King James authorized bible vs the rest of other bibles

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KJV1611 said:
The explanation in the website is pretty lame. :)
Answer the questions below and you will see why two different ages were given.

2Ki 8:24 And Joram slept with his fathers, and was buried with his fathers in the city of David: and Ahaziah his son reigned in his stead.
2Ki 8:25 In the twelfth year of Joram the son of Ahab king of Israel did Ahaziah the son of Jehoram king of Judah begin to reign.


Who is Ahaziah's father in verse 24?
Who is Ahaziah's father in verse 25?
Can 2 different fathers father the same child?
How many Ahaziah's were there in Kings and Chronicles?
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The Bible alters the spellings of peoples names many many times in the Bible but yet we know it is speaking of that person based on the context or by comparing Scripture with Scripture.

Jehoram just has an "eh" added to Joram. It's the same person. This is not uncommon to see in the Bible. Abram became Abraham. Noah is referred to as Noe in the New Testament. Elijah is referred to as Elias. Isaiah is referred to as Esaias.
 
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The point is that there is an explanation whether one thinks one explanation is lame or not. Atheists and Agnostics think God's word is lame because they really don't care to look deeper. I would say that a believer is not perfect when it comes to learning God's Word. They need to study to show themselves approved unto God In other words, we should not be so quick to jump to conclusions without exhausting every possibility with Scripture.
 
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Jason0047 said:
The point is that there is an explanation whether one thinks one explanation is lame or not. Atheists and Agnostics think God's word is lame because they really don't care to look deeper. I would say that a believer is not perfect when it comes to learning God's Word. They need to study to show themselves approved unto God In other words, we should not be so quick to jump to conclusions without exhausting every possibility with Scripture.
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Also, Jeremiah 33:3 is a good thing to do, as well.
 
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Jason0047 said:
The Bible alters the spellings of peoples names many many times in the Bible but yet we know it is speaking of that person based on the context or by comparing Scripture with Scripture.

Jehoram just has an "eh" added to Joram. It's the same person. This is not uncommon to see in the Bible. Abram became Abraham. Noah is referred to as Noe in the New Testament. Elijah is referred to as Elias. Isaiah is referred to as Esaias.
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If Jehoram and Joram are the same person then why do they have different fathers?
Joram is the son of Ahab.
Jehoram is the son of Jehoshaphat.

2Ki 8:16 And in the fifth year of Joram the son of Ahab king of Israel, Jehoshaphat being then king of Judah, Jehoram the son of Jehoshaphat king of Judah began to reign.
 
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jag1977 said:
Hey you have to get down to the pure word of God. GOD's word is pure....that is the final authority... The complexities of the word are slightly more advanced than " the dog jumped over the fence".
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God's Word says he gives understanding to the simple. Your not being simple but complicated and striving to invent something that is not there in order defend a false truth. Yes, there is no doubt that God's Word has depth of understanding. But there is also a main basic meaning to a written text. Sure, can the phrase " the dog jumped over the fence" be used as a code phrase by a certain group of people? I am sure it can be. But if the context of a written work supports the saying, "the dog jumped over the fence", then there really is no wiggle room for debate.

But here is the thing. You don't really believe in pure Word of God, though. You might say you do, but you really can't believe in a pure Word because you really have no way of knowing which Word is which or what the Word is saying with 100% pinpoint accuracy.

What do I mean?

If I spoke or wrote Greek to you personally, you really would have no idea what I was saying unless you had that magical decipher code key to figure out what was being communicated. But there are two problems with this though. One, you would only being confused if you heard or seen Greek without this code key. Two, there is no way to verify or prove that this code key is from God. What is this code key? Well there are two major code keys and both these code keys were not inspired men who were without error when translating the Greek to English. For you have to place YOUR FAITH in their interpretation just to gain understanding.

In other words, it's like this mystery that needs to be unraveled. But God is simple. He has already provided His Word for you to study with the understanding already.
 
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Re: The Authorized Geneva Bible vs that Modernist KJV, unauthorized!

Jason0047 said:
The 1611 was perfect for it's time. Many knew that the Apocrypha was not a part of the Word of God

So for it's TIME, the 1611 was perfect within the confines of the type of world that they lived in.

I believe the 1769 is what the 1611 was intended to be

I believe that a translation that existed in the Latin language was perfect up until that point. .
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Now you are getting really confusing.

At least the KJV ONLY cultists don't vacillate.

The Apocrypha was in the KJV for 274 years, until 1885. Your KJV of 1765 still had the Apocrypha in it. If many knew the Apocrypha was not the Word of God, then they knew the KJV was not perfect. Right?

And now you say the Latin Vulgate was perfect until the KJV, but it is no longer perfect? The Vulgate didn't really change. What caused it to go from perfect to imperfect? Merely the existence of the KJV?
 
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KJV1611 said:
If Jehoram and Joram are the same person then why do they have different fathers?
Joram is the son of Ahab.
Jehoram is the son of Jehoshaphat.

2Ki 8:16 And in the fifth year of Joram the son of Ahab king of Israel, Jehoshaphat being then king of Judah, Jehoram the son of Jehoshaphat king of Judah began to reign.
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Some suggested that they were two different types of fathers. One being a father by law and the other being the biological father.

But then there is also the two Ahaziah view, as well.
 
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I have not yet explored all these explanations indepth by prayer and comparing Scripture with Scripture yet. See, that's the difference between the person who believes in a perfect Word and wants to study to show himself approved unto God versus the guy who doesn't.
 
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And they guy who doesn't is?
 
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Jason0047 said:
Some suggested that they were two different types of fathers. One being a father by law and the other being the biological father.

But then there is also the two Ahaziah view, as well.
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There's actually three Ahazaih's in 2 Kings. The other was the son of Joram or Jehoram I can't remember which right now but he had a son named Ahaziah also.
 
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Kerry said:
And they guy who doesn't is?
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The guy who doesn't is the guy who just sees errors in God's Word rather than trusting and asking God to help them understand it; Rather than not giving up in seeking the Scriptures until is confirmed by the Word and tbeir spirit.
 
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Kerry said:
What does that have to do with the price of eggs? Who cares if their is a third or fourth or fifth view. I see only one view just as the KJ does and it's Christ and Him crucified.
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Oh good, then you can just tear out the rest of the pages in your Bible. Do realize the volume of the book speaks of Jesus Christ? That's why it is so important to know. Also, the moment you cast doubt on any part of the Scriptures as not being true, you are casting doubt on Jesus Christ's death, burial, and resurrection.
 
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KJV1611 said:
There's actually three Ahazaih's in 2 Kings. The other was the son of Joram or Jehoram I can't remember which right now but he had a son named Ahaziah also.
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Perhaps. I will have to look into it.
 
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Jason0047 said:
The guy who doesn't is the guy who just sees errors in God's Word rather than trusting and asking God to help them understand it; Rather than not giving up in seeking the Scriptures until is confirmed by the Word and tbeir spirit.
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Yep, I know that guy also, he tried to take the new testament and inject it into the old testament. Talk about seeing errors, that guy is beyond words he now moves entire chapters. That's ok, I have done it also. It is a part of spending 20+ years studying the bible days at the time. God's word is pure, the errors are there to bring man to awareness of his message. It is by language that you fall and I am always right there to pick you up and set you right back where you have always been.
 
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