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Where is that scripture? Why assume that this was the first time Noah learned this?
Dos everything have 2 b written down is there no faith?Remember god is the shepherd not the [staff is bible] god reveals secrets...part of the reason we have the staff and not the shepherd is because of the faith thing.
 
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Dos everything have 2 b written down is there no faith?Remember god is the shepherd not the [staff is bible] god reveals secrets...part of the reason we have the staff and not the shepherd is because of the faith thing.
He is drawing on straws because he has nothing

He does not understand what sin is, Nor does he understand what the law is.

Anything not done out of love is sin

I can obey a command of God. Yet do it not out of love, When I do this, I am in sin.

Thats why gentiles, who did not have the law. Could by practice be obedient, Because love is what fulfills the law. All mankind are capable of love. Hence all mankind can be obedient.

The issue is living up t Gods standard All have sinned and fall short

The law was given to PROVE to us we have fallen short and lead is to christ.

lawyers do not like this, They think the law helps us stop sinning and live righteous, Thats not the purpose of the law. I can stop sinning and live according to the letter and still be a sinner. And if the law is my ONLY guide as to what sin is, I will sin more. And not even know it, Because I have no clue what sin is

Breaking the law is sin, But thats not the ONY means of sinning
 
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s I said, Your like every lawyer before you

You ask questions thinking they support your view. And when your questioned on it. You just get mad

If noah did not have the law and he was not told cursed is the one who does not obey every word. Your question is basically meaningless.

Your days of playing games are almost through my friend.. You will go the way of all who came before you who are no longer here. You will hurt your case so much you have nothing left.

Or continue to be exposed for who you are
Nobody is mad... you not answering questions about your claims just shows that the things you are coming up with aren't rooted in scripture. You are exposed.
 
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Dos everything have 2 b written down is there no faith?Remember god is the shepherd not the [staff is bible] god reveals secrets...part of the reason we have the staff and not the shepherd is because of the faith thing.
Yes, it has to be written down. Otherwise, why is your faith any more valuable than the next persons faith that disagrees with you?
 
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Nobody is mad... you not answering questions about your claims just shows that the things you are coming up with aren't rooted in scripture. You are exposed.
I answered my question

All I have do do is prove that not everyone before the law will make it to heaven. And I have proven my point

You don;t like that. Thats no my issue, thats on you.
 
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Yes, it has to be written down. Otherwise, why is your faith any more valuable than the next persons faith that disagrees with you?
No, it does not have to be written down.

Not everyone before the law will make it to heaven. Its a known fact. The Bible does not have to say, Not everyone BeFOR ethe law will make it to heaven for it to be true
 
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I answered my question

All I have do do is prove that not everyone before the law will make it to heaven. And I have proven my point

You don;t like that. Thats no my issue, thats on you.
No you didn't... here is what I asked in case you forgot already...

How did Noah know what an unclean animal was? Noah was a preacher... what did he preach?
 
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No, it does not have to be written down.

Not everyone before the law will make it to heaven. Its a known fact. The Bible does not have to say, Not everyone BeFOR ethe law will make it to heaven for it to be true
What is "before the law"??? That is the point. There is no such time.
 
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No you didn't... here is what I asked in case you forgot already...

How did Noah know what an unclean animal was? Noah was a preacher... what did he preach?
The context of the question is condemnation by the law

The law was not given to moses. Hence your question is invalid. I refuse to answer invalid questions that go off topic. Your trying to manipulate the conversation. I refuse to be a pawn.

Again I ask. Did Noah have the law. Was he told cursed is the one who does not bey.

You can answer yes. or no. That is the topic.

Unclean animals have nothing to do with The commands of God written on stone and the curse which comes from disobeying just one of those commands.
 
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What is "before the law"??? That is the point. There is no such time.
Moses was given the law. On mt sinai

Before that is before the law

Come on man, Stop acting like you dont know what people are talking about. Your making yourself look bad
 
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Yes, it has to be written down. Otherwise, why is your faith any more valuable than the next persons faith that disagrees with you?
MalikB greater then the staff < god is more then a book.Jesus said in that book u think u have life but u will not listen 2 me he was talking 2 certain people that had more faith in their interpertation their rationalition then god.Who is the living word
 
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Are you going to start answering questions with questions too?
[not all bibles r the same] what would be more effectual then answering a question with a question?Become the bible. ask god how 2 become gods lips...your never go broke buy becoming a prophet
 
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The context of the question is condemnation by the law

The law was not given to moses. Hence your question is invalid. I refuse to answer invalid questions that go off topic. Your trying to manipulate the conversation. I refuse to be a pawn.

Again I ask. Did Noah have the law. Was he told cursed is the one who does not bey.

You can answer yes. or no. That is the topic.

Unclean animals have nothing to do with The commands of God written on stone and the curse which comes from disobeying just one of those commands.
My questions were exactly on topic... Im srry if you feel like a "pawn" for answering those questions, but I could say the same thing about your questions. I'm not going to play the game where you ignore my questions and I answer yours because you believe it is being a "pawn".

You said that there was no law at the time of the flood.... but Noah had some info he preached... he knew of unclean animals somehow... So where is the evidence that there was no law before the flood?
 
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[not all bibles r the same] what would be more effectual then answering a question with a question?Become the bible. ask god how 2 become gods lips...your never go broke buy becoming a prophet
Im not sure what you are getting at with this
 
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MalikB greater then the staff < god is more then a book.Jesus said in that book u think u have life but u will not listen 2 me he was talking 2 certain people that had more faith in their interpertation their rationalition then god.Who is the living word
I definitely agree that God is bigger than any book.... however, many people disagree that all say they believe in and listen to the same God.... So the scriptures have the final say.
 
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Moses was given the law. On mt sinai

Before that is before the law

Come on man, Stop acting like you dont know what people are talking about. Your making yourself look bad

"Your making yourself look bad" is a childish remark.... and its "you're".

Moses being given law does not mean that law did not exist before moses.... I have defined "law" many times since I have been posting.


I have already shown in scripture the law existing before Moses:


Genesis 26:5

5 I’m going to do this because Abraham did what I told him to do. He kept my instructions, commands, statutes, and laws.

This is clearly before Moses.
 

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DavidTree said: "anyone that refuses OR works on His Sabbath shall never see LIFE"

That tells me plenty.
He who has the Son has the life. I was born again before I knew that there was such thing as a sabbath. How can anyone be unborn again? How can eternal life die? I worked on weekends before I was saved. By your definition, I am condemned to hell forever. Who has obeyed the sabbath perfectly? If you get out of bed, it's work. If you brush your teeth, shower............. need I go on? Your interpretation is unscriptural. You have made the common mistake of ignoring context and not looking at the whole counsel of God. I don't know why people love to put themselves and others under the law. Such people need to be real careful that they are not trampling the blood of Christ underfoot. If we are saved by keeping the law, well, no one does that, except Lord Jesus. Your own words will be your judge. I would not like to be in your shoes on judgement day.