and essentially a local/cultural issue rather than an enduring ecclesial matter.

Credit to the late Dr. Michael Heiser for this information.

 

[Cameron143]

There is evidence that Paul's words in 1 Corinthians 11 are based on the erroneous anatomical beliefs of the day. It was believed that a woman's hair had a role in her physical sexual processes. "Does not nature itself teach you..." would therefore be 1st-century misunderstanding of "nature" and essentially a local/cultural issue rather than an enduring ecclesial matter.

Credit to the late Dr. Michael Heiser for this information.

God is the author of scripture. The Holy Spirit wasn't misunderstanding anything.

 

[JesusIsSovereign]

1 Corinthians, Chapter 11:
14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
As well, Paul was giving his opinion and not a Commandment from God. This particular Scripture reveals one of Paul's misspeaks.

Do you believe Paul was divinely inspired? Everything that Paul wrote that is in the Bible is part of God's true, infallible (no misspeaks/mistakes, impossible to make mistakes), inerrant (no errors or incorrect statements). Do you believe this? And if so, then this cannot be a misspeak. I'll wait to hear your response to continue.

 

[JesusIsSovereign]

God is the author of scripture. The Holy Spirit wasn't misunderstanding anything.

Amen, that's right. Paul was completely inspired by the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit made no mistakes or misspeaks as someone else claimed.

 

[JesusIsSovereign]

Ok...so im an 18 year old male. I converted to Christ two years ago so am still quite new to all this. So I don't know much in terms of general theological knowledge. With that being said, I need some help.

Ive always had super short hair, but my Girlfriend said I should grow it out, so I have been. It's currently at my shoulderblades, and I was going to go to mid back. I must admit my GF was right, I look the best I ever have. But then I read 1 Corinth 11:14. Where Paul says it's against God for a man to have long hair??? I know it's a sin for a man to look feminine, but I certainly don't. And long hair has nothing to do with that. So I'm confused.

Ive done research and I've found that nobody really knows. Some scholars say that it's fine and others say it's sinful. I don't have a pastor I can ask as I don't go to church yet (my parents are atheists) so I'm kinda stuck and just need help. Please. Someone!

Do not believe people who claim that Paul made a so called, "misspeak". As a Christian, a believer in Christ Jesus, you do not believe God made any mistakes, and also that Paul was completely inspired by the Holy Spirit, in which, cannot "misspeak".

 

[Dino246]

God is the author of scripture. The Holy Spirit wasn't misunderstanding anything.

Nice thought, but try reading the evidence instead of quickly dismissing it.

 

[Dino246]

Do not believe people who claim that Paul made a so called, "misspeak". As a Christian, a believer in Christ Jesus, you do not believe God made any mistakes, and also that Paul was completely inspired by the Holy Spirit, in which, cannot "misspeak".

In Whom, not in which.

God did not download extensive and accurate scientific knowledge centuries before it was discovered. God used the people where and when they were.

 

[Cameron143]

Nice thought, but try reading the evidence instead of quickly dismissing it.

Rather than give us homework, can you summarize his arguments and relevant scriptures?

 

[Publican]

Ok...so im an 18 year old male. I converted to Christ two years ago so am still quite new to all this. So I don't know much in terms of general theological knowledge. With that being said, I need some help.

Ive always had super short hair, but my Girlfriend said I should grow it out, so I have been. It's currently at my shoulderblades, and I was going to go to mid back. I must admit my GF was right, I look the best I ever have. But then I read 1 Corinth 11:14. Where Paul says it's against God for a man to have long hair??? I know it's a sin for a man to look feminine, but I certainly don't. And long hair has nothing to do with that. So I'm confused.

Ive done research and I've found that nobody really knows. Some scholars say that it's fine and others say it's sinful. I don't have a pastor I can ask as I don't go to church yet (my parents are atheists) so I'm kinda stuck and just need help. Please. Someone!

You have more pressing issues before you young man than the length of your hair. You signed up for an ancient war. Your enemies never sleep. Fast. Pray. Study to show yourself approved. Make your calling and election sure. And rejoice always in the salvation of your soul from death and hell.

 

[Publican]

Back around 1997, when I was inexperienced with forums, a guy on Lycos
took me under his wing and warned me that Bible forums are the armpit of
the internet; mostly because too many folks sincerely believe themselves
infallible and speaking for God ex cathedra. In other words: this is one of
the worst places ever for a newbie to be seeking spiritual counseling.
_

He wasn't lying.

 

[JesusIsSovereign]

In Whom, not in which.

God did not download extensive and accurate scientific knowledge centuries before it was discovered. God used the people where and when they were.

Are you telling me you don't believe in the inerrant infallibility of God's Word? Do you believe that Paul was divinely inspired? You shall base all your claims on God's Word in which has all authority in all circumstances. Do you believe we as humans are better than God and that we shall lean on our own understanding of things as well? If so, you're wrong as it says in Proverbs 3:5-6 that you shall not lean on your own understand, but rather trust in God with all your heart no matter what, even if it seems ridiculous something that is in God's completely trustworthy Word.

