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Cover---> to hide or cover up....Job used the language..to sew up in a bag.....hope that helps...

Well it is the word covers that throws me off understanding. I'll have to look at strongs or another translation.[/QUOTE]
 

breno785au

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Cover---> to hide or cover up....Job used the language..to sew up in a bag.....hope that helps...


Well it is the word covers that throws me off understanding. I'll have to look at strongs or another translation.
[/QUOTE]
So in other words it overlooks?

I read that verse this morning and checked other translations, they all say cover! Haha
BUT once again AMP caught my attention and brother, you left out a key part of that verse, the beginning :)
Above all things have intense and unfailing love for one another, for love covers a multitude of sins [forgives and disregards the offenses of others].
1 Peter 4:8 AMP

Which it also cross referenced to Proverbs 10:12!
Hatred stirs up contentions, but love covers all transgressions.
Proverbs 10:12 AMP

IM EXCITED! Hahaha
 

oldthennew

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oh yeah,

it's always exciting when we can embrace and accept our Father's Love in all
of its heavenly splendors....

you ROCK, breno!
 

Marian29

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As Paul said, if we understood all things, and had the greatest faith but had not love, we are nothing. Such a sobering and profound truth to behold. Let's forget doctrines, and Sabbaths and meats and eschatologies and this ism and that movement, what this preacher is doing and what that person has said and let's focus on highest goal for a moment, love. Not that these things aren't important, they all have a varying degree of importance but the most important is love.

I often ponder what true love is, what it looks like day to day, when something is loving, and when something is not. Some much more obvious than others.

I'd like to start with probably my favourite verse in the bible, no verse has effected me more than this one from when I first read it. I shall post the AMP version because I really like how it adds depth to the key words in the scripture.

Please, post up other scriptures that you love about love and what God has shared with you over your walk about what love is and how to love others with His love.

Love endures long and is patient and kind; love never is envious nor boils over with jealousy, is not boastful or vainglorious, does not display itself haughtily. It is not conceited (arrogant and inflated with pride); it is not rude (unmannerly) and does not act unbecomingly. Love (God's love in us) does not insist on its own rights or its own way, for it is not self-seeking; it is not touchy or fretful or resentful; it takes no account of the evil done to it [it pays no attention to a suffered wrong]. It does not rejoice at injustice and unrighteousness, but rejoices when right and truth prevail. Love bears up under anything and everything that comes, is ever ready to believe the best of every person, its hopes are fadeless under all circumstances, and it endures everything [without weakening]. Love never fails [never fades out or becomes obsolete or comes to an end].
1 Corinthians 13:4-8A AMP
Love is simple and in the same time so complex. Love transforms. God can and shows His love in such a great way, for us, humans, sinners, a love we couldn't imagine to deserve. After you meet Jesus and His love, and His forgiveness, you enjoy it in a not describable way. But then, you see there is no love in your own home, and that's sad. You would like to see everyone loving everyone, specially the people from your own home. And that's not how it works in this world. So you pray.

I like and feel a lot of love through the books of the apostle John specially. He is called 'the apostle of love', by the way.
 

Marian29

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"Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. {is born: Gr. has been born}"


1 John 4:4-7
 
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I don't think you quite understand my intention. When I said, forget doctrine etc. I meant for this thread, as a topic to be discussed and studied and share about. There seems to be a lot said about a multitude of other things but not much about love, which is the highest. Doctrine is important, understanding Gods Word is important as I previously mentioned but for sake of having one thread dedicated to love and what love is. You've described one aspect of it yourself, warning others. But as you may have noticed, warning can get taken too far, or can be given in the wrong spirit.

Yes, if you boil the doctrine of the bible down to one word- it would be love, and all that we do and say should be done and said in love. I guess what I was trying to get across is if we only do the warm and fuzzy love, and avoid the harsh warning love, then we are not really loving. Because what is going to be more important to that person in the next life- that they had a warm and fuzzy feeling in this life, or that they get to go to heaven and escape eternal torture? I believe in every aspect of love. I like to warm people's hearts, and do, but my biggest love is to save their souls. I know some people think they have the truth and try to cram it down people's throats. And I hope and pray that I never come across that way. But I love God, so I am going to try to save more souls for Him because I care about them too, and there will be more people to love in heaven for eternity.
 

Ella85

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1 John 4:18

18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

:)
 

breno785au

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This morning I sat down with 1 Cor 13 again and I felt to start focusing on each characteristic one-by-one rather than trying to read the whole passage in one go, as there is a lot to take in at one time. So I read 'Love is patient', as I reflected on that a thought came to me, 'Love is patient with people'. I was a bit taken back by that, I guess because sub consciously when I think of patience, it's more circumstantial like waiting in a line etc.
I decided to look up Strongs on the word patient for that passage, for those who are interested:

3114 Makrothumeo (makros -long thumos - tempered) and the summary as follows -
1. To be of a long spirit and not lose heart.
2. To persevere patiently and bravely in enduring misfortunes and troubles.
3. To be patient in bearing the offenses and injuries of others and to be mild and slow in avenging.
4. To be longsuffering, slow to anger, slow to punish.
5. Long tempered.

My goodness, i've been dwelling on that all day, as we can see it means to be both patient in circumstance and with people! Patient with people being the greater weakness for me.

And the greatest example of being patient I thought of in all this is here:

Mark 14:53-65
53And they led Jesus to the high priest. And all the chief priests and the elders and the scribes came together. 54And Peter had followed him at a distance, right into the courtyard of the high priest. And he was sitting with the guards and warming himself at the fire. 55Now the chief priests and the whole council[SUP]f[/SUP] were seeking testimony against Jesus to put him to death, but they found none. 56For many bore false witness against him, but their testimony did not agree. 57And some stood up and bore false witness against him, saying, 58“We heard him say, ‘I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and in three days I will build another, not made with hands.’” 59Yet even about this their testimony did not agree. 60And the high priest stood up in the midst and asked Jesus, “Have you no answer to make? What is it that these men testify against you?”[SUP]g[/SUP] 61But he remained silent and made no answer. Again the high priest asked him, “Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?” 62And Jesus said, “I am, and you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.” 63And the high priest tore his garments and said, “What further witnesses do we need? 64You have heard his blasphemy. What is your decision?” And they all condemned him as deserving death. 65And some began to spit on him and to cover his face and to strike him, saying to him, “Prophesy!” And the guards received him with blows.
 

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yes Breno, He is so far removed from our human understanding that we sometimes grow weary....
but, His precious Spirit will never fail to life us up to whatever standard or challenge that comes
before us..amen....IF we truly LOVE Him above all else.....................
the kingdom of God is like a man seeking treasure. And when he finds it in a field he goes and sells all he has and buys that field.
 

Grandpa

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1 John 4:10-11
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

Some people mistake their idea of love for the same love that God has and is. The truth is that our love often times contains some amount of selfishness in it. A sow and reap kind of idea. We must think we will get something out of it.

God is not like that. He gives His Grace to the ungodly and the sinner. His Grace rains on the just and the un-just alike. Thankfully, otherwise we would all be lost.

God is the Provider, the Giver of all Good Gifts. Without God, we don't know what love is.


Love is Pain. Its easier to not love than feel the pain. But then, you are not alive inside if you don't love. So we try the tightrope act, loving when we think we won't get hurt too much. Its hard to get into the boxing ring of life and try to love instead of protecting yourself at all times. But its what a Christian is called to do.
 
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Romans 8:38-39

For I am persuaded that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.


You can run but ya can't hide.
 
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Love is the greatest thing we can possess,which the Bible says love works no ill towards their neighbor,therefore love is the fulfilling of the law,and the 2 greatest laws are love God,and love people.

Out of faith,hope,and charity,which is love in action,love is the greatest asset,and will be the only thing that will go on forever,for faith,and hope,are only needed on this earth,and will not be needed in heaven.

I was saying the other day to my friend,that some animals that are born,being abandoned,might live,and make it,but a human baby is so vulnerable,and dependent on someone else,that they cannot make it if they are abandoned,for they could not fend for them self.

Is it to teach us to love and care for a human,that cannot take care of itself,for God could of caused the baby to mature enough to be able to walk right off the bat,and to have more intelligence,than what they have when born.
 

breno785au

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Father, if there is anything that we are to learn today, if there is anything that you are to teach me and all of us, if there is anything that we are going to pursue, I pray that it be love.
Teach me, teach us to love as you love. For if we don't love, we are nothing. Thank you that it is your will that we love and who better teach us than you, the one who is love.
 

breno785au

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Mat 5:43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’
Mat 5:44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
Mat 5:45 so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
Mat 5:46 For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?
Mat 5:47 And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same?
 

breno785au

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I did a quick look at the word enemy as the enemy of Jesus' time was apparent, Roman occupation.

I found it can mean:

Passively odious (extremely unpleasant, repulsive)
Actively hostile
someone looking to obstruct or harm you
 

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Ephesians 6:12: "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms."
 

Magenta

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1 John 4:18

18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

:)


1 John 4:18 :)
 

Magenta

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Love endures long and is patient and kind; love never is envious nor boils over with jealousy, is not boastful or vainglorious, does not display itself haughtily. It is not conceited (arrogant and inflated with pride); it is not rude (unmannerly) and does not act unbecomingly. Love (God's love in us) does not insist on its own rights or its own way, for it is not self-seeking; it is not touchy or fretful or resentful; it takes no account of the evil done to it [it pays no attention to a suffered wrong]. It does not rejoice at injustice and unrighteousness, but rejoices when right and truth prevail. Love bears up under anything and everything that comes, is ever ready to believe the best of every person, its hopes are fadeless under all circumstances, and it endures everything [without weakening]. Love never fails [never fades out or becomes obsolete or comes to an end].
1 Corinthians 13:4-8A AMP
 

pottersclay

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As Paul said, if we understood all things, and had the greatest faith but had not love, we are nothing. Such a sobering and profound truth to behold. Let's forget doctrines, and Sabbaths and meats and eschatologies and this ism and that movement, what this preacher is doing and what that person has said and let's focus on highest goal for a moment, love. Not that these things aren't important, they all have a varying degree of importance but the most important is love.

I often ponder what true love is, what it looks like day to day, when something is loving, and when something is not. Some much more obvious than others.

I'd like to start with probably my favourite verse in the bible, no verse has effected me more than this one from when I first read it. I shall post the AMP version because I really like how it adds depth to the key words in the scripture.

Please, post up other scriptures that you love about love and what God has shared with you over your walk about what love is and how to love others with His love.

Love endures long and is patient and kind; love never is envious nor boils over with jealousy, is not boastful or vainglorious, does not display itself haughtily. It is not conceited (arrogant and inflated with pride); it is not rude (unmannerly) and does not act unbecomingly. Love (God's love in us) does not insist on its own rights or its own way, for it is not self-seeking; it is not touchy or fretful or resentful; it takes no account of the evil done to it [it pays no attention to a suffered wrong]. It does not rejoice at injustice and unrighteousness, but rejoices when right and truth prevail. Love bears up under anything and everything that comes, is ever ready to believe the best of every person, its hopes are fadeless under all circumstances, and it endures everything [without weakening]. Love never fails [never fades out or becomes obsolete or comes to an end].
1 Corinthians 13:4-8A AMP
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