-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
this makes me laugh 
you are confusing "individuals who reject a belief" with "the actual truth of the belief"
Lets say God is real, then people who reject His existence would be in denial .... however they would still be athiests.
So no matter whether or not God exist, the fact that there are people who reject the belief in a God is undoubtedly true.
you are confusing "individuals who reject a belief" with "the actual truth of the belief"
Lets say God is real, then people who reject His existence would be in denial .... however they would still be athiests.
So no matter whether or not God exist, the fact that there are people who reject the belief in a God is undoubtedly true.
Demonstrate!! What ARE you talking about? If I am out shopping, that is all the proof I need that I am not at home. Nothing to demonstrate.
As for concluding that God having that attribute cannot exist is utter hogwash and straight from the blarney stone. When are you atheists going to learn that God is infinite, not finite and he does not have a finite mind and to try and level him to your finite way of thinking is to say the least pathetic and shows that you are living in a one dimensional world that sadly lacks anything of consequence.
As for concluding that God having that attribute cannot exist is utter hogwash and straight from the blarney stone. When are you atheists going to learn that God is infinite, not finite and he does not have a finite mind and to try and level him to your finite way of thinking is to say the least pathetic and shows that you are living in a one dimensional world that sadly lacks anything of consequence.
A
I will be the first to admit that genetics does play a role in a person's propensity for fearfulness or fearlessness as does nurture (e.g. how they are raised) and other factors such as conscience (whether they feel guilty or not for example); however, the experience itself is the agent.
In other words, a person may or may not have a fear of death and when the time approaches become afraid or face it bravely regardless of whether they are an atheist or not BUT (and this is a really big but): what happens as they die trumps all of this.
A brave atheist can find coming face to face with damnation causes them to lose all that courage as they begin to die physically and enter a dimension of judgment.
[video=youtube_share;FeuguDgC6tQ]http://youtu.be/FeuguDgC6tQ[/video]
In other words, a person may or may not have a fear of death and when the time approaches become afraid or face it bravely regardless of whether they are an atheist or not BUT (and this is a really big but): what happens as they die trumps all of this.
A brave atheist can find coming face to face with damnation causes them to lose all that courage as they begin to die physically and enter a dimension of judgment.
[video=youtube_share;FeuguDgC6tQ]http://youtu.be/FeuguDgC6tQ[/video]
That's a vague generalization that implies unanimity among the experts for a late date.
Not all "biblical scholars" would agree with statement.
Over the weekend, I saw an expert quoted to say that the Apostle John died around the year 100 AD.
The Book of Revelation is a unique Book and widely accepted as being written by the Apostle John.
Revelation bears internal witness that John was the author.
I John, who also am your brother and companion in tribulation and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos for the Word of God and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. (Revelation 1:9)
Christian people suffered tribulation and persecution in the first century. They knew whereof they believed.
Not all "biblical scholars" would agree with statement.
Over the weekend, I saw an expert quoted to say that the Apostle John died around the year 100 AD.
The Book of Revelation is a unique Book and widely accepted as being written by the Apostle John.
Revelation bears internal witness that John was the author.
I John, who also am your brother and companion in tribulation and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos for the Word of God and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. (Revelation 1:9)
Christian people suffered tribulation and persecution in the first century. They knew whereof they believed.
A
Though John's authorship is not explicitly stated anywhere in the Gospel of John, the text itself points to his authorship.
The latest possible date for the writing of John's Gospel is between A.D. 110 and 120 because there is an early papyrus fragment of John (P52) dated to this period. Another papyrus fragment of an unknown Gospel known as Egerton Papyrus 2, which was largely based on John's Gospel, is dated around A.D. 130-150.
These copies give evidence of the existence of John's Gospel in at least the beginning of the second century, if not earlier. The earliest possible date for Johns Gospel is probably the late A.D. 60s. Most biblical archeologists assign a date of A.D. 80 to A.D. 90 because of John 21:23, which probably was penned while was near the end of his life.
And, it's important to note that there are more extant early manuscripts for the Gospel of John than for any other book of the New Testament.