 

[JesusIsSovereign]

In Whom, not in which.

God did not download extensive and accurate scientific knowledge centuries before it was discovered. God used the people where and when they were.

If you can't base any claim on the Word of God and that whether or not it's trustworthy, it cannot be trusted. (Ironic isn't it?)

 

[TabinRivCA]

Galatians 5:14, Ecclesiastes 12:13, Romans 13:10b The entire law is fulfilled in a single decree: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” When all has been heard, the conclusion of the matter is this: Fear God and keep His commandments, because this is the whole duty of man. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

I certainly wouldn't call him a sissy😂✝🔯

 

[Dino246]

Rather than give us homework, can you summarize his arguments and relevant scriptures?

Um… I did already. 🤔

 

[Dino246]

If you can't base any claim on the Word of God and that whether or not it's trustworthy, it cannot be trusted. (Ironic isn't it?)

Once again, but with a complete, coherent sentence this time?

 

[JesusIsSovereign]

Once again, but with a complete, coherent sentence this time?

Ah, so you have to point my grammatical errors instead of actually trying to prove that the Bible isn't the completely inspired, trustworthy Word of God don't you? Is that what's at the upmost important to you? Maybe you should try on this question I asked someone else, "Do you believe Paul was divinely inspired? Everything that Paul wrote that is in the Bible is part of God's true, infallible (no misspeaks/mistakes, impossible to make mistakes), inerrant (no errors or incorrect statements). Do you believe this? And if so, then this cannot be a misspeak.". We shouldn't be angry at each other; we should be instead exalting and praising God's true, infallible, inerrant Word. But instead we are here having an argument on whether the Bible is truly God's Word or not? If don't believe some of the Bible isn't actually God's inspired Word, you might as well choose not to believe the Bible at all. We shouldn't be insulting each other rather instead consulting the real, incorrect views on the Bible, right? That's what I'm doing now, arguing that the whole of scripture is the completely, inspired, inerrant, infallible Word of God in which is completely true. But it seems as if you find it more important (and possibly amusing) to point out my grammar mistakes rather than at least try to argue your claim to be true. I love you in Christ and I will be praying that God will guide you into all the truth of who He is and that the whole Bible is directly from God through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit! I will be praying also that God will help you and give you peace and satisfaction no matter the circumstance! Praise the Lord for you for He, by His sovereignty, brought us together for the good of those whom He predestined to be saved before that ages began, and ultimately for His glory! (Psalm 119:116, Proverbs 3:5-6, Proverbs 30:5, John 16:13, John 17:17, Romans 8:6, Romans 8:18, Romans 8:28-30, Colossians 3:2, 2 Timothy 1:9, 2 Timothy 3:16-17, Hebrews 4:12, James 1:5, James 1:7. Romans 8 is an overall good chapter to read.)
In Christ
Love Christian

 

[Dino246]

Are you telling me you don't believe in the inerrant infallibility of God's Word? Do you believe that Paul was divinely inspired? You shall base all your claims on God's Word in which has all authority in all circumstances. Do you believe we as humans are better than God and that we shall lean on our own understanding of things as well? If so, you're wrong as it says in Proverbs 3:5-6 that you shall not lean on your own understand, but rather trust in God with all your heart no matter what, even if it seems ridiculous something that is in God's completely trustworthy Word.

I wrote exactly what I intended to write, and implied nothing else.

 

[JesusIsSovereign]

I wrote exactly what I intended to write, and implied nothing else.

Well then I'm asking you, do you believe the Holy Spirit can misspeak? You may not realize it but if you earlier were arguing that Paul misspoke, you're claiming that God misspoke.

 

[Dino246]

Ah, so you have to point my grammatical errors

You want to argue about the infallibility of God's word, but can't refer to the Holy Spirit correctly? You choose your hills, I'll choose mine.

instead of actually trying to prove that the Bible isn't the completely inspired, trustworthy Word of God don't you?

I have no need to prove what I have not claimed.

Is that what's at the upmost important to you?

Do you really think that a single comment represents what is of utmost importance to me? Try again.

Maybe you should try on this question I asked someone else, "Do you believe Paul was divinely inspired?

Yes.

Everything that Paul wrote that is in the Bible is part of God's true, infallible (no misspeaks/mistakes, impossible to make mistakes), inerrant (no errors or incorrect statements). Do you believe this?

Not with all the implications you have in that statement, no.

And if so, then this cannot be a misspeak.". We shouldn't be angry at each other; we should be instead exalting and praising God's true, infallible, inerrant Word.

I exalt and praise God Himself, and I thank Him for His word. I feel no anger towards you. If you feel anger towards me, that's not a "me" problem.

But instead we are here having an argument on whether the Bible is truly God's Word or not?

You're having that argument; I am not.

If don't believe some of the Bible isn't actually God's inspired Word, you might as well choose not to believe the Bible at all.

Thanks for your opinion.