My fiance lives in Brazil and I know full well about the differences in language. There are certain words that do not translate from one language to another. However, with God, all things are possible. He would know which words were best so that nothing was lost. Also, God was the One who set into motion all the different languages. I am sure He would have no problem in preserving His Word from one language to the next. In other words, I believe nothing was lost in God's Word as it was translated thru His chosen languages thru out time.
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Has nothing to do with what I said. Scripture is inspired, not WRITTEN by God.
Jesus is the Word of God, the bible is the inspired word of God. I like that you call by information faulty but won't say why. Erasmus created the TR. Period.
There is no italic bible on wikipedia.
Saying you will ignore all evidence to believe in an unsubstantiated point is insanity.
Jesus is the Word of God, the bible is the inspired word of God. I like that you call by information faulty but won't say why. Erasmus created the TR. Period.
There is no italic bible on wikipedia.
Saying you will ignore all evidence to believe in an unsubstantiated point is insanity.
Die for? I do not copy any thing from the bible and make it mine. I have no problems in understanding. I never plan on reading any part of any bible to any child. I was not raised that way and neither are MY CHILDREN, do you even have children? I was absolutely FREE growing up to choose whatever religion suited me best as an individual without outside influences. Maybe that is your problem, you have had so much push on you and now you cannot tell up from down. You want to message me and take a shot out of the spot light on what exactly the kingdom of god is? OUR? What? You think what? God has provided his word, children or adults don't need your word however.
No, not true, my friend.
1 Thessalonians 2:13
"For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe."
Yes. The Bible is the divinely inspired words of God.
Men spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost and then it was written down (Which was sometimes done by a scribe).
As I said. Don't care about History unless it lines up with God's Word. And your position is not found in the Scriptures. "The KJV-Only" or the "one Word of God preserved for all generations" position does exist in the Scriptures.
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Are we talking Historical Science (Evidence) or Observational Science (Evidence)? There is a difference.
Check out this short animated Christian video to see where I am coming from.
[video=youtube;LY1-NPYQSiQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY1-NPYQSiQ[/video]
1 Thessalonians 2:13
"For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe."
Yes. The Bible is the divinely inspired words of God.
Men spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost and then it was written down (Which was sometimes done by a scribe).
As I said. Don't care about History unless it lines up with God's Word. And your position is not found in the Scriptures. "The KJV-Only" or the "one Word of God preserved for all generations" position does exist in the Scriptures.
Vetus Latina - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Are we talking Historical Science (Evidence) or Observational Science (Evidence)? There is a difference.
Check out this short animated Christian video to see where I am coming from.
[video=youtube;LY1-NPYQSiQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY1-NPYQSiQ[/video]
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Yes, scripture is the word of God. It was not written by God, it is inspired by God.
Men spoke and scribes wrote (OT) what was being inspired by God.
Not it doesn't. You don't believe anything unless it lines up with your man-made traditions, and that is the problem.
I already pointed out the Old Latin bibles before you did - which were the creation of the Catholic Church. There was no static/italic Latin bible.
The two are basically the same.
youtube videos about stuff are generally stupid.
Men spoke and scribes wrote (OT) what was being inspired by God.
Not it doesn't. You don't believe anything unless it lines up with your man-made traditions, and that is the problem.
I already pointed out the Old Latin bibles before you did - which were the creation of the Catholic Church. There was no static/italic Latin bible.
The two are basically the same.
youtube videos about stuff are generally stupid.
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Your youtube video is stupid and quite a exercise of rhetoric.
We can observe what is going in space, that is the past, by measurable, repeatable evidence. He argues that because the bible was valid on somethings that are considered fact by historical things, it is equal to observable things on all things it claims.
BZZT - wrong. All things in the bible are not observable science, his made up term. Some things in the bible are historical science, which he tries to extend to be proof that all things claimed within are equal to observable repeatable science.
We can observe what is going in space, that is the past, by measurable, repeatable evidence. He argues that because the bible was valid on somethings that are considered fact by historical things, it is equal to observable things on all things it claims.
BZZT - wrong. All things in the bible are not observable science, his made up term. Some things in the bible are historical science, which he tries to extend to be proof that all things claimed within are equal to observable repeatable science.
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king james only is rediculous theology
before the KJV was the GENEVA Bible
was that the word of God?
of course!
King james couldn't handle it, he told his king james men to make another bible that supported his theology
would you like to read the LETTER he wrote saying that?
that is the whole reason behind it!
silly kjv only
ten years before the KJV was invented you are saying there WAS NOT A WORD OF GOD?
Your viewpoint is silly and rediculous!
the SAME greek payrus still existed that the geneva used
and the SAME ORIGINAL GREEK was used to make the KJV version!
yet they are different
KJV definitely watered down the sabbath, ADDED EVER BURNING HELL and TOOK OUT kneeling down
go get the geneva and the KJV
same originals
very different translations
explain that?
then read king james letter
where he tells his henchmen
that they need a BETTER TRANSLATION THAT SUPPORTS THEIR DOCTRINES
now
its obious
wake up
translations lean one way or another
but if you LOOK UP THE GREEK then you have the TRUTH
get it?
and the geneva Bible esisted!
where was the word of Gode!
now listen here
king james only are FANATICS
they have made a mans MODIFIED WATERED DOWN BIBLE with ADDED GREEK MYTHOLOGY their idol
the WORD OF GOD is the correct Bible and the priginal GREEK is inerrant
the translated versions all have glitches
wake up you guys
the words behind the translations are Gods word
JUST LOOK THEM UP
before the KJV was the GENEVA Bible
was that the word of God?
of course!
King james couldn't handle it, he told his king james men to make another bible that supported his theology
would you like to read the LETTER he wrote saying that?
that is the whole reason behind it!
silly kjv only
ten years before the KJV was invented you are saying there WAS NOT A WORD OF GOD?
Your viewpoint is silly and rediculous!
the SAME greek payrus still existed that the geneva used
and the SAME ORIGINAL GREEK was used to make the KJV version!
yet they are different
KJV definitely watered down the sabbath, ADDED EVER BURNING HELL and TOOK OUT kneeling down
go get the geneva and the KJV
same originals
very different translations
explain that?
then read king james letter
where he tells his henchmen
that they need a BETTER TRANSLATION THAT SUPPORTS THEIR DOCTRINES
now
its obious
wake up
translations lean one way or another
but if you LOOK UP THE GREEK then you have the TRUTH
get it?
and the geneva Bible esisted!
where was the word of Gode!
now listen here
king james only are FANATICS
they have made a mans MODIFIED WATERED DOWN BIBLE with ADDED GREEK MYTHOLOGY their idol
the WORD OF GOD is the correct Bible and the priginal GREEK is inerrant
the translated versions all have glitches
wake up you guys
the words behind the translations are Gods word
JUST LOOK THEM UP
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No, read 1 Thessalonians 2:13 again. Did they receive the Word of God as the words of men or as the words of God? You say that the Bible is not the words of God. But this would be a direct violation of 1 Thessalonians 2:13.
Paul had a scribe at one point.
No, my friend. I believe the Word of God first. Even above man made history.
Paul had a scribe at one point.
No, my friend. I believe the Word of God first. Even above man made history.
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So are you telling him to hit the buzzer button to say he is wrong or what is going on here? The proof in the pudding is LAST. So you are telling us that when a scribe translates the bible from one language to another they just need to know those two languages only because that is how the bible is translated? A guy knows English and knows Hebrew means he can simply take the ancient text and translate it to English. You must do this quite often. That is awesome, can you teach us that while you are teaching us to understand the bible?
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king james takes in a clear DIVORCE and CHANGES IT TO PUT AWAY
divorce was CHANGED to PUT AWAY
it isnot WRONG get it?
Put away is not WRONG
king james is not WRONG
it is just UNCLEAR
get it?
when someone reads PUT AWAY they can argue they DIED!
it is a lawyer thing
to get king james off the hook
get it?
divorce was CHANGED to PUT AWAY
it isnot WRONG get it?
Put away is not WRONG
king james is not WRONG
it is just UNCLEAR
get it?
when someone reads PUT AWAY they can argue they DIED!
it is a lawyer thing
to get king james off the hook
get it?
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They received it as the word of God, a revelation, not as the words of God, as if God wrote them down. Try again.
People wrote for Paul, even after he died.
Then you would not be promoting man-made traditions.
Calling the use of youtube videos are not dodges. You'll see that because it was short I adressed it anyways.
People wrote for Paul, even after he died.
Then you would not be promoting man-made traditions.
Calling the use of youtube videos are not dodges. You'll see that because it was short I adressed it anyways.
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im not saying the king james is WRONG
I am saying they PURPOSEFULLY OBFUSCATED IT and you can prove it
go look up PUT AWAY in every king james event
(use e sword)
search for PUT AWAY
then click on the strongs
know what it says?
DIVORCE! YES! DIVORCE!
it isnt WRONG it is CHANGED so that WEASELS CAN NOW ARGUE ABOUT IT!!!
get it?
it was nnot WRONG it was CHANGED so that LAWYERS CAN NOW ARGUE ABOUT IT
oh, that means they DIED
no it doesnt
it means DIVORCE
get it?
cmon guys
stop being so stubborn
king james was a weasel.
I am saying they PURPOSEFULLY OBFUSCATED IT and you can prove it
go look up PUT AWAY in every king james event
(use e sword)
search for PUT AWAY
then click on the strongs
know what it says?
DIVORCE! YES! DIVORCE!
it isnt WRONG it is CHANGED so that WEASELS CAN NOW ARGUE ABOUT IT!!!
get it?
it was nnot WRONG it was CHANGED so that LAWYERS CAN NOW ARGUE ABOUT IT
oh, that means they DIED
no it doesnt
it means DIVORCE
get it?
cmon guys
stop being so stubborn
king james was a weasel.
It doesn't. If you look at the contour of Paul's thought in Romans 8, it is that those who are in Christ are by definition those who walk according to the Spirit. It's not a question of walking the Spirit so as to be in Christ. You can't extricate one from the other.
But I'm not hear to argue OSAS with you. There's simply no point. My initial point is simply this - the addition to verse 1 is not ion the earliest manuscripts. Even if there was a giant conspiracy, and the words have been deleted instead of added, as you claim, it makes minimal difference to the point Paul makes in Romans 8, because:
And
But I'm not hear to argue OSAS with you. There's simply no point. My initial point is simply this - the addition to verse 1 is not ion the earliest manuscripts. Even if there was a giant conspiracy, and the words have been deleted instead of added, as you claim, it makes minimal difference to the point Paul makes in Romans 8, because:
And
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the did SMAE THING with verses on
eternal security
ETERNAL BURNING HELL (which does not exist in the greek)
and PREDESTINATION
yes go look it up
they changed the words so they can be argued
other versions you cant support those doctrines
oh yes
the SABBATH
king james TOOK OUT THE WORD SABBATH in new testament 83 times!
yes they did
why
cause they KEEP SUNDAY
you want me to show you?
just CLICK ON IT!
it says SABBATH
look up WEEK and click
every WEEK is really SEVENTH DAY SABBATH DAY 1 or seventh day sabbath day or some dirivitive but they changed it 85 times to something else
in fact them changed the SABBATH SEVENTH into 12 other words but not SABBATH
why?
caus they wanted to make it unclear
simple
wake up
it is true
just click on the GREEK and you have the inerrant work fo God
but on topics of
HELL
ETERNAL SECURITY (no such thing)
PREDESTINATION (no such thing)
and KNEELING IN PRAYER
those have all been altered by command of king james
just look them up
wake up
before the king james came along
the word of God still eisted
and the king james is STILL the word of GOD!
inerrant!
you just have to dig pas the dirt to find it now.
thanks a lot king!
eternal security
ETERNAL BURNING HELL (which does not exist in the greek)
and PREDESTINATION
yes go look it up
they changed the words so they can be argued
other versions you cant support those doctrines
oh yes
the SABBATH
king james TOOK OUT THE WORD SABBATH in new testament 83 times!
yes they did
why
cause they KEEP SUNDAY
you want me to show you?
just CLICK ON IT!
it says SABBATH
look up WEEK and click
every WEEK is really SEVENTH DAY SABBATH DAY 1 or seventh day sabbath day or some dirivitive but they changed it 85 times to something else
in fact them changed the SABBATH SEVENTH into 12 other words but not SABBATH
why?
caus they wanted to make it unclear
simple
wake up
it is true
just click on the GREEK and you have the inerrant work fo God
but on topics of
HELL
ETERNAL SECURITY (no such thing)
PREDESTINATION (no such thing)
and KNEELING IN PRAYER
those have all been altered by command of king james
just look them up
wake up
before the king james came along
the word of God still eisted
and the king james is STILL the word of GOD!
inerrant!
you just have to dig pas the dirt to find it now.
thanks a lot king!