I can name fourteen manuscripts dating from the second and third centuries. Their accuracy is confirmed by manuscripts from the fourth and fifth centuries.
The latest possible date for the writing of John's Gospel is between A.D. 110 and 120 because there is an early papyrus fragment of John (P52) dated to this period. Another papyrus fragment of an unknown Gospel known as Egerton Papyrus 2, which was largely based on John's Gospel, is dated around A.D. 130-150.
These copies give evidence of the existence of John's Gospel in at least the beginning of the second century, if not earlier. The earliest possible date for Johns Gospel is probably the late A.D. 60s. Most biblical archeologists assign a date of A.D. 80 to A.D. 90 because of John 21:23, which probably was penned while was near the end of his life.
And, it's important to note that there are more extant early manuscripts for the Gospel of John than for any other book of the New Testament.
I can name fourteen manuscripts dating from the second and third centuries. Their accuracy is confirmed by manuscripts from the fourth and fifth centuries.
I do understand how someone that examines the two possibilities (Evolution and Creation) can find it just as difficult to believe that God has always existed created the universe as it is to believe that it just happened on its own. Both seem impossible, but we are here so it happened. I have decided to believe that it was God that created everything and that He loves every one of us. I cannot do anything to make you change your mind. We both know that. That is between you and God whether you believe in Him or not.
There is a helpful web page here that analyzes count and date information for relevant ancient manuscript copies: Manuscript evidence for superior New Testament reliability
The New Testament was being translated and communicated early. There are also many thousands of ancient manuscripts in the Syriac, Latin, Coptic, and Aramaic languages.
Compare the information for ancient writers like Homer, Plato, Aristotle, Caesar and Livy to the New Testament. The New Testament manuscripts provide a superior record for reliability.
The New Testament was being translated and communicated early. There are also many thousands of ancient manuscripts in the Syriac, Latin, Coptic, and Aramaic languages.
Compare the information for ancient writers like Homer, Plato, Aristotle, Caesar and Livy to the New Testament. The New Testament manuscripts provide a superior record for reliability.
Is God Love in the purest form? And what is the greatest, Charity, Love and God?
[h=3]1 Corinthians 13:13[/h]New International Version (NIV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
Maybe not in you opinion does God (love) go on forever, but it does and Love is God
[h=3]1 Corinthians 13:13[/h]New International Version (NIV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
Maybe not in you opinion does God (love) go on forever, but it does and Love is God
Jude 1:21 keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
2 Corinthians 13:11 Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.
Ephesians 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
2 Corinthians 13:11 Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.
Ephesians 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
this is why
Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
And it does take a lot of hard work to seek out this truth to come to rest in, most do not go the distance as in running a foot race. I plainly see you have just puttered out, personally I did not and have been through the quisenart, strung through it. And I plain ans simply have stood the Faith as Job did in the book of Job
Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
And it does take a lot of hard work to seek out this truth to come to rest in, most do not go the distance as in running a foot race. I plainly see you have just puttered out, personally I did not and have been through the quisenart, strung through it. And I plain ans simply have stood the Faith as Job did in the book of Job
So no God, no life after death and 100% of us die and so far no escaping that, but all hope to right?
Who wants to die, does anyone? Yet through death one sees life, what is up with that?
Of all the evidence presented over the Centuries, what sticks out on top?
If there is nothing after death, why are we all here?
Who wants to die, does anyone? Yet through death one sees life, what is up with that?
Of all the evidence presented over the Centuries, what sticks out on top?
If there is nothing after death, why are we all here?
Faith in AFARM seems like an unacceptable fantasy to me...accidental evolutionary advancement from
amoeba to fish to amphibian to reptile to mammal (AFARM).
Books have authors. Buildings have architects. Motor vehicles have engineers. Software has developers. Does the universe really have no one? I think not.
amoeba to fish to amphibian to reptile to mammal (AFARM).
Books have authors. Buildings have architects. Motor vehicles have engineers. Software has developers. Does the universe really have no one? I think not.