Jesus did not say follow preachers, He said follow Me.

[Guojing]

It seems to me that keeping the law has to do with our obedience, not with a demonstration of our faith. Law-keeping involves a covenant of works, so Israel was demonstrating that they were "obedient" to God .. or not (not whether they had faith in God, or not), and that they were therefore worthy of receiving the blessings and the benefits that come along with keeping the Law, or the curses and the penalties that came from breaking it.

~Deut
p.s. - I get the sense sometimes that the two of us believe the same thing, but that each of us may approach a topic like this one from two different perspectives. So, if you ever feel that I am not understanding your meaning, I would appreciate you telling me what it actually is!

Thanks

Romans 11​

6 If it is by grace, then it is no longer on the basis of works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.​

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Yes, discussing in forums is sometimes like that, both parties saying the same thing but from different perspectives.

So my point is, before Jesus raised Paul to reach us with the gospel of grace, Jews show faith by following what God command them to do, which is works, thru obeying the Law.

Now, after Paul, we also show faith by also following God's command us to do, which is Romans 4:5

But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

We cease from all works of the Law, and believe in Christ's finished work on the cross. That is how we are declared righteous now.

This option was not avaliable to Israel during the period of the 4 Gospels.

 

[Prycejosh1987]

So many are told that Paul's writings are laws but they are not laws. They are there to help us
if we need help. To give us examples and hope and encouragement and help who needs it but
how in the world did laws overtake; my friends that is false teaching. Every time verses get
peppered on to the screen, is like those verse are the authority. Well they are not and maybe
you should start telling your pastors that. We are on this earth to follow God and God is our
only. ( period)

We should always invest in the spiritual authority in churches. They are assigned to help and equip the less mature people on their spiritual journey.

 

[jaybo]

We should always invest in the spiritual authority in churches. They are assigned to help and equip the less mature people on their spiritual journey.

But that authority isn't limited to churches. Jesus commissioned individuals; the authority of (corporate) churches is Old Testament; there was a separate priesthood then but it has been done away with.

 

[peldom10]

We should always invest in the spiritual authority in churches. They are assigned to help and equip the less mature people on their spiritual journey.

Are you sure that is good guidance;
Andy Stanley recently said....we do not have to follow God's ...commandments..should we follow that?
The baptist says we do not need baptism...should we follow that?
There are four or five denominations which teach ...hyper grace...(the old calvinism position)..should we follow that.

The Bible says...in the end times there will be .....great delusions...(not delusions...GREAT delusions)..shouldn't we be aware and stay away from them?

The Methodist's are planning a convention this year to vote on homosexuality in the ministers...it will be passed. Should we follow that?
The church of England is currently prosecuting a bishop for failure to perform same sex marriages...per approved church mandate...should the members accept that or ....'come out of her'.........?

Many others...but you get the point.

I submit ...the opposite is our challenge. A Christian should not follow any teaching unless it conforms with God's word.

We must remember that denominations is not from God...they are man made...thus man directed...thus man regulated of standards, etc...not biblical